Empty Neyland Movement (#uncluttervolnation)

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Hubbard said:
So, when a fan base has their fits and a bad coach is hired, should these fans be held accountable for failing?

You are an idiot to believe bad behavior results in a good hire.
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new, not necessarily good/better. we are putting the 5 of clubs back and hoping for something better. Could we do worse? Of course. Odds are we won't.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
So, to all you people telling people not going to donate their tickets because the children might be the next Peyton, I'm going to assume you aren't going to the game either? You'd have to be a real piece of work to feel that way about the situation and then go to the game yourself and not give them to the kids.

I'll make this statement, if Clay Travis is correct and Butch is gone within 48 hours, I'll see that as a positive step. I'll buy 25 tickets and give them to children in my area who've never been to a game.
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Give them $20 each for snacks at the game too.
 
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GAVol said:
I can hear the postgame meeting now. " That buyout is just too bi....OH MY GOD! LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PETROS CHILI BOWL SALES!?! FIRE HIS ASS!!!"
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If every person inside Neyland spent $12, that would only be $1.2M dollars. The 2016 athletics revenue is $136M dollars.

Some people don't even use their brain, I swear... :thud:
 
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PowerSweep said:
They cannot impact in a significant way who is hired. You are correct..but they CAN impact the removal of a coach, which is the objective here. Stop saying otherwise. It makes you look ignorant.

It also has no lasting negative impact on the ut "brand", recruits, or recruitment of coaches that might come here.
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Firing a coach is the easy part. It just gives you a sense of retaliation.

Finding the right coach for the program is the trick. As you agree, this movement has no impact on getting the right coach.
 
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VEKZY said:
If every person inside Neyland spent $12, that would only be $1.2M dollars. The 2016 athletics revenue is $136M dollars.

Some people don't even use their brain, I swear... :thud:
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The football program gets to use 29 million of those dollars per year. If you think the AD is okay with losing a million dollars in revenue per game, I've got a bridge over on Gay Street for sale if you want it. Cheap.
 
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GAVol said:
I can hear the postgame meeting now. " That buyout is just too bi....OH MY GOD! LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PETROS CHILI BOWL SALES!?! FIRE HIS ASS!!!"
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Liked the post just because I learned I can say ASS without the stupid dollar signs :)
 
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VFL1800FPD said:
Well Bama fans did it, and look at Bama now....You cant say it hurt their program, can you?

UT can keep doing the same old stuff while we sink further and further into mediocrity. Seems like youre okay with that. No ones stopping you from going to the game. There will be plenty of chances for you to complain about the youngins standing up in front of you. Go enjoy yourself Hubbsie
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when did bama fans openly boycott games and call for a unified, organized movement to do so?
 
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JFreak said:
Butch is getting fired at the end of the season whether or not these 2,000 people show up to the game. So what is the victory?
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It was organized to get action. UT leaked a rumor about negotiating the buyout.

They won.

Now is the time to show up and get loud in support of UT or stay away in support of Butch.
 
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Hubbard said:
Firing a coach is the easy part. It just gives you a sense of retaliation.

Finding the right coach for the program is the trick. As you agree, this movement has no impact on getting the right coach.
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Retaliation? Expression of displeasure and insistence on making a change.

Strawman..no one is arguing they can impact who gets hired.
 
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PowerSweep said:
are you new to college football? You REALLY think fan support has no impact? Really?

If so you are more ignorant than stupid but you are probably both.

I just realized you are the tool that came on a message board to tell everyone you were a winner at life so probably both.
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"Rioting" and a "movement" to encourage other to not attend games and to publicly ridicule the program leadership is not fan support. If you think otherwise, you are confused.

Fan support is going to games and supporting an AD beyond the moment you want a coach fired. Fan support is loyalty to a program even in the hard times. That support is not "accepting mediocrity" as has been said. That support is not showing your butthurt when you are frustrated so that they can laugh at you.

The tough reality is that the AD will make a move when the big donors want a move to be made. You may not like to hear that and you may despise that but it does not change the fact.

Specifically, look what this AD has done since he has been here. His decisions have been made in support of the fans, the brand, and the programs.

Now ignore all of this truth, type some more emotional rant, make cute hashtags, and more of those type of real impactful and sacrificial efforts that is not remembered next month. It so much easier to pretend to be impactful than to earn that influence.
 
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ProudVOLfan said:
Fans that decide not to spend their money on tickets or whatever else ARE involved.
Not saying I agree with the 'movement' but if you want to make people in higher positions listen, you hit them where it hurts.
In this case that would be the bank!
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i agree, but in this case, the vast majority of the money is spent. save whatever unrelaized concession revenue.

so this movement, for this game, will have little effect on the actual pocket books of those they're thinking they're affecting.

it's an emotional reaction to make them think they have a role somewhere in this whole thing. that's it.
 
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PowerSweep said:
Retaliation? Expression of displeasure and insistence on making a change.

Strawman..no one is arguing they can impact who gets hired.
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To the contrary, the argument has been made that is how Saban was picked.

A firing does nothing good for a program without a hire that gets you where you want to be. Otherwise, we just repeat the process and demand accountability of everyone but ourselves and our behavior.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i agree, but in this case, the vast majority of the money is spent. save whatever unrelaized concession revenue.

so this movement, for this game, will have little effect on the actual pocket books of those they're thinking they're affecting.

it's an emotional reaction to make them think they have a role somewhere in this whole thing. that's it.
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It's a statement to get your act together administration or this is your future.

It's really not a hard concept to wrap your brain around.

But the people in charge at UT understand. That's all that counts.
 
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VolArmy74 said:
The football program gets to use 29 million of those dollars per year. If you think the AD is okay with losing a million dollars in revenue per game, I've got a bridge over on Gay Street for sale if you want it. Cheap.
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You clearly didn't read my post. That is if all 102,455 bought $12 worth of concessions. If you look at the athletic revenue breakdowns. "Event Revenues" accounts for a mere 5% of the income. $7.4M/ out of $136M. This is the total for the entire athletics department. How much you spend on hot dogs and t-shirts pales in comparison to donations, ESPN money, and ticket sales.
 
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PowerSweep said:
new, not necessarily good/better. we are putting the 5 of clubs back and hoping for something better. Could we do worse? Of course. Odds are we won't.
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That type of thinking gets you mediocrity.

A losing hand is a losing hand, even if the 5 becomes a 6 when other teams have the Royal Flush.

If the hire is not right, we are back to the movements, hashtags, hissy fits, and demands from the exact same bunch.

Perhaps it would be better understand the game and the strategy before pretending to sit at the table and yell "hit me".

This is what happens when you watch too much Texas Hold'm on TV and think you are a poker expert.
 
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Hubbard said:
To the contrary, the argument has been made that is how Saban was picked.

A firing does nothing good for a program without a hire that gets you where you want to be. Otherwise, we just repeat the process and demand accountability of everyone but ourselves and our behavior.
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Baloney..no one is saying they forced Saban's hiring..their lack of support for Shula DID get him fired.

Act like an adult and don't use a childish word like "butthurt". What are you, a high school kid?
 
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vols1707 said:
It's a statement to get your act together administration or this is your future.

It's really not a hard concept to wrap your brain around.

But the people in charge at UT understand. That's all that counts.
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they more than likely do. but it has nothing to do with this at all.

CBJ's body of work speaks for itself, and it's not done talking.

and that will have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy more to do with what happens next, than anything done on twitter.
 
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