Federal Indictment of Donald Trump

Keep going back. The reality is you bought this stuff entirely. You openly defended the Steele dossier and believe(d) the Russia hoax.
Okay .... that must be going further back then I remember, but clearly I did at least acknowledge the reality of the Steele dossier, and then I was critical of Hillary Clinton and the DNC for funding it ....

That is more than most Trump supporters have ever done, regarding the 2020 Presidential Election lies that Donald Trump spread, and that they expressed belief in. For the most part, Trump's supporters on here, will never admit when they were wrong about anything.

I will admit when I am proven wrong.
 
Keep going back. The reality is you bought this stuff entirely. You openly defended the Steele dossier and believe(d) the Russia hoax.
... and even in that post you replied to, I was right about one thing :

The June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower did take place, and both Donald Trump and Donald trump Jr. lied about it taking place. They lied about who was in attendance and they lied about the purpose behind the meeting. Donald Trump Jr. made that clear in e-mails sent to Rob Goldstone, who arranged the meeting.

Yes, I was initially wrong about the Steele dossier and admitted as much, but I wasn't wrong about the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower. If the Trumps had nothing to hide, why did they tell so many lies about it? They brought suspicion on themselves by doing so. There is no better way to arouse suspicion, and revive a fading investigation than to be caught telling multiple lies. You can't blame Democrats and the media for everything. Without the Trumps getting caught telling those lies, the 2016 Trump Campaign/Russian collusion investigation would not have lasted as long as it did.
 
... and even in that post you replied to, I was right about one thing :

The June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower did take place, and both Donald Trump and Donald trump Jr. lied about it taking place. They lied about who was in attendance and they lied about the purpose behind the meeting. Donald Trump Jr. made that clear in e-mails sent to Rob Goldstone, who arranged the meeting.

Yes, I was initially wrong about the Steele dossier and admitted as much, but I wasn't wrong about the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower. If the Trumps had nothing to hide, why did they tell so many lies about it? They brought suspicion on themselves by doing so. There is no better way to arouse suspicion, and revive a fading investigation than to be caught telling multiple lies. You can't blame Democrats and the media for everything. Without the Trumps getting caught telling those lies, the 2016 Trump Campaign/Russian collusion investigation would not have lasted as long as it did.

Sounds real scary.
 
... and even in that post you replied to, I was right about one thing :

The June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower did take place, and both Donald Trump and Donald trump Jr. lied about it taking place. They lied about who was in attendance and they lied about the purpose behind the meeting. Donald Trump Jr. made that clear in e-mails sent to Rob Goldstone, who arranged the meeting.

Yes, I was initially wrong about the Steele dossier and admitted as much, but I wasn't wrong about the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower. If the Trumps had nothing to hide, why did they tell so many lies about it? They brought suspicion on themselves by doing so. There is no better way to arouse suspicion, and revive a fading investigation than to be caught telling multiple lies. You can't blame Democrats and the media for everything. Without the Trumps getting caught telling those lies, the 2016 Trump Campaign/Russian collusion investigation would not have lasted as long as it did.
That's a really long way of saying the Trump Russian stuff was wrong
 
That's a really long way of saying the Trump Russian stuff was wrong
Yes, it was wrong, but the Trumps definitely contributed to the suspicions, and to the investigation going on for as long as it did.

They should have been up front about the June 9, 2016 meeting at Trump Tower, and then explained that although they had met with Russian operatives for the purpose of receiving dirt on Hillary Clinton, they did not actually receive anything that wasn't already common knowledge and publicly available to anyone who was interested in it. That would have also been the right time to mention that Natalia Veselnitskaya, was a dishonest broker. She didn't have any new information that was damaging to Hillary Clinton, as she had claimed to Rob Goldstone (who had arranged the June 9, 2016 meeting). She just wanted a face-to-face meeting with members of the 2016 Trump Campaign, so she could lobby them to repeal the Magnitsky Act, if Trump won the election.

Trump would have taken a brief public relations hit over it, but it would have faded away much quicker than getting caught lying about it did. The Trumps knew that the optics of that meeting weren't great, so they lied about who was in attendance at the meeting, and what the objective of the meeting was. That was a mistake.

Whenever approached with uncomfortable information, Donald Trump's default response is to deny everything about it. If he is later exposed for lying, his response is then to insist that okay, I did it, but there is nothing wrong with what I did.

Okay .... Fine .... but why did you lie? Donald Trump never has an answer for that. Trump simply doesn't see anything wrong with lying.
 
"I admit when I am wrong, by blaming the victims."
It's hard to think of anyone as a victim, when they contributed heavily to their own plight with lies. Donald Trump is no victim, although, he does love to wallow in self-pity, and play the role of a victim.

.... and where was his sympathy for the the 2 Fulton County, Georgia election workers (Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss) that he maliciously lied about for over a year? Those women were forced to move for their own safety. To this day, Donald Trump has never acknowledged those lies, or apologized to those women. When asked about them, he will even double down on his lies, even though they were thoroughly de-bunked years ago.

So, basically .... Cry me the Amazon River.
 
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It's hard to think of anyone as a victim, when they contributed heavily to their own plight with lies. Donald Trump is no victim, although, he does love to wallow in self-pity, and play the role of a victim.

.... and where was his sympathy for the the 2 Fulton County, Georgia election workers (Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss) that he maliciously lied about for over a year? Those women were forced to move for their own safety. To this day, Donald Trump has never acknowledged those lies, or apologized to those women. When asked about them, he will even double down on his lies, even though they were thoroughly de-bunked years ago.

So, basically .... Cry me the Amazon River.
It's strange that you thought my post was about Trump.

(Hint: Every word you type proves my point.)
 
I guess you have all the facts & truth to back up all of this nonsense crap you posted.
You're just repeating left-wing propaganda lies you've heard other lunatics tell you like Rachel Madcow & the CNN lunatic group that hate Trump. Keep drinking the libtard Kool-aid.
Is it a fact that Trump is a fiscal conservative as he initially promised he would be 10 years ago?
 
It's strange that you thought my post was about Trump.

(Hint: Every word you type proves my point.)
I knew it wasn't about Trump when I read it. It could be though, rather easily too. It's absolute irony coming from someone who supports Trump, if you do in fact, support Trump. I'm not entirely certain you do support him though
 
I knew it wasn't about Trump when I read it. It could be though, rather easily too. It's absolute irony coming from someone who supports Trump, if you do in fact, support Trump. I'm not entirely certain you do support him though
I support many of the things he claims to be trying to accomplish. I think he's a better option that the previous two the Dems trotted out. The coordinated attempted coup and lawfare may have given me a slight soft spot for him, as anyone they hate and fear that much can't be all bad.

But no. I don't 'support' anyone.

I take the fact that you couldn't tell if I support him to be almost as great a compliment as Bowl calling me strange.
 
I support many of the things he claims to be trying to accomplish. I think he's a better option that the previous two the Dems trotted out. The coordinated attempted coup and lawfare may have given me a slight soft spot for him, as anyone they hate and fear that much can't be all bad.

But no. I don't 'support' anyone.

I take the fact that you couldn't tell if I support him to be almost as great a compliment as Bowl calling me strange.
I was making an effort to be diplomatic because I wasn't sure of your stance on Trump. I understand why you agree with some of his stated policy positions. His implementation of them has been incompetent and irresponsible, especially with his cabinet picks, IMO.

Glad to hear to you don't support anyone specifically. There really isn't anyone right now worth "supporting" that wants to be POTUS
 
I was making an effort to be diplomatic because I wasn't sure of your stance on Trump. I understand why you agree with some of his stated policy positions. His implementation of them has been incompetent and irresponsible, especially with his cabinet picks, IMO.

Glad to hear to you don't support anyone specifically. There really isn't anyone right now worth "supporting" that wants to be POTUS
No offense was taken or meant per the "compliment" comment. I don't want to be a partisan/person stooge.
 
You should stop with the flattery.
You should stop being an idiot. I was talking about Trump ... If you were talking about something else? Then you should not have replied to me, because what you posted doesn't make a damn bit of sense in any other context. You probably think you sound smart, don't you, Short Bus? Your pithy, little quips are pretentious as hell.
 
You should stop being an idiot. I was talking about Trump ... If you were talking about something else? Then you should not have replied to me, because what you posted doesn't make a damn bit of sense in any other context. You probably think you sound smart, don't you, Short Bus? Your pithy, little quips are pretentious as hell.
I was talking about you.
 
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