Finebaum said

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in the last 75 years of college football , there are probably 3 times that number where national championship banners are hung up at stadiums across the country.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Only if you want to claim the 1938 and 40 "championships" which were "awarded" by the Dunkel System, whatever that is. I've said it many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how UT fans will blast bammers for claiming 12 national championships (or whatever they are up to now), yet these same people want to claim bogus championships for UT. We have 2 legitimate national championships, 1951 and 1998.
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The 38 team was awarded more national titles than thr 38 TCU team.

The other possible one was 1950, where UT had more national titles than OU.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Neyland had 1 national championship.
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Sorry, he won more. The NCAA recognizes more than just the AP poll.

I find it hard to not recognize a team that was undefeated during the regular season for 3 straight years. And one of those, didn't give up a single point.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Only if you want to claim the 1938 and 40 "championships" which were "awarded" by the Dunkel System, whatever that is. I've said it many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how UT fans will blast bammers for claiming 12 national championships (or whatever they are up to now), yet these same people want to claim bogus championships for UT. We have 2 legitimate national championships, 1951 and 1998.
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You guys are talking about "votes" that occurred in the late 30's and early 40's. Those games weren't on television. For 3 seasons, the Vols were the most dominant team in the nation. Don't give me the bowl game crap either. You have to go by the rules of the day. Bowl games didn't count. Neyland used them like spring practice and a vacation for his players.

And since Alabama was brought up, the Vols should have legitimate claims, polls or not, for '38, '39, '40, '50, '51, and '56.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Only if you want to claim the 1938 and 40 "championships" which were "awarded" by the Dunkel System, whatever that is. I've said it many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how UT fans will blast bammers for claiming 12 national championships (or whatever they are up to now), yet these same people want to claim bogus championships for UT. We have 2 legitimate national championships, 1951 and 1998.
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If CFBDW says we have 1938 and 1950, I'll agree we at least have that. That site isn't perfect, but it doesn't just throw them out.
 
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tvolsfan said:
They are also less bias than you... Bryant has won almost twice as many games as Neyland...
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....yo, Bro, I love ya, but there was a liitlle thing called a world war. Also, Bryant coached ALOT more games due to said war. ....and the times and $$$$ were WAY different. This will always be an argument about semantics and I will ALWAYS fall on the side of the general....right or wrong(probably wrong):salute:
 
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TuskALoosa said:
Just when I thought that there was no possible way for the collective I.Q. of this board to get any lower, it has now dipped somewhere between a Neanderthal and a Mongolid.
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....well, you can't expect us to measure up to those "high-brow" 'Bammer sites, huh. Glad you keep "slummin'" we like having you around Einstien.
 
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lovethetide said:
This is from the same guy who, a couple of weeks ago, said that Bryant was nothing but a drunk...

:crazy:
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He was a drunk, but he was also the best football coach around.

Being a drunk didn't impair his ability to coach.

I'm not going to elevate him to "hero" status though.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I'm not saying it as criticism. I think a man who serves his country in battle(Neyland) or pulls himself up out of abject poverty by sheer will and force of talent(Bryant) can drink as much as they damn well please.
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:toast: That excuses most of my posts, too. The only time I can get time to be on here is in that catagory (not comparing myself to either of these two incredible men....just relating:)
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Only if you want to claim the 1938 and 40 "championships" which were "awarded" by the Dunkel System, whatever that is. I've said it many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how UT fans will blast bammers for claiming 12 national championships (or whatever they are up to now), yet these same people want to claim bogus championships for UT. We have 2 legitimate national championships, 1951 and 1998.
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1938 NC was given by 8 different polling services.

Billingsley, Boand, Dunkel, Football Research, Houlgate, Litkenhous, Poling, Sagarin

1950 Was awarded by 5
Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, National Championship Foundation
 
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dickens821 said:
1938 NC was given by 8 different polling services.

Billingsley, Boand, Dunkel, Football Research, Houlgate, Litkenhous, Poling, Sagarin

1950 Was awarded by 5
Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, National Championship Foundation
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I thought Jeff Sagarin's poll was relatively new. Didn't know his grandfather was polling as well.
 
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justingroves said:
He was a drunk, but he was also the best football coach around.

Being a drunk didn't impair his ability to coach.

I'm not going to elevate him to "hero" status though.
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Are you saying that a sports figure isn't a true hero? If not, who does qualify?
Just wondering, considering your posts after the UA/TN game. You said it then, too, that Bryant shouldn't be considered a "hero". :question:
 
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lovethetide said:
Are you saying that a sports figure isn't a true hero? If not, who does qualify?
Just wondering, considering your posts after the UA/TN game. You said it then, too, that Bryant shouldn't be considered a "hero". :question:
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Quite frankly because I'm a UT fan and I hate the Tide. That is why I do not consider him a "hero."

There are a lot more prominent figures to be used as someone's hero in my book. But if you want to keep laying bags of potato chips and bottles of coke at the feet of Bryant's statue go right ahead.
 
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justingroves said:
Quite frankly because I'm a UT fan and I hate the Tide. That is why I do not consider him a "hero."

There are a lot more prominent figures to be used as someone's hero in my book. But if you want to keep laying bags of potato chips and bottles of coke at the feet of Bryant's statue go right ahead.
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as a sports journalism major, you should be able to read and understand the question. I asked if a "sports figure" shouldn't be considered a "hero" in your opinion, not an "Alabama sports figure". BTW, I've never laid bags of chips or bottles of coke on anyone's grave or statue. Just wanting a straightforward answer.

I'm beginning to wonder if sports journalism majors are taught to make provocative statements without any thought to relevance in an attempt to incite an angry response... kinda like your mentor Finebaum. :question:
 
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volbreaker said:
Retroactive Sagrins......He can't even get the present write. I damn sure don't trust him to troll through the archives and give us accurate info.
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Jeff Sagarin's computer knows more about football than you ever will. And so do I.
 
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VolinArizona said:
Jeff Sagarin's computer knows more about football than you ever will. And so do I.
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Well, Here's to hoping that you and 'ole Jeffy are happy together. It'll be a wonderful partnership of over-rating teams like USF and UCONN and long walks on the beach discussing the data that tells all us unknowlegeable little people that Ohio State is the best team in the land.
 
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