VolfanMike
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Bear Bryant has a better record (12-2) against Florida than Fulmer against Florida 5-11 :lolabove:
What is your point?
I wasn't understanding the original argument comparing Fulmer to Bryant either. However, Florida has no dog in this hunt. The discussion seems to be between Tennessee and Alabama. Especially since Florida didn't field any good teams (without cheating) prior to 1990.
I wasn't understanding the original argument comparing Fulmer to Bryant either. However, Florida has no dog in this hunt. The discussion seems to be between Tennessee and Alabama. Especially since Florida didn't field any good teams (without cheating) prior to 1990.
With all due respect I thought this thread was about all-time SEC coaches not limited to just Alabama and Tenn.
You are correct UF was a non-factor for most of the 20th century and most teams had a winning record against UF. I just threw out that fact to state some coaches are better against some teams and worst against others.
We got a great history of coaches in the SEC. We are the envy of other conferences where many conferences will have trouble naming 5-10 decent coaches in their history.
Neyland had 1 national championship.In 21 seasons,
Neyland won
8 conference championships (38.1%)
3 national championships (14.3%)
In 38 seasons,
Bryant won
15 conference championships (39.5%)
6 national championships (15.8%)
If you want all known, including minor polls, national championships, Neyland had 5 and Bryant had 10.
On a side note, Hershel's first choice was clemson. His parents persuaded him to stay in state at Georgia.
We all know Bear didnt need marque players to win NC's as he did in the 1970's. Bear won consistently, and stayed a power. In no way i would diminish Dooleys accomplishment but had he had better seasons out side the Hershel era, then he would be in the discussion as the top 3 or 5. He has had a Fulmeresque career.
I'm kidding. Both were giants of the game and were over 18 for the VAST majority of their respective coaching careers.I'm not saying it as criticism. I think a man who serves his country in battle(Neyland) or pulls himself up out of abject poverty by sheer will and force of talent(Bryant) can drink as much as they damn well please.
Oh I know all this. What Neyland did was great. I have the utmost respect for him and what he did.
Neyland was a great coach. He did amazing things here. He should be ranked in any smart person's top 5 coaches of all time. But Bryant is #1 as far as I'm concerned.
Only if you want to claim the 1938 and 40 "championships" which were "awarded" by the Dunkel System, whatever that is. I've said it many times before, but it never ceases to amaze me how UT fans will blast bammers for claiming 12 national championships (or whatever they are up to now), yet these same people want to claim bogus championships for UT. We have 2 legitimate national championships, 1951 and 1998.Only 1? I thought it was more like 3... College football data warehouse doesn't usually seem to include fake titles...