Finals thread.

#826
#826
bigorange16 said:
This is just the beginning.
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The hardest championship to win?

The first one.

Now LeBron can always say "I've done this for."

I expect them to repeat. All they need is a defensive center and another swingman.
 
#827
#827
I thought OKC would've won this series before it started. They are my second favorite team to root for. I was happy to have a good Finals to look forward to.

But man, I'm so happy to see Lebron and D Wade and the rest of the guys make this happen. These guys worked hard to get here.

Next year is never guaranteed.
 
#828
#828
Dbake005 said:
Not to mention just leaving the Thunder just completely baffled on defense. And Durant couldn't guard him or else he'd be in foul trouble. He did much more than the numbers, as amazing as the numbers are.
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Two triple doubles also.
 
#829
#829
joeydupree said:
I thought OKC would've won this series before it started. They are my second favorite team to root for. I was happy to have a good Finals to look forward to.

But man, I'm so happy to see Lebron and D Wade and the rest of the guys make this happen. These guys worked hard to get here.

Next year is never guaranteed.
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Solid post
 
#832
#832
joeydupree said:
I thought OKC would've won this series before it started. They are my second favorite team to root for. I was happy to have a good Finals to look forward to.

But man, I'm so happy to see Lebron and D Wade and the rest of the guys make this happen. These guys worked hard to get here.

Next year is never guaranteed.
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I'm happy for LeBron. Despite the hate he gets for a lot of things, two things make me happy for him:

1) He's one of the most unselfish superstars in NBA history. It's a silly cliche, but he plays the game the right way.

2) He's faced incredible pressure since he was sixteen year old, and except for about 24 hours, he's handled incredibly well.
 
#835
#835
bleedorange0037 said:
You're right. The All-Star Team in Miami was his ONLY option besides wasting away in Cleveland. For the life of me, I still can't figure out why there weren't more than two teams interested in LeBron.

I didn't say that the Heat are necessarily a reflection of society's problems. Just that the "I want it now" mentality will likely contribute to the other elite players in the league forming superteams now that they just saw LeBron/Wade/Bosh win a ring within 2 years of joining forces. Do you think all the other star players in the league are just going to be content to wait until LeBron/Wade/Bosh retire to get their ring, or are they going to try and do something about it? My money is on them doing something about it.
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It was the best option other that wasting away in Cleveland. And you seem to underestimate how difficult it is to make cap space for multiple all stars on one team. The Heat were an anomaly. It would be almost impossible for a GM to sign 3 players like James/Wade/Bosh unless it was the perfect situation/time.
 
#836
#836
The Heat had TWO players on their team at the end of the 2010 season. Riley pulled a brilliant move.

Also, props to Dwayne Wade for saying "You know what? Bron is better than me. It's his team." Not a lot of guys to do that.

And Mike freaking Miller.
 
#837
#837
zjcvols said:
Who cares? What was more fun, six great teams in the 80's? Or no dynasties in the 70's?

Guess which one caused the NBA in the tape delay era, and the other made it the most popular league at the time?
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The fact that there will be 4 or 5 teams every year who are the class of field doesn't bother me. That's the case most years. It's the fact that the way guys will team up and gravitate to the big market cities will ensure that it will basically be the SAME 4 or 5 teams every year into perpetuity that bothers me.

It's nice to think that a small market team could be managed right and build up to a championship level, and in the past, despite some challenges, that could still happen from time to time. But when all the star players just want to play on a superteam in NY, LA, Miami or Chicago the small market teams will basically just be renting those guys till they go to chase a ring in a big city. That sucks, IMO.
 
#839
#839
bigorange16 said:
It was the best option other that wasting away in Cleveland. And you seem to underestimate how difficult it is to make cap space for multiple all stars on one team. The Heat were an anomaly. It would be almost impossible for a GM to sign 3 players like James/Wade/Bosh unless it was the perfect situation/time.
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Question!

Out of all our posters, who would turn down:

A) Playing in the city of Miami

B) Playing with your best friend and another all-star

C) Leaving Cleveland

Not I.
 
#840
#840
Ay the cat needed Wade and Bosh to win. Not hating just straight up truth. At the end of the day he's still one of the best to play the game there's no doubt. Just telling the truth
 
#843
#843
bleedorange0037 said:
You're right. The All-Star Team in Miami was his ONLY option besides wasting away in Cleveland. For the life of me, I still can't figure out why there weren't more than two teams interested in LeBron.

I didn't say that the Heat are necessarily a reflection of society's problems. Just that the "I want it now" mentality will likely contribute to the other elite players in the league forming superteams now that they just saw LeBron/Wade/Bosh win a ring within 2 years of joining forces. Do you think all the other star players in the league are just going to be content to wait until LeBron/Wade/Bosh retire to get their ring, or are they going to try and do something about it? My money is on them doing something about it.
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This is some happy horseshat. You know the other deal on the table was for him to go to Chicago, where he would have been teamed with another HOF-quality player, right? I guess that would have been better somehow.

If MJ had come open on the FA market and Chicago hadn't done anything else around him, he would have gone someplace where he could have a chance to win too. LeBron handled it in the worst possible manner but I sure don't blame him for dumping a loser organization the second he got a chance.
 
#844
#844
zjcvols said:
I'm happy for LeBron. Despite the hate he gets for a lot of things, two things make me happy for him:

1) He's one of the most unselfish superstars in NBA history. It's a silly cliche, but he plays the game the right way.

2) He's faced incredible pressure since he was sixteen year old, and except for about 24 hours, he's handled incredibly well.
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Good post
 
#845
#845
zjcvols said:
How DARE LeBron spend busting his ass for a ****ty team in Cleveland, where his second best player was MO WILLIAMS, for seven years, to actually play with a decent team.

HOW. DARE. HE.
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I agree his move to Miami was to better his future. But he handled it in such a poor manner that he came off as a douche, for lack of a better term.

Congrats on his first.
 
#846
#846
bleedorange0037 said:
The fact that there will be 4 or 5 teams every year who are the class of field doesn't bother me. That's the case most years. It's the fact that the way guys will team up and gravitate to the big market cities will ensure that it will basically be the SAME 4 or 5 teams every year into perpetuity that bothers me.
It's nice to think that a small market team could be managed right and build up to a championship level, and in the past, despite some challenges, that could still happen from time to time. But when all the star players just want to play on a superteam in NY, LA, Miami or Chicago the small market teams will basically just be renting those guys till they go to chase a ring in a big city. That sucks, IMO.
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Congrats. Other than Tim Duncan, that's been the NBA.

They can. Look at the Thunder, the team that just played in the NBA Finals.

You are overreacting. It's not going to be like that at all. The Heat pulled off something incredible. It's not like that will be completely duplicated.
 
#850
#850
trevols81 said:
I agree his move to Miami was to better his future. But he handled it in such a poor manner that he came off as a douche, for lack of a better term.

Congrats on his first.
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Agree. I was a huge, huge LeBron fan before the Decision, and I couldn't defend it. I'm still a big fan of us though.

But look. He apologized, manned up to it, and moved on. That's what you do when you screw up.

Also, I can forgive someone for having a dumb 24 hours with the incredible amount of pressure he's faced since he was 16, and handle it as gracefully as LeBron has.
 
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