Ferguson Riots

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dduncan4163 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdHIatS36A

John Oliver had a good breakdown of it.
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Not too sure about that. More blacks get stopped in a town that is mostly black..um..and?

Maybe black folks should get out and vote for people in the leadership roles of law enforcement? I mean..is that too much to ask? If you want to change your community be active in it, don't wait around waiting for Obama to magically do it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Generally speaking, the police do not have an actionable duty to protect you from third party violence. It is only where they promise help and don't deliver, or by their own action create the risk, that they can be sued. If it were otherwise, then every person who gets victimized by someone else could sue the police and claim that it was their fault because the police did not do enough to protect them.

A domestic violence victim who gets abused could point to prior instances and say "You should have arrested him." A store owner could say, "You knew there would be riots so you are at fault for any damage caused by anyone," or "the guy who looted my store should have been arrested before then."

While it is the job, and the duty of the police, to protect, that is a duty they owe to the public as a whole, not one person. Their negligence is only actionable when their own actions cause the risk.
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I think you're wrong here. This is not a usual circumstance that would require the capability of knowing the future. There are circumstances that exist that would lead a reasonable person to believe that violence/crime would occur without action by LE.
 
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tim said:
So commenting about the war on drugs continuing was not comedy/sarcasm? If not how would/did the officer know he was a drug user? You speak out of both sides of your mouth Mr. Almighty....
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It was brought up as if it were newsworthy or somehow related in any way to this kid doing what he did. It was selected and reported to help justify the police action against him.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
It was brought up as if it were newsworthy or somehow related in any way to this kid doing what he did. It was selected and reported to help justify the police action against him.
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Nope, the poster just passed along information that was released for purposes of informing posters. You made a joke out of it.... You're bad.
 
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Oh and only 80 guardsmen are being deployed right now and only in defense of police staging area it seems.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
So turning it all into stand up night at the chuckle hut solves all the problems?
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Actually, humor often helps the healing process during and after tragic or unexpected loss.

If my humor, (dry as it may be) helps one person cope with the loss of Mike Brown or otherwise brings a smile to the face of those who are struggling with white guilt and political correctness. Then I've done my job.

I do this for you Volnation, it's my beast of burden.
 
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tim said:
I think you're wrong here. This is not a usual circumstance that would require the capability of knowing the future. There are circumstances that exist that would lead a reasonable person to believe that violence/crime would occur without action by LE.
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I should say I don't know the law in Missouri, specifically, but what I am providing is the law as it stems from the English common law and so I am going to assume that theirs is similar, if not identical, to Florida's.

I've been doing such cases for almost 20 years. There would be no cause of action in Florida.

I had one case, where a girl and her new boyfriend were threatened by her ex boyfriend. He sent her pictures of herself, with bullet holes in them. He texted that he would kill them. They went to the police twice one day to complain about it, the police did not do anything about it, and the guy came and killed them both that night.

Dismissed due to absence of an actionable duty.
 
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Septic said:
Actually, humor often helps the healing process during and after tragic or unexpected loss.

If my humor, (dry as it may be) helps one person cope with the loss of Mike Brown or otherwise brings a smile to the face of those who are struggling with white guilt and political correctness. Then I've done my job.

I do this for you Volnation, it's my beast of burden.
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Sam seems a little sensitive to this issue. He took issue with the fact that I found the video of the guy driving through the gas station parking lot yelling F' y'all humorous
 
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lawgator1 said:
I should say I don't know the law in Missouri, specifically, but what I am providing is the law as it stems from the English common law and so I am going to assume that theirs is similar, if not identical, to Florida's.

I've been doing such cases for almost 20 years. There would be no cause of action in Florida.

I had one case, where a girl and her new boyfriend were threatened by her ex boyfriend. He sent her pictures of herself, with bullet holes in them. He texted that he would kill them. They went to the police twice one day to complain about it, the police did not do anything about it, and the guy came and killed them both that night.

Dismissed due to absence of an actionable duty.
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Do that here, you go to jail. Terroristic threatening
 
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lawgator1 said:
I should say I don't know the law in Missouri, specifically, but what I am providing is the law as it stems from the English common law and so I am going to assume that theirs is similar, if not identical, to Florida's.

I've been doing such cases for almost 20 years. There would be no cause of action in Florida.

I had one case, where a girl and her new boyfriend were threatened by her ex boyfriend. He sent her pictures of herself, with bullet holes in them. He texted that he would kill them. They went to the police twice one day to complain about it, the police did not do anything about it, and the guy came and killed them both that night.

Dismissed due to absence of an actionable duty.
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Serious?
 
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lawgator1 said:
I should say I don't know the law in Missouri, specifically, but what I am providing is the law as it stems from the English common law and so I am going to assume that theirs is similar, if not identical, to Florida's.

I've been doing such cases for almost 20 years. There would be no cause of action in Florida.

I had one case, where a girl and her new boyfriend were threatened by her ex boyfriend. He sent her pictures of herself, with bullet holes in them. He texted that he would kill them. They went to the police twice one day to complain about it, the police did not do anything about it, and the guy came and killed them both that night.

Dismissed due to absence of an actionable duty.
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However, this is not a picture, but a precedent of about a weeks worth of looting and violence. I appreciate what you are saying, I just think this is slightly different in that there are actual incidents and plenty of reasons to believe it will continue.
 
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tim said:
However, this is not a picture, but a precedent of about a weeks worth of looting and violence. I appreciate what you are saying, I just think this is slightly different in that there are actual incidents and plenty of reasons to believe it will continue.
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Again, the problem is that then the police become liable for every crime that the plaintiff can say could reasonably have been anticipated or avoided.
 
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I still can't believe that little white cop grabbed the gentle giant black kid by the neck and pulled him into the police car by the neck.....then chased him down the street and shot him with his hands up in the air.....just because he was black....damn it man...what has this world come to?
 
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Too soon?
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Sam seems a little sensitive to this issue. He took issue with the fact that I found the video of the guy driving through the gas station parking lot yelling F' y'all humorous
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It was that video in combination with all of the thinly veiled racist jokes floating around in the thread. I have no white guilt and I'm not inclined toward political correctness, but people seem to think that these events are justification for them to finally let out their pent up bigoted feelings in one big cathartic shot.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
It was that video in combination with all of the thinly veiled racist jokes floating around in the thread. I have no white guilt and I'm not inclined toward political correctness, but people seem to think that these events are justification for them to finally let out their pent up bigoted feelings in one big cathartic shot.
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Is it "bigoted feelings" or stereotypical behaviors being reinforced before our very eyes?
 
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I need a turkey and provolone with spicy mustard and get a couple of cases of those doritos. But be careful and don't get the fire hot ones. I don't like those, and the bags are similar. They should've made the bags a different color. And your cousin said to get some Lysol and some lye.
 
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