Fixing the Second Amendment

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lawgator1 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...a19578-b8fa-11e3-96ae-f2c36d2b1245_story.html

Former Justice Stevens explains how the Court interpreted the 2nd Amendment for 200 years, in accord with history and the text, but got away from that and expanded it too far.



He proposes adding five words, to return it to its original intent and language.
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I have never seen anyone so eager to give up their soul to the federal government. LG, I just don't understand the thought process. The 2nd amendment is explicitly written to allow a well regulated militia. The militia is private citizens that band together as required to protect the country from outside threat or to protect the people from a tyranny. This was what the "military" was when this country was born. It is really one of the simplest amendments to not only understand but to understand the reasoning behind. After the last 7 years, the fact that you can't see a tyranny when it is staring you straight in the face is amazing.
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I have never seen anyone so eager to give up their soul to the federal government. LG, I just don't understand the thought process. The 2nd amendment is explicitly written to allow a well regulated militia. The militia is private citizens that band together as required to protect the country from outside threat or to protect the people from a tyranny. This was what the "military" was when this country was born. It is really one of the simplest amendments to not only understand but to understand the reasoning behind. After the last 7 years, the fact that you can't see a tyranny when it is staring you straight in the face is amazing.
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Talking common sense to a left-wing loony liberal like LG doesn't work too well. Loony liberals don't understand common sense thinking & logic.
 
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One of my lefty loon friends was ranting about how the founding fathers would be horrified at the proliferation of firearms in this country. I did a double take. I had to explain to this nimrod their historical acumen was as sharp as a wet bag of hammers. They didn't realize that back in "those days" everyone had a gun. Everyone. I feel they would be horrified of a lot of other things, like modern liberals.
 
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Just think how big the state militias would get if they made this change. They wouldn't be happy about that at all!
 
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The idea that Bubba and his buddies are going to fight off the American military is the funniest thing I have ever heard.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
Let me guess. It's going down like Jade Helm?
Oh wait...
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(sigh) Dismissive myopia is not a good look for you. FLVOL threw a tiny nugget at you.

Basically, if all you can (or more likely care to be bothered to) grasp is Bubba vs Strike Eagles you aren't engaged enough to be relevant to the conversation. Obviously it's fine if you don't care enough to give the topic even cursory (much less serious) thought but if that's the case why bother to comment?
 
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82_VOL_83 said:
I have never seen anyone so eager to give up their soul to the federal government. LG, I just don't understand the thought process. The 2nd amendment is explicitly written to allow a well regulated militia. The militia is private citizens that band together as required to protect the country from outside threat or to protect the people from a tyranny. This was what the "military" was when this country was born. It is really one of the simplest amendments to not only understand but to understand the reasoning behind. After the last 7 years, the fact that you can't see a tyranny when it is staring you straight in the face is amazing.
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Okay, but Washington's experience trying to win a war with militia is one of the reasons the articles of federation were dropped in favor of our constitution. It didn't work very well. How would untrained militiamen fair in a modern war with planes, satellites, tanks, etc? Not well. And restrictions on arms aren't really the reason why. You need training to be able to deal with it.

All that said, I'm not upset with the current regulations regarding firearms.
 
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jvol1 said:
How would untrained militiamen fair in a modern war with planes, satellites, tanks, etc?
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Why would you believe everybody on one side would be "untrained" and for that matter why would you think all the heavy weapons would be on one side either?

The biggest issue with anyone taking this kind of view is that they approach the idea of armed defiance of Federal tyranny as some small militant uprising by some pizzed off extremists scattered about with nothing but small arms. You need to consider that in the kind of scenario we're really talking about (where the Feds are actually going to circumvent Posse Comitatus) you're looking at having entire states and lots of regular servicemen dividing sides.
 
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jvol1 said:
Okay, but Washington's experience trying to win a war with militia is one of the reasons the articles of federation were dropped in favor of our constitution. It didn't work very well. How would untrained militiamen fair in a modern war with planes, satellites, tanks, etc? Not well. And restrictions on arms aren't really the reason why. You need training to be able to deal with it.

All that said, I'm not upset with the current regulations regarding firearms.
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Didn't work too well for us in Vietnam either. I'm sure the military will be much more eager to use lethal force against millions of American citizens and destroy infrastructure with heavy weapons, though.

Luckily this is a hypothetical because if this ever happens the signs of America becoming an authoritarian hellhole will have already been obvious, but the resistance would last a long time in rural areas. Law enforcement and military won't be unanimously in favor of enforcing these laws either.
 
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