Fire Pruitt [merged]

[WildTurkey]

44% of voters knowingly want to inflict damage to the UT football program.

The damage has already been/is being inflicted fyi

 

[JMSqb11]

The damage has already been/is being inflicted fyi

What’s happening now would be nothing close to the ramifications of firing Pruitt 13 games into his career here in hopes of hiring a “home run” as his replacement given other factors

 

[WildTurkey]

People wanting Pruitt fired right now have no real concern for any long term success for the program. Literally no amount of money would get a coach here if we fired a coach 13 games in because of knee jerk reactions. Especially after following a coach who turned the culture completely upside down and didn’t recruit well

Not suggesting immediate dismissal, but the team couldn't be any worse with Tee as HC

 

[JMSqb11]

Not suggesting immediate dismissal, but the team couldn't be any worse with Tee as HC

How do you know?

So you’re solution is to replace a first time head coach with another one just because of where they went to College?

 

[Herman Hickman]

You also don’t fire a coach after first game of the season. Especially the first game into a second season.

By doing that, you ensure that no one other than a community college coach is the best candidate that would willingly look at the job.

The fire Pruitt crowd really wants nothing more than harm to Tennessee Football then helping it....

Harm would be to give a man a third, fourth, and fifth season in charge when he has done nothing in his second season but produce a product that is a poor man's version of what Butch Jones had on the field against Appy State in 2016.

Again, it isn't just one game. This is a failure to lead, develop, prepare, and condition players. That isn't on the players themselves. That is on Coach Pruitt entirely.

 

[Herman Hickman]

How do you know?

So you’re solution is to replace a first time head coach with another one just because of where they went to College?

If you have Harvey Robinson-level failure, then you get rid of your Harvey Robinson-level problem.

 

[KeyVol14]

You don't get a mulligan for failing to have your team properly prepared and conditioned to play on the first game of your first full season in charge.

That is indefensible and every single coach on that staff, Bill Battle version 2 included, knows that.

This is his second full season in charge lol

 

[WildTurkey]

People wanting Pruitt fired right now have no real concern for any long term success for the program. Literally no amount of money would get a coach here if we fired a coach 13 games in because of knee jerk reactions. Especially after following a coach who turned the culture completely upside down and didn’t recruit well

Not suggesting immediate dismissal, but the team couldn't be any worse with Tee as HC

 

[JMSqb11]

Harm would be to give a man a third, fourth, and fifth season in charge when he has done nothing in his second season but produce a product that is a poor man's version of what Butch Jones had on the field against Appy State in 2016.

Again, it isn't just one game. This is a failure to lead, develop, prepare, and condition players. That isn't on the players themselves. That is on Coach Pruitt entirely.

And once again you will only explode the program even further.

And there is no guarantee Pruitt is getting a 4th and 5th year at all. If anything, I think the minimum is 3 seasons. And once again, you don’t jettison a coach for something on the field after 13 games into his career. Anyone basing a season on one game is someone not dealing in reality. This is one game with this locker room. Last time I checked, we have 11 other games on the schedule.

You clearly act like firing Pruitt now is in the best interest of the program but adding 9 million dollars to Butch’s buyout does not help the program. Trying to convince a coach and new staff to come here after firing a staff only after 13 games is impossible. So your best option will be another up and comer who may or may not work out. All because you people had a kneejerk reaction from one game into a season.

 

[JMSqb11]

Not suggesting immediate dismissal, but the team couldn't be any worse with Tee as HC

And I ask you again, how do you know that Tee would be better? Because you only make that move if you feel Tee can make you better. You wouldn’t fire a coach just to replace him with someone who is just as good or “any worse”

 

[volfanhill]

What’s happening now would be nothing close to the ramifications of firing Pruitt 13 games into his career here in hopes of hiring a “home run” as his replacement given other factors

Offer satterfield or norvell big bucks

 

[WildTurkey]

How do you know?

So you’re solution is to replace a first time head coach with another one just because of where they went to College?

What's the worst that could happen? Lose at home to a 26 pt dog? Lose to Vandy again? At least it's likely that Tee gives a crap about the place he went to college.

Jury's out on the current guy.

 

[KeyVol14]

And once again you will only explode the program even further.

And there is no guarantee Pruitt is getting a 4th and 5th year at all. If anything, I think the minimum is 3 seasons. And once again, you don’t jettison a coach for something on the field after 13 games into his career. Anyone basing a season on one game is someone not dealing in reality. This is one game with this locker room. Last time I checked, we have 11 other games on the schedule.

You clearly act like firing Pruitt now is in the best interest of the program but adding 9 million dollars to Butch’s buyout does not help the program. Trying to convince a coach and new staff to come here after firing a staff only after 13 games is impossible. So your best option will be another up and comer who may or may not work out. All because you people had a kneejerk reaction from one game into a season.

Game one did suck and was alarming but I keep harping that it was more of the coaches along with players going into the game with no agenda and fitting players to puzzle to see where they fit. It backfired and won't happen again

 

[T2Vol]

In all honesty, no matter how bad this thing gets, Fulmer doesn’t have the stones to fire Pruitt this early. He’ll get another year regardless.

 

[JMSqb11]

Offer satterfield or norvell big bucks

Those two would never leave those jobs to come to Tennessee after seeing a coach fired 13 games into his career here.

But let’s play the game then:

Who’s gonna pay those big bucks?

So counting Butch and Pruitt, you would have 20+ million in buyouts to pay. You’d then have to pay the new coach’s buyouts to Memphis and Louisville since they each have new deals in place. Then you have to pay their staffs. All because you had an issue with a coach not even one game into his second season.

Such a brilliant idea.

 

[JMSqb11]

What's the worst that could happen? Lose at home to a 26 pt dog? Lose to Vandy again? At least it's likely that Tee gives a crap about the place he went to college.

Jury's out on the current guy.

So you don’t know is what you’re saying?

And for someone who loves this place so much, Tee sure did try to get on staff at Tennessee so quickly in his coaching career.

Sounds about right.

 

[WildTurkey]

What’s happening now would be nothing close to the ramifications of firing Pruitt 13 games into his career here in hopes of hiring a “home run” as his replacement given other factors

Nah I disagree. You don't have to hire a home run now. Just someone who can get guys to play hard. That's literally the center of the conversation. This team hasn't played with effort since UK last year.

 

[JMSqb11]

Nah I disagree. You don't have to hire a home run now. Just someone who can get guys to play hard. That's literally the center of the conversation. This team hasn't played with effort since UK last year.

That sounds great in theory but you’ve yet to mention a reasonable scenario.

What coach would legitimately come here after a coach who gets fired 13 games into his career here? On top of the 20+ million buyouts we would have on the books? We aren’t firing Pruitt just to hire an up and comer because his salary requirements are gonna be cheaper.

 

[Herman Hickman]

And once again you will only explode the program even further.

And there is no guarantee Pruitt is getting a 4th and 5th year at all. If anything, I think the minimum is 3 seasons. And once again, you don’t jettison a coach for something on the field after 13 games into his career. Anyone basing a season on one game is someone not dealing in reality. This is one game with this locker room. Last time I checked, we have 11 other games on the schedule.

You clearly act like firing Pruitt now is in the best interest of the program but adding 9 million dollars to Butch’s buyout does not help the program. Trying to convince a coach and new staff to come here after firing a staff only after 13 games is impossible. So your best option will be another up and comer who may or may not work out. All because you people had a kneejerk reaction from one game into a season.

I expect Coach Fulmer to uphold the standard of this program. Neyland did not excuse this level of incompetence from his head coach in 1954. Neither should Fulmer.

You don't get dominated by a bottom-feeding Sun Belt program and just blow it off as "one game." This is a program-defining defeat, the kind that deservedly put head coaches on the hot seat.

It isn't just one game. It is an indictment of Pruitt's approach in the months and days leading up to this opening game of the season.

 

[WildTurkey]

So you don’t know is what you’re saying?

And for someone who loves this place so much, Tee sure did try to get on staff at Tennessee so quickly in his coaching career.

Sounds about right.

I think it's safe to assume he won't actually be fired mid-season. I'm really just arguing that it would be justified.

And yes regardless of Tee's resume, it's safe to say he cares more about the legacy of UT than Pruitt.

 

[volfanhill]

Those two would never leave those jobs to come to Tennessee after seeing a coach fired 13 games into his career here.

But let’s play the game then:

Who’s gonna pay those big bucks?

So counting Butch and Pruitt, you would have 20+ million in buyouts to pay. You’d then have to pay the new coach’s buyouts to Memphis and Louisville since they each have new deals in place. Then you have to pay their staffs. All because you had an issue with a coach not even one game into his second season.

Such a brilliant idea.

The not brilliant idea is to keep a guy who has a team that has quit on him. 3 straight games of zero give a ****s. Why should we let that roll on?

 

[JMSqb11]

The not brilliant idea is to keep a guy who has a team that has quit on him. 3 straight games of zero give a ****s. Why should we let that roll on?

There haven’t been 3 games played this season.

It’s been 1 game with this locker room with 11 to go.

 

[volfanhill]

There haven’t been 3 games played this season.

It’s been 1 game with this locker room with 11 to go.

Did you watch the two to end last year? I can’t think of a bigger problem for a HC then players not having effort. It’s three in a row.

 

[JMSqb11]

I expect Coach Fulmer to uphold the standard of this program. Neyland did not excuse this level of incompetence from his head coach in 1954. Neither should Fulmer.

You don't get dominated by a bottom-feeding Sun Belt program and just blow it off as "one game." This is a program-defining defeat, the kind that deservedly put head coaches on the hot seat.

It isn't just one game. It is an indictment of Pruitt's approach in the months and days leading up to this opening game of the season.

And I’m sure Neyland and Fulmer would both share that one game doesn’t define a career or program.

If you really have the program’s success at the top of the list, you’re not firing Pruitt after the first game of the season in his second year unless you want to set the program back another decade. Because doing that means you are begging coaches to come here and they would be coaches of mid major schools, not coaches that are hot commodities across the country at other programs

 

[JMSqb11]

Did you watch the two to end last year?

Sure did. But that isn’t the same team or locker room now is it?