FB reporting Salter Family needs help bc of COVID.

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Unconditional Surrender said:
Right/good thing to do. Also a 100% chance UT gets reported for this.
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There are people locally who need just as much help that you will never hear about because their son isn't a major recruit. You could help them without having to wonder if some ngo will shut it down, and make a bigger impact in the community
 
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volsack said:
There are people locally who need just as much help that you will never hear about because their son isn't a major recruit. You could help them without having to wonder if some ngo will shut it down and make a bigger impact in the community
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I 100% agree. We have now donated $27k to this family. I have no problem with people trying to help a good cause but much of this is clearly because he is a star recruit. (I'm sure someone will get on here and try to argue with me about this. Don't care. It's true.)
 
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Unconditional Surrender said:
I 100% agree. We have now donated $27k to this family. I have no problem with people trying to help a good cause but much of this is clearly because he is a star recruit. (I'm sure someone will get on here and try to argue with me about this. Don't care. It's true.)
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What does it matter if he's a star recruit though? It's a family in need and strangers are helping. Don't see the point in calling it out other than you getting your "everybody look at me moment". Congrats.
 
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Unconditional Surrender said:
I 100% agree. We have now donated $27k to this family. I have no problem with people trying to help a good cause but much of this is clearly because he is a star recruit. (I'm sure someone will get on here and try to argue with me about this. Don't care. It's true.)
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It's not just we first of all. Many around DFW have helped also simply because this family leaves a lasting impression on anyone they meet. They deserve the support. And you are correct. Many are helping simply because Kaidon is a highly rated recruit and has the platform to reach all of these people. But isn't that what families do? Isn't one of yalls biggest selling points about being one of the best and largest fan bases? I'm not sure how to go about helping others in the community but I also don't see why that was even brought up. How many in the community contracted the virus and got hospitalized while taking their son 14 hours away to college?
 
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865er said:
What does it matter if he's a star recruit though? It's a family in need and strangers are helping. Don't see the point in calling it out other than you getting your "everybody look at me moment". Congrats.
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The point is that he could lose his eligibility. The gofundme page is covered with "Go Vols."

I am an anonymous guy on a massive message board--there are better ways to get attention.
 
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Contrary to what some on Volnation want to imply, for me, this has nothing to do with who he is or what his talents are. He's a member of the Vol family and the message is that we "Vol"unteer to help when someone is in need. We have done this for other long term members of Volnation who didn't play ball or maybe even ever went to school at UT. They are as much VFL's as anyone else because, they give their time, money, and support to be part of what is very often a lifelong journey. Giving money or just kind words are compassion for others who are going through tough times. How could anyone find fault in that? The family, community, and nation always see we (the Volunteers) step up when called upon. That's who are.
 
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Good to see the goal of $10K has already been surpassed by a large margin.
That should bring the family some relief.
Good deal, in spite of what the feculent ncaa might say.
 
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Looks like VN everywhere pitched in to help his family out. That is awesome and wishing his family all the best.

On the other hand
Wonder how much help I could get from my Vol family on help with the purchase of a new boat 😆
 
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Much confusion still swirls around eligibility and athletes when it comes to The National Collegiate Athletic Association's stance on crowdfunding — even after the NCAA clarified its rules in 2015, giving the method of personal fundraising explicit approval under student-athlete eligibility guidelines.
The NCAA’s clarification came nearly a year after it published an educational column that attempted to reign in a specific type of athlete crowdfunding called “pay-for-play” or “pay-to-stay.” The broad-stroke of the column, however, resulted in confusion among the collegiate community, causing many to steer clear of online personal fundraising.
The NCAA's educational column, helps Division 1 members understand how current regulations apply to crowdfunding. For example, the NCAA does not view crowdfunding any differently than any other form of fundraising. In regard to eligibility and amateur status, this usually requires that funds raised do not exceed “actual and necessary expenses” and relate to competition or training for competition.
As the cost of participating in high-level athletics continues to increase at a level greater than colleges’ and universities’ ability to support sports, online fundraising is becoming the new normal.
Summary of key aspects of the NCAA published position on Crowdfunding
As it relates to prospective student athletes and current student athletes:
  • An athlete may set up their own crowdfunding campaign as long as the funds raised are used for “actual and necessary” expenses related to competition and practice (for team athletes) or an event and practice immediately preceding the event (for individual athletes).
  • An athlete may not receive funds (via crowdfunding or otherwise) from an agent or a representative of an institution’s athletics interests (e.g. a “booster club”) or an institutional staff member.
  • An athlete may participate in non-sports related crowdfunding provided that there is “no relationship to nor mention of athletics”. For example, a soccer player could conduct a crowdfunding campaign to raise money to make a documentary film about pollution as long as she did not mention her status as an athlete.
  • An institution or booster club may not accept crowdfunding donations on behalf of an athlete.
  • Except for a few very specific exceptions, a student-athlete is not permitted to use his or her name or picture to advertise or promote a for-profit crowdfunding service. That is to say, a student athlete can’t act as a spokesperson for a company (crowdfunding or otherwise).
  • A crowdfunding entity can’t independently solicit funds and promise them to the student-athlete upon graduation or exhaustion of athletics eligibility. “Once the student-athlete accepts the promise of pay, the student-athlete has jeopardized his or her eligibility for intercollegiate athletics, even if the funds will not be disbursed until after completion of his or her intercollegiate athletics participation.”
  • A college or university may use crowdfunding in conjunction with its institutional fundraising efforts if the rules of the institutional, charitable, education or nonprofit promotions regulations are satisfied. However, an institution's crowdfunding campaign may not include a co-sponsorship with a for-profit organization and use a current student athlete's name, image or likeness.
  • Some areas of fundraising under some circumstances may fall into gray areas for a particular college or university. As such, athletes are ultimately responsible for ensuring their own compliance with NCAA rules. RallyMe encourages prospective student athletes and student athletes to consult with their college or university as well as visiting the NCAA’s Eligibility Center website at www.eligibilitycenter.org for additional information.
 
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Unconditional Surrender said:
The point is that he could lose his eligibility. The gofundme page is covered with "Go Vols."

I am an anonymous guy on a massive message board--there are better ways to get attention.
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Being worried about this getting him or the school in trouble I could get behind but that’s not what you implied. I’m still confused on why people are bringing up him being a star athlete like that somehow diminishes his families need for help.
 
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Why is something like this never mentioned nationally? We may be a crazy fan base but we sure as hell stand behind and lend a hand to our own. Everything reported nationally regarding this university and the fan base is always negative news. Would be nice to see this brought to light and have something positive said about us. This is truly amazing. Almost 30k raised. Most of which id bet has been donated by people that have no personal affiliation whatsoever with this family! We sure do love our Vols!
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
Excellent cause to donate to. Do we know if there are any NCAA a**hole rules that may come back to haunt the family by us doing this?
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I’m not trying to come off as a jerk but, who cares?! We’ll just call it a “strong @$$ donation” and tell the NCAA to gtfo! What are they gonna do, take away scholarships or give us a bowl ban? We’re getting that anyway, thanks to the last staff.
Besides, I’m pretty sure that’s not there kind of pub the NCAA wants.
But, you are onto something here! Like the reddit stock trading, we can start go fund me recruiting! Can the NCAA do anything to 10,000 “rogue boosters” donating to a kids family?
GBO!!
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I had covid. It was mildly annoying. Then again I'm not a super super high risk guy like this dude. Hope he pulls through.
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You never know. I know several grieving families. One of my former HS students, homecoming queen, big heart, wonderful person, 7 months pregnant, dying of Covid in Vanderbilt Hospital. You never know what this virus might do. My 11 y/o had it (I remained negative) and had no symptoms. You never know.
saltfanclub said:
Not yet. Hopefully soon.
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Please keep us updated. I am not on social media and detest it in general.
The Salter family entrusted their son to our beloved team, now he and his family is beloved by us. We take care of our own.

Donated
 
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People are donating and mentioning Vol Nation and the Vol Family.

NCAA in 1 .. 2...3
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
Excellent cause to donate to. Do we know if there are any NCAA a**hole rules that may come back to haunt the family by us doing this?
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That’s what I was wondering. Although this is obviously a great cause, I could see Gofundme campaigns being a slippery slope when it comes to the NCAA.
 
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Mose Phillip's Watch said:
Man they love UT. Look at all that orange!

Great family! Everyone help out if you can !

Best wishes for a recovery
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Great family because....they are wearing orange? Not saying the family isn’t great but making the statement they are great because of the orange they are wearing really shows no support for your claim. Reminds me of a post from a few years back where one of our linebackers-cant’t recall which one- is photographed sitting a top a valley where a river runs through it with the caption ‘He wants it more” anyone recall or have the photo?
 
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865er said:
Being worried about this getting him or the school in trouble I could get behind but that’s not what you implied. I’m still confused on why people are bringing up him being a star athlete like that somehow diminishes his families need for help.
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The point is if Joe Blow down the street is under similar circumstances and starts a Gofundme page, they are more likely to raise 27 bucks than $27K.
 
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Vols1891 said:
That’s what I was wondering. Although this is obviously a great cause, I could see Gofundme campaigns being a slippery slope when it comes to the NCAA.
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Just because a son goes to a certain college should not affect anyone from his family creating a GoFundme page for a cause. That would be ridiculous.
 
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