Everything that Andy said was right.
* Butch inherited a dumpster fire
* He recruited well enough to make Tennessee competitive again, week in and week out
* Tennessee has had back to back 9-win seasons
* There were a ton of injuries on defense last year
* There was some bad chemistry on last year's team
* The South Carolina game was inexcusable, no matter how you look at it
* The Vanderbilt game was also a head-scratcher
Georgia Tech is an eminently loseable game next year. If Butch drops that one, it could be a season of doom.
Big Steve I agree with everything you say but the main problem is those 9 win seasons should have easily been a 10 and 11 win season. Him losing to Florida in 2015 was inexcusable, him losing to SC and Vandy this past season was inexcusable as well. Tennessee should have been back to back SEC Champions and finished in the Top 10 2 years in a row. You can't lose games you're supposed to win
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"If Butch can't win the east this year, maybe he has reached his ceiling." While I think he's a year late, he does credit Butch with rebuilding the roster and getting them back to competing in average SEC games. Ok, great when does that translate into championship level football?
I think we should give him 2017 with the changes in the coaching staff.
I really think our defense will be vastly improved.
I just hope if its not working we dont start getting the excuses.
You include Florida 2015 as supposed to win? I just checked Odds Shark and the best Tennessee line was even, the best Florida line was 2.5.
Shouldn't have lost the lead we had, I agree!
But you're just making stuff up with the "was supposed to win"
I think we should give him 2017 with the changes in the coaching staff.
I really think our defense will be vastly improved.
I just hope if its not working we dont start getting the excuses.
I don't think that Debord's leaving bodes well. If he thought he was going to have evenn close to the success in 2017 with one of the new QBs, as he did with Dobbs in 2016, there's no reason to take a lateral move to Indiana, as we could have parlayed 2017 success into a substantial raise at UT. I think he got out while his numbers looked as good as they ever would under CBJ's offense.
As far as Shoop goes, the jury is still out. Even healthy, we struggled a lot, against a lot of teams. I hope the changes at DL, and DB are the keys to getting his system working at UT, but there's just too much unknown there to say for sure right now.
You include Florida 2015 as supposed to win? I just checked Odds Shark and the best Tennessee line was even, the best Florida line was 2.5.
Shouldn't have lost the lead we had, I agree!
But you're just making stuff up with the "was supposed to win"
Everything that Andy said was right.
* Butch inherited a dumpster fire
* He recruited well enough to make Tennessee competitive again, week in and week out
* Tennessee has had back to back 9-win seasons
* There were a ton of injuries on defense last year
* There was some bad chemistry on last year's team
* The South Carolina game was inexcusable, no matter how you look at it
* The Vanderbilt game was also a head-scratcher
It's all fine to tout 9-wins seasons, but when your conference record is 5-3 and 4-4, and some of that shine rubs off considering 3 of those 9 wins in 2016 were against, App State, Ohio, and TN Tech.
If we are winning 9 games a year, but still aren't even winning our division, much less competing for SEC championships, what's the point? If Butch's goal is winning championships, there's no path to the CFB playoffs that don't involve winning the SEC.