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#3,252
govols/cc said:
I have a job. Health insurance. Life insurance. Short & long term disability insurance.
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As I said something could happen to take it all away. Hopefully it never will but terrible things to happen to good responsible people. You could go to work tomorrow and be told you no longer have a job, your insurance gone. I am not saying this will happen to you but it does happen and has happened to way too many people the last 10 -12 years. I don't like people that abuse the system. I also do not have a problem in helping people that actually need it.
 
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Gramps said:
As I said something could happen to take it all away. Hopefully it never will but terrible things to happen to good responsible people. You could go to work tomorrow and be told you no longer have a job, your insurance gone. I am not saying this will happen to you but it does happen and has happened to way too many people the last 10 -12 years. I don't like people that abuse the system. I also do not have a problem in helping people that actually need it.
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Too many abuse it with no accountability. It needs to be scrapped. If people want to donate it should be a choice not using their tax dollars to fund an endless cycle of entitlements. Most of the people that get this money don't know or care where it comes from they just know it's free s***.
 
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#3,256
Gramps said:
That has been happening for several years.

I take it you are okay with corporate welfare?
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I'm for less government. With all the taxes, red tape, organizations like the EPA etc I'm surprised a lot more companies haven't packed up.
 
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govols/cc said:
I'm for less government. With all the taxes, red tape, organizations like the EPA etc I'm surprised a lot more companies haven't packed up.
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That is not an answer. Do you or do you not favor what is known as corporate welfare?

Again a very simple question. You either do or you don't.
 
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govols/cc said:
I'm not in favor of any welfare
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Thank you for your honesty.

I am glad you answered that way. Welfare is Welfare regardless if it is the rich or poor receiving it. All that receive it are on the government tit, rich or poor.
 
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Gramps said:
So you are saying the responsible thing to do is have the child, refuse any type of government assistance and carry on with life, correct?
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Govt should be a last resort not the first stop. Try family, friends, church, local orgs, etc before turning to govt. In all honesty the govt should not have enough money to fund all those programs. Lower taxes and let the people decide where their money is best used. The American people would take care of their own if they were not forced at gunpoint to give every April
 
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Gramps said:
If a condom burst or the pill does not work , what would be the responsible thing for the parents to do at that time concerning the child?
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Either;

A) start preparing to take care of the child (preferred)

B) plan to put the child up for adoption and start looking for responsible parents
 
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Vol8188 said:
People who can't afford abortions don't need kids. And when they have kids, you and I end up paying to raise those kids. The hospital bill for their birth alone is ten times more than the abortion.
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Why not kill those people since we are probably paying for their life anyways....it would save us a lot of money.
 
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govols/cc said:
That is an answer. If two broke idiots lay down & make a baby it's their responsibility & nobody else's. Not one penny should be used to support idiocy, laziness, disability, etc. Eventually it won't be an issue because there won't be any money to waste. You can't tax a few to support the rest forever.
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They will be able to during our lifetime. Romney was right about the 49%. Those of us that work will pay more and more until we either leave or stop working.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Why not kill those people since we are probably paying for their life anyways....it would save us a lot of money.
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Lol rather harsh but faced with those alternatives I bet many would find a way. Of course the libs make it hard to enforce capital punishment on cold blooded killers.
 
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govols/cc said:
Capital punishment wouldn't waste money if not for libs. Defense spending is necessary but needs a tighter budget & accountability.
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I am totally against capital punishment. Doesn't reduce crime. Can't be reversed in the case of wrongful conviction. I don't want my tax dollars spent on capital punishment. Unfortunately for me, there is no such thing as "my tax dollars". There are only tax dollars. They don't belong to me. The government determines how these tax dollars are spent. We influence these decisions at the ballot box, and by petitioning our elected officials.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What's the alternative? We need employees in these careers. They don't make enough to support themselves. It's a basic problem with capitalism. What's the solution?
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I have to respond to the bolded piece because it is a fallacy that constantly gets repeated by socialists to further their agenda. Capitalism has done more to bring people out of poverty than any other social/economic structure. The fact that people can no longer support a family on minimum wage is not the fault of capitalism. Heck, can you imagine what our grandparents would have thought of an entry level job that paid $10/hr. IMO, It has more to do with a monetary policy that has perverted our form of capitalism. Today, every company I know of is taking massive cost-cutting measures to stay in business, yet the cost of goods continues to rise instead of go down. The reason is inflation.

In basic, inflation is due to monetary expansion. Oddly enough, the government has very little control over this expansion. This responsibility was outsourced to private banks a long time ago. Inflation is good for the banking industry, so remember the next time you hear the Federal Reserve Chairman say they're targeting high inflation... they aren't doing it to help the little guy.
 
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Dr Dread said:
I am totally against capital punishment. Doesn't reduce crime. Can't be reversed in the case of wrongful conviction. I don't want my tax dollars spent on capital punishment. Unfortunately for me, there is no such thing as "my tax dollars". There are only tax dollars. They don't belong to me. The government determines how these tax dollars are spent. We influence these decisions at the ballot box, and by petitioning our elected officials.
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If you believe that last sentence you're not very bright. But you make my point of how sad liberals are nonetheless.
 
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red butler said:
I have to respond to the bolded piece because it is a fallacy that constantly gets repeated by socialists to further their agenda. Capitalism has done more to bring people out of poverty than any other social/economic structure. The fact that people can no longer support a family on minimum wage is not the fault of capitalism. Heck, can you imagine what our grandparents would have thought of an entry level job that paid $10/hr. IMO, It has more to do with a monetary policy that has perverted our form of capitalism. Today, every company I know of is taking massive cost-cutting measures to stay in business, yet the cost of goods continues to rise instead of go down. The reason is inflation.

In basic, inflation is due to monetary expansion. Oddly enough, the government has very little control over this expansion. This responsibility was outsourced to private banks a long time ago. Inflation is good for the banking industry, so remember the next time you hear the Federal Reserve Chairman say they're targeting high inflation... they aren't doing it to help the little guy.
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Inflation is far better for the little guy. If you have a 100,000 mortgage, deflation is the last thing you want.
 
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