Florida streak (split)

[VOL 4 Life 83]

You made an argument pointing our that less talented teams like Ole Miss and Texas A&M typically beat Alabama who has a talent advantage over everyone.

I made the point that 11 games is 11 games even if it's spread across 11 years. You only think Alabama gets upset consistently because it happens every year. However, you're overlooking the fact Alabama actually rarely gets upset. They typically go 11-1 every year in the regular. I compared that to the Florida streak to show you that the more talented team typically dominates weak competition.

Once every 12 tries someone gets lucky and beats Alabama. Our 12th try comes this year vs. Florida.

Lol. Two years ago florida got beat by south carolina and missouri, much less talented teams, teams that we were more talented than. The year before that they reeled off 7, YES 7 straight losses, again to the likes of missouri, georgia, VANDY (lol), south carolina, GEORGIA SOUTHERN (hahahaha), and Florida state.

So you mean to tell me the team that lost 7 straight games, 8 total, should have beaten us?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Once again, a ridiculous argument. You don't think our players hear the talk about the last 11 years? They don't read the news articles from ESPN, Fox sports, Yahoo, etc? You're kidding yourself it they don't. Not to mention the constant talk from fans "Hey guys, you gonna beat Florida this year?"

And yes, many of our best players ARE from Tennessee, a lot being looked at as leaders i.e. Hurd, Barnett, TKjr, etc.

Once again, you're kidding yourself if the weight of failure from the last 11 years doesn't play into their mindset.

Have you ever played competitive sports before?

You don't need to psyche out inferior competition. Remember when we had that 20 something year streak against both Kentucky and Vanderbilt. You think psyche had something to do with that? Or were our guys just so much better than them.

Florida didn't need our players getting psyched out to beat us the last 11 years. They've fielded much better teams with a lot better players as the NFL draft consistently shows.

The fact we haven't been lucky in getting a fluke victory sometime in the last 11 years doesn't make this is psyche issue. Its a luck issue. You're basically complaining we didn't get lucky.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

And I believe we were the better team each time. That's why we took 2 score leads into the 4th quarter each time....through 3/4 of the game each year, we had full control of the game, only to collapse and lose to two Florida teams that had little to no business beating us. I contend that it was much more mental and emotional than it was physical.

And south carolina has beaten florida 4 out of the last 5 years, and D4H still wants to blame talent on us losing 11 straight years....

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Have you ever played competitive sports before?

You don't need to psyche out inferior competition. Remember when we had that 20 something year streak against both Kentucky and Vanderbilt. You think psyche had something to do with that? Or were our guys just so much better than them.

Florida didn't need our players getting psyched out to beat us the last 11 years. They've fielded much better teams with a lot better players as the NFL draft consistently shows.

The fact we haven't been lucky in getting a fluke victory sometime in the last 11 years doesn't make this is psyche issue. Its a luck issue. You're basically complaining we didn't get lucky.

Please read my last two posts. Superior talent cannot explain the fact that florida has lost to the likes of south carolina (multiple times), missouri (multiple times), VANDY geez, and Georgia freaking southern. All MUCH, MUCH less talented teams than us. The fact that we can't win isn't a fluke or getting lucky or talent. It's more than that.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Lol. Two years ago florida got beat by south carolina and missouri, much less talented teams, teams that we were more talented than. The year before that they reeled off 7, YES 7 straight losses, again to the likes of missouri, georgia, VANDY (lol), south carolina, GEORGIA SOUTHERN (hahahaha), and Florida state.

So you mean to tell me the team that lost 7 straight games, 8 total, should have beaten us?

Didn't we go 5-7 in 2013? And 7-6 in 2014?

I don't get what you're complaining about?

We also sucked those 2 years. You're criticisms would make sense of we were beating everyone else in the SEC but kept losing to an inferior Florida team.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

And south carolina has beaten florida 4 out of the last 5 years, and D4H still wants to blame talent on us losing 11 straight years....

So this is what it's about. You don't want to accept the reality that Florida has simply been a better program the last 11 years. So you latch onto this mythology that its just an issue in the players heads.

I think the issue is just in your head.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Didn't we go 5-7 in 2013? And 7-6 in 2014?

I don't get what you're complaining about?

We also sucked those 2 years. You're criticisms would make sense of we were beating everyone else in the SEC but kept losing to an inferior Florida team.

Florida went 4-8 in 2013 (something we have NEVER done) and 7-5 in 2014 so you're rebuttal has no weight.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Please read my last two posts. Superior talent cannot explain the fact that florida has lost to the likes of south carolina (multiple times), missouri (multiple times), VANDY geez, and Georgia freaking southern. All MUCH, MUCH less talented teams than us. The fact that we can't win isn't a fluke or getting lucky or talent. It's more than that.

Maybe Florida just likes kicking our butts?

They don't get up for Vandy or South Carolina. But they like getting up for us and Kentucky.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Maybe Florida just likes kicking our butts?

They don't get up for Vandy or South Carolina. But they like getting up for us and Kentucky.

So it is mindset? See, you agree with me now?

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

If we start consistently outrecruiting Florida. If we start putting more guys into the NFL on a consistent basis. And YET they still keep beating us, then you guys who believe in this supernatural psyche mess may have a point.

Till then the answer is simple. We've been a garbage program the last 10 years that's been getting our butts kicked by every decent program out there. Florida has simply been leading the way.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

So it is mindset? See, you agree with me now?

No. You think our guys are getting psyched out. If they only were mentally stronger they would win. I'm telling you that has zero effect.

Florida just has enough respect for us still that they try hard every time we play them.

They haven't reached the point of sleepwalking against us like they do Vandy.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

If we start consistently outrecruiting Florida. If we start putting more guys into the NFL on a consistent basis. And YET they still keep beating us, then you guys who believe in this supernatural psyche mess may have a point.

Till then the answer is simple. We've been a garbage program the last 10 years that's been getting our butts kicked by every decent program out there.

And yet you still can't explain how teams such as South Carolina, Missouri, and Vandy with far less talent than us have beaten them multiple times in a less time span than we have over 11 years? And those players that have been drafted from Florida the past few years are the same ones that took those losses from all those weak a** SEC teams. I don't see your point...

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

No. You think our guys are getting psyched out. If they only were mentally stronger they would win. I'm telling you that has zero effect.

Florida just has enough respect for us still that they try hard every time we play them.

They haven't reached the point of sleepwalking against us like they do Vandy.

I never said our guys didn't play hard. And now you're disrespecting them questioning their motivation.

But they certainly feel the pressure to get the proverbial "weight off their chests."

 

[82_VOL_83]

Alabama plays 12 regular season games each year. They go into each game with typically a large talent advantage. They typically lose only one game a year (and usually in a flukey way...remember all those turnovers against Ole Miss). 11-1 is a typical Alabama regular season.

So we've lost to Florida 11 straight games. Most have been blowouts. And a few have been close and could have gone either way. If you think of our 11 year streak as an Alabama season then it isn't that surprising we've lost that many games to Florida.

Usually it takes luck and many shots to beat a more talented team. Against Alabama the less talented team succeeds typically 1 out of every 12 times. I don't know why 0 of 11 shocks you?

Hold on, let me go get some opiods real quick so I can follow this.

 

[KBVol]

It could simply be that Georgia are the chockers not us?

Just because we've managed to surprise a Georgia team that always underachieves doesn't mean you should expect the same of Florida.

I mean we've also lost 9 straight to Alabama. Is there a psyche issue there as well? Or have they been obliterating us by such huge margins the last 9 years that you can't play the psyche card?

Again, you don't have enough experience as a fan to see the differences between the rivalries. See if this helps....here are the records and trends over the last 40 or so years, which I think we can agree is both more the modern era when we've played all 3 much more regularly and, a healthy sample size:

Georgia- since 1973, we've played them 29 times...we're 14-15 (.482), there has a lot of give and take and each team has good winning streaks vs the other. In that span, Georgia has streaks of 4, 4 and 5 in a row, while we have streaks of 9 and 2 in a row with other wins mixed in.

Alabama- the last 40 times we've played, we're 14-25-1 (.350) vs Bama, and while the Tide has controlled the series winning nearly 2/3 of the games played, each team has gone on runs has significant winning streaks....Bama has streaks of 6, 7 and 9, while we have streaks of 4, 7 and 2.

Florida- since 1976, we've played them 30 times and are 6-24 (.200). Florida has thoroughly dominated, there's been no "give and take"....only once in the last 30 years have we beaten them twice in a row, while Florida has win streaks of 4, 5 and 11 in a row.

So, in summation, vs our 3 biggest rivals, Georgia, Bama and Florida over the last 40 years, we've been much more competitive vs 2 of them, Georgia and Bama, 28-40-1 (.406) and we have shown the ability to punch back with wins streaks of our own....whereas with the last 30 seasons, we've not beaten the Gators more than twice in a row, while losing 80% of the time.

Do you still not see the glaring difference? Alabama has been the best team in college football the last 6 or 7 years, the losses have been expected and recent history shows that the tables are likely to turn soon and we'll go on a winning streak vs the Tide...4 or 5 or so in a row.

Same goes for Georgia. We came close in 2013 & 2014 and last year we knocked down the door. Do you not feel confident we'll make it two in a row this year? I know I do, and history shows that it's about time we rip off a win streak vs them, perhaps even like the 9 game streak in 1989/92-99.

Florida however?.....not so much.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Again, you don't have enough experience as a fan to see the differences between the rivalries. See if this helps....here are the records and trends over the last 40 or so years, which I think we can agree is both more the modern era when we've played all 3 much more regularly and, a healthy sample size:

Georgia- since 1973, we've played them 29 times...we're 14-15 (.482), there has a lot of give and take and each team has good winning streaks vs the other. In that span, Georgia has streaks of 4, 4 and 5 in a row, while we have streaks of 9 and 2 in a row with other wins mixed in.

Alabama- the last 40 times we've played, we're 14-25-1 (.350) vs Bama, and while the Tide has controlled the series winning nearly 2/3 of the games played, each team has gone on runs has significant winning streaks....Bama has streaks of 6, 7 and 9, while we have streaks of 4, 7 and 2.

Florida- since 1976, we've played them 30 times and are 6-24 (.200). Florida has thoroughly dominated, there's been no "give and take"....only once in the last 30 years have we beaten them twice in a row, while Florida has win streaks of 4, 5 and 11 in a row.

So, in summation, vs our 3 biggest rivals, Georgia, Bama and Florida over the last 40 years, we've been much more competitive vs 2 of them, Georgia and Bama, 28-40-1 (.406) and we have shown the ability to punch back with wins streaks of our own....whereas with the last 30 seasons, we've not beaten the Gators more than twice in a row, while losing 80% of the time.

Do you still not see the glaring difference? Alabama has been the best team in college football the last 6 or 7 years, the losses have been expected and recent history shows that the tables are likely to turn soon and we'll go on a winning streak vs the Tide...4 or 5 or so in a row.

Same goes for Georgia. We came close in 2013 & 2014 and last year we knocked down the door. Do you not feel confident we'll make it two in a row this year? I know I do, and history shows that it's about time we rip off a win streak vs them, perhaps even like the 9 game streak in 1989/92-99.

Florida however?.....not so much.

Good points. Too bad D4H will skew it all into convincing everyone that the history of the Florida/UT game doesn't mean anything.

 

[malinoisvol]

There are a lot of fans that need to place a piece of coal between their buttocks on the Monday prior to the UT Florida game. By kickoff, they will have a diamond each.

Unclinch!

Enjoy!

And repeat after me....












GO BIG ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[McDad]

Again, you don't have enough experience as a fan to see the differences between the rivalries. See if this helps....here are the records and trends over the last 40 or so years, which I think we can agree is both more the modern era when we've played all 3 much more regularly and, a healthy sample size:

Georgia- since 1973, we've played them 29 times...we're 14-15 (.482), there has a lot of give and take and each team has good winning streaks vs the other. In that span, Georgia has streaks of 4, 4 and 5 in a row, while we have streaks of 9 and 2 in a row with other wins mixed in.

Alabama- the last 40 times we've played, we're 14-25-1 (.350) vs Bama, and while the Tide has controlled the series winning nearly 2/3 of the games played, each team has gone on runs has significant winning streaks....Bama has streaks of 6, 7 and 9, while we have streaks of 4, 7 and 2.

Florida- since 1976, we've played them 30 times and are 6-24 (.200). Florida has thoroughly dominated, there's been no "give and take"....only once in the last 30 years have we beaten them twice in a row, while Florida has win streaks of 4, 5 and 11 in a row.

So, in summation, vs our 3 biggest rivals, Georgia, Bama and Florida over the last 40 years, we've been much more competitive vs 2 of them, Georgia and Bama, 28-40-1 (.406) and we have shown the ability to punch back with wins streaks of our own....whereas with the last 30 seasons, we've not beaten the Gators more than twice in a row, while losing 80% of the time.

Do you still not see the glaring difference? Alabama has been the best team in college football the last 6 or 7 years, the losses have been expected and recent history shows that the tables are likely to turn soon and we'll go on a winning streak vs the Tide...4 or 5 or so in a row.

Same goes for Georgia. We came close in 2013 & 2014 and last year we knocked down the door. Do you not feel confident we'll make it two in a row this year? I know I do, and history shows that it's about time we rip off a win streak vs them, perhaps even like the 9 game streak in 1989/92-99.

Florida however?.....not so much.

Excellent post.

 

[jakez4ut]

here's all you need to know about this topic...

CJM quote after last year's game:
"if you're at Florida, you just don't lose to TN". said with a big grin on his face.

so yeah, it matters.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

here's all you need to know about this topic...

CJM quote after last year's game:
"if you're at Florida, you just don't lose to TN". said with a big grin on his face.

so yeah, it matters.

Locker room motivational material. Oh, wait our players don't base last years game on this....

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

And yet you still can't explain how teams such as South Carolina, Missouri, and Vandy with far less talent than us have beaten them multiple times in a less time span than we have over 11 years? And those players that have been drafted from Florida the past few years are the same ones that took those losses from all those weak a** SEC teams. I don't see your point...

They've been lucky.

Like I said earlier your argument basically boils down to why aren't we getting the lucky break of beating a more talented team.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

They've been lucky.

Like I said earlier your argument basically boils down to why aren't we getting the lucky break of beating a more talented team.

Luck doesn't explain 4 out of 5 wins by south carolina, 2 wins by missouri, and wins by Vandy and Georgia Southern.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Again, you don't have enough experience as a fan to see the differences between the rivalries. See if this helps....here are the records and trends over the last 40 or so years, which I think we can agree is both more the modern era when we've played all 3 much more regularly and, a healthy sample size:

Georgia- since 1973, we've played them 29 times...we're 14-15 (.482), there has a lot of give and take and each team has good winning streaks vs the other. In that span, Georgia has streaks of 4, 4 and 5 in a row, while we have streaks of 9 and 2 in a row with other wins mixed in.

Alabama- the last 40 times we've played, we're 14-25-1 (.350) vs Bama, and while the Tide has controlled the series winning nearly 2/3 of the games played, each team has gone on runs has significant winning streaks....Bama has streaks of 6, 7 and 9, while we have streaks of 4, 7 and 2.

Florida- since 1976, we've played them 30 times and are 6-24 (.200). Florida has thoroughly dominated, there's been no "give and take"....only once in the last 30 years have we beaten them twice in a row, while Florida has win streaks of 4, 5 and 11 in a row.

So, in summation, vs our 3 biggest rivals, Georgia, Bama and Florida over the last 40 years, we've been much more competitive vs 2 of them, Georgia and Bama, 28-40-1 (.406) and we have shown the ability to punch back with wins streaks of our own....whereas with the last 30 seasons, we've not beaten the Gators more than twice in a row, while losing 80% of the time.

Do you still not see the glaring difference? Alabama has been the best team in college football the last 6 or 7 years, the losses have been expected and recent history shows that the tables are likely to turn soon and we'll go on a winning streak vs the Tide...4 or 5 or so in a row.

Same goes for Georgia. We came close in 2013 & 2014 and last year we knocked down the door. Do you not feel confident we'll make it two in a row this year? I know I do, and history shows that it's about time we rip off a win streak vs them, perhaps even like the 9 game streak in 1989/92-99.

Florida however?.....not so much.

Actually I'm more confident we beat Florida this year than Georgia. Georgia has more talent and is on the road.

I don't think the Florida game will even be close.

Supernatural forces be damned.

 

[Dobbs 4 Heisman]

Luck doesn't explain 4 out of 5 wins by south carolina, 2 wins by missouri, and wins by Vandy and Georgia Southern.

Most of South Carolina's wins came when they were a top 25 team. Mizzou's 2 wins came when they won the East and kicked everyone else's butts in the conference as well. Vandy and Georgia Southern are the flukes.

There has been a time in the last decade where we've been good and Florida bad. Usually when Florida has sucked we've sucked as well.

Its kinda hard to expect a W when you also suck.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Actually I'm more confident we beat Florida this year than Georgia. Georgia has more talent and is on the road.

I don't think the Florida game will even be close.

Supernatural forces be damned.

You disregarded the entirety of KB's post.