'26 Florida Transfer EDGE Brien Taylor

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TrippieRedd said:
Yeah I said this earlier. The other DT opposite of Gilliam was Durant at 290. Everyone was begggin for 300+ dudes.


I guess they kept looking OSU’s 2024 depth chart.
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It's less about a specific body composition and more about guys who can anchor at the point of attack with good leverage. That was not an overall strength of the defensive tackle group last season, hence the push to retool that group. Theoretically, if the new S&C staff is able to really help those guys with their lower body strength and the guys take to the coaching, it can be improved. You don't need to be 6-5, 330 to hold up at the line of scrimmage. You need leverage and a strong base.

Yeah, I definitely want another DT, and someone with experience and a track record as a run stuffer would be nice, but hunting for quality DTs this portal season was like going to the house that bought one bag of Tootsie mix on Halloween. There's stuff in there, but you just have to settle for what you can get.
 
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Returning DL have months to bulk up if that’s what coaches want. Some will naturally as they won’t be teenagers anymore.
What will we ask them to do. What we asked them to do last year, which looked like to absorb blocks for lbs and safeties to make plays, didn’t work.
 
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swchandler1988 said:
Anyone worrying about us not getting a 330lb DT, here Penn States depth chart from 2025
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Looks like instead of saying “he likes bigger lineman” the claim should have been “he likes bigger LEOs or weak side DEs” whatever he calls them in his system.

We would often play with more of 3 DT like bodies and then a 220-240 Leo. Now it looks more like a traditional 4 man front in terms of those body types
 
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OrangeFluff said:
It's less about a specific body composition and more about guys who can anchor at the point of attack with good leverage. That was not an overall strength of the defensive tackle group last season, hence the push to retool that group. Theoretically, if the new S&C staff is able to really help those guys with their lower body strength and the guys take to the coaching, it can be improved. You don't need to be 6-5, 330 to hold up at the line of scrimmage. You need leverage and a strong base.

Yeah, I definitely want another DT, and someone with experience and a track record as a run stuffer would be nice, but hunting for quality DTs this portal season was like going to the house that bought one bag of Tootsie mix on Halloween. There's stuff in there, but you just have to settle for what you can get.
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"and more about guys who can anchor at the point of attack with good leverage."

YES. This. Thank you for bringing discussion to this board backed by actual understanding of modern football.
 
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Jackcrevol said:
many saying he wont qualify. that's torches
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Less an issue of qualifying and more an issue of eligibility because he played two years of JUCO and two for Florida. He would need a waiver, but there's no injury history or redshirt that makes his path to eligibility clear, so he's in the same boat as any of the guys attached to the Pavia suit: hoping for an injunction or ruling that leads to another year of blanket eligibility. Although that could get more interesting if the NCAA does adopt the redshirt of you play in nine games or fewer. That would potentially grant a lot of guys additional eligibility if it applies retroactively.
 
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OrangeFluff said:
Less an issue of qualifying and more an issue of eligibility because he played two years of JUCO and two for Florida. He would need a waiver, but there's no injury history or redshirt that makes his path to eligibility clear, so he's in the same boat as any of the guys attached to the Pavia suit: hoping for an injunction or ruling that leads to another year of blanket eligibility. Although that could get more interesting if the NCAA does adopt the redshirt of you play in nine games or fewer. That would potentially grant a lot of guys additional eligibility if it applies retroactively.
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So we could possibly end up with this guy and Joey.
 
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Smokymtnbullet said:
So we could possibly end up with this guy and Joey.
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If it boiled down to the judge's decision, potentially. I don't know if I'd call that a good bet though. Depending on the wording and if it applies retroactively, Taylor has more hope regarding the redshirt rule change. He never played nine games in a season in JUCO, so that could be an avenue toward eligibility depending on what the NCAA does and when. It's still a huge gamble either way.
 
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I thought it was established a JUCO year didnt count. Joey and Diegos issue is they still played 4 years of D1+JUCO. This issue is so clear and easy. Great job judges/NCAA
 
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VolInDayton said:
I thought it was established a JUCO year didnt count. Joey and Diegos issue is they still played 4 years of D1+JUCO. This issue is so clear and easy. Great job judges/NCAA
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Not settled, no. When Pavia was granted an emergency injunction, the NCAA offered a one year blanket exemption for all JUCOs rather than battling each case individually with a flurry of lawsuits. An actual ruling has yet to occur, and the one year exemption has passed, thus the general uncertainty.

It sounds like the hearing on an additional injunction is set for February 10th, which would impact Aguilar and the others attached to the suit. It's presumed that if an additional injunction were to be granted, the NCAA would once again offer up a one year exemption, although at this point guys might find landing spots difficult based on timing. Still a messy situation and murky path to eligibility for these athletes.
 
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OrangeFluff said:
It's less about a specific body composition and more about guys who can anchor at the point of attack with good leverage. That was not an overall strength of the defensive tackle group last season, hence the push to retool that group. Theoretically, if the new S&C staff is able to really help those guys with their lower body strength and the guys take to the coaching, it can be improved. You don't need to be 6-5, 330 to hold up at the line of scrimmage. You need leverage and a strong base.

Yeah, I definitely want another DT, and someone with experience and a track record as a run stuffer would be nice, but hunting for quality DTs this portal season was like going to the house that bought one bag of Tootsie mix on Halloween. There's stuff in there, but you just have to settle for what you can get.
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Unless they are Aaron Donald, we need some NTs in the 320 range. That extra weight helps. 290lb(at best) Hobbs ain't stopping the run. Losing Omari Thomas and Elijah Simmons hurt. Sure you don't have to be that big but it sure does help.
 
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Vol865 said:
Unless they are Aaron Donald, we need some NTs in the 320 range. That extra weight helps. 290lb(at best) Hobbs ain't stopping the run. Losing Omari Thomas and Elijah Simmons hurt. Sure you don't have to be that big but it sure does help.
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It depends on the individual and their strength. Owen Williams was 6-2, 290 and an absolute nightmare to push around when he was at Tennessee, but also still retained the athleticism to make impacts against the pass. I'd have to find the clip again, but there is one last year of Xavier Gilliam refusing to get moved out of the hole by a double team causing the play to be blown up. Absolutely, bulk can help, but leverage, strength, and technique are arguably more important, especially with teams passing more and more each year. Having guys who are 290-310 and able to play well against both the run and pass is what you're really hoping for in a lot of instances.

However, we can want all the fat boys we want in the middle of the line, but there never was a ton of them in the portal and the pickings are getting slimmer. Best bet now is to either develop what you have or try to rush development of the two bigger bodied freshmen coming in (Nuk Simmons at 6-3, 320 and Dereon Albert at 6-1, 300). There's not enough guaranteed impact in the portal today. Maybe in the coming days after Indiana and Miami play tomorrow with their portal window.
 
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OrangeFluff said:
It's less about a specific body composition and more about guys who can anchor at the point of attack with good leverage. That was not an overall strength of the defensive tackle group last season, hence the push to retool that group. Theoretically, if the new S&C staff is able to really help those guys with their lower body strength and the guys take to the coaching, it can be improved. You don't need to be 6-5, 330 to hold up at the line of scrimmage. You need leverage and a strong base.

Yeah, I definitely want another DT, and someone with experience and a track record as a run stuffer would be nice, but hunting for quality DTs this portal season was like going to the house that bought one bag of Tootsie mix on Halloween. There's stuff in there, but you just have to settle for what you can get.
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The biggest thing about last year is the desire to rush the QB without maintaining their rush lanes thus leaving huge holes as they tried to get around their blockers. I am hopeful Knowles fixes this as well as edge containment, running QB's have killed us for years. I believe a lot of what we have seen on D is scheme problems more than talent but if Knowles is as good as advertised we will have the answer hopefully this year.
 
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INDEFENSE said:
The biggest thing about last year is the desire to rush the QB without maintaining their rush lanes thus leaving huge holes as they tried to get around their blockers. I am hopeful Knowles fixes this as well as edge containment, running QB's have killed us for years. I believe a lot of what we have seen on D is scheme problems more than talent but if Knowles is as good as advertised we will have the answer hopefully this year.
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I don't inherently disagree, but we did get pushed around at times, so I think there were some development issues. I think those were more physical than technique, and probably played into the S&C change.
 
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