Dylan Sampson pushing for RB1 job in Cleveland

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I have no animosity towards the Browns. It’s just the results.
You do know the last time Titans played the Browns they got their tails kicked? 27-3 and the Browns finished 11-6 and Titans 6-11. They both sucked out loud last year and had same record but Titans were worse because they lost to worse teams hence number 1 pick. I love my Titans but like the Browns they are terribly ran, Ward might be ok but I’m not a firm believer in him. I’m afraid he will be a turnover machine and it’ll be a wasted pick. At least they can fight it out this year because they play each other again and see who reigns supreme in their suckitude.
 
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You do know the last time Titans played the Browns they got their tails kicked? 27-3 and the Browns finished 11-6 and Titans 6-11. They both sucked out loud last year and had same record but Titans were worse because they lost to worse teams hence number 1 pick. I love my Titans but like the Browns they are terribly ran, Ward might be ok but I’m not a firm believer in him. I’m afraid he will be a turnover machine and it’ll be a wasted pick. At least they can fight it out this year because they play each other again and see who reigns supreme in their suckitude.
…wow. 👀
 
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He ran for another 1k yards—and flashier yards. The difference between the conferences is obvious. To everyone else, that additional 1k yards and the style in which they were achieved is what won their vote. Point is, regardless of the nuances you don’t have that type of thing happen often and most other years, Sampson gets the nod hands down. Tennessee or not.
He had a great season. My point is he ran for all those yards because of the competition. Easier runs equal bigger plays and less wear and tear. If you put him on any SEC team you're looking at another 1200-1500 yd RB. Still a good season, but there are plenty of RBs over the years that didn't have as many yards that I'd say were better.
 
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He had a great season. My point is he ran for all those yards because of the competition. Easier runs equal bigger plays and less wear and tear. If you put him on any SEC team you're looking at another 1200-1500 yd RB. Still a good season, but there are plenty of RBs over the years that didn't have as many yards that I'd say were better.
I'm never really certain why talking about one player so often needs to be at the expense of another but there seems little logical reason to pointing out that Sampson having a very good season that needs to unhappen the season Jeanty had last year. Nobody, nobody, up to and including Jeanty's own family, believes he played a schedule that compares directly with other P4 backs. That doesn't unhappen that he'd have still led the nation in rushing if you only counted yards after contact. (that's probably worth reading twice)

It's fair to consider the competition level but it's not all encompassing because it's not just about yards. In '22 the nations top 3 (3!) leading rushers weren't in the running for any major awards. The reason is exactly what those citing the competition level argue. It didn't work on Jeanty because his production level was way above the grading curve even with the competition level considered. It wasn't just yards and tds either as the tape agreed with the other assessments. If that weren't the case the NFL wouldn't have thought so much of him since in the final analysis they're trying to get the best player available for their position and college production box scores only tell part of the story and they are fully aware of that being the case.

Some people have also tried to dunk on Jeanty because of the PSt game. The box score alone might lean that way but no other portion of the observation does. Many would argue Boise shouldn't even have been in the playoffs in the first place. Outside of Jeanty what other P4 players are even on their roster? PSt had a massive talent advantage on the lines so despite Jeanty having something silly, like a .6 yards before contact average per rush for the game, he still had something like 19 broken tackles. (this from memory per PFF) They sold out on stopping Jeanty to the point their QB broke 300y passing for only the 2nd time all season, the only other time being San Diego St. One play famously had Jeanty splitting out to the right and you say PSt shift 3, yes 3, players out with him just on his motion.

Jeanty had a historic college football season a year ago and we'll all wait and see what he does at the next level which is it's own story and completely separate from what Sampson will/won't do after having his own very nice college season.
 
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I'm never really certain why talking about one player so often needs to be at the expense of another but there seems little logical reason to pointing out that Sampson having a very good season that needs to unhappen the season Jeanty had last year. Nobody, nobody, up to and including Jeanty's own family, believes he played a schedule that compares directly with other P4 backs. That doesn't unhappen that he'd have still led the nation in rushing if you only counted yards after contact. (that's probably worth reading twice)

It's fair to consider the competition level but it's not all encompassing because it's not just about yards. In '22 the nations top 3 (3!) leading rushers weren't in the running for any major awards. The reason is exactly what those citing the competition level argue. It didn't work on Jeanty because his production level was way above the grading curve even with the competition level considered. It wasn't just yards and tds either as the tape agreed with the other assessments. If that weren't the case the NFL wouldn't have thought so much of him since in the final analysis they're trying to get the best player available for their position and college production box scores only tell part of the story and they are fully aware of that being the case.

Some people have also tried to dunk on Jeanty because of the PSt game. The box score alone might lean that way but no other portion of the observation does. Many would argue Boise shouldn't even have been in the playoffs in the first place. Outside of Jeanty what other P4 players are even on their roster? PSt had a massive talent advantage on the lines so despite Jeanty having something silly, like a .6 yards before contact average per rush for the game, he still had something like 19 broken tackles. (this from memory per PFF) They sold out on stopping Jeanty to the point their QB broke 300y passing for only the 2nd time all season, the only other time being San Diego St. One play famously had Jeanty splitting out to the right and you say PSt shift 3, yes 3, players out with him just on his motion.

Jeanty had a historic college football season a year ago and we'll all wait and see what he does at the next level which is it's own story and completely separate from what Sampson will/won't do after having his own very nice college season.
When there are people who literally try to spin the narrative and say you're the greatest RB since Barry Sanders, or you get a ton of media hype and everyone acts like you're head and shoulders above everyone else, you'll have that. Same thing happens with Deion, Shedeur, LeBron, etc.
 
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He had a great season. My point is he ran for all those yards because of the competition. Easier runs equal bigger plays and less wear and tear. If you put him on any SEC team you're looking at another 1200-1500 yd RB. Still a good season, but there are plenty of RBs over the years that didn't have as many yards that I'd say were better.
Yes, I understand that. However, that didn’t seem to matter. I don’t think the fact he was at Tennessee had anything to do with that.
 
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When there are people who literally try to spin the narrative and say you're the greatest RB since Barry Sanders, or you get a ton of media hype and everyone acts like you're head and shoulders above everyone else, you'll have that. Same thing happens with Deion, Shedeur, LeBron, etc.

I mean he did have the most rushing yards in a season since Barry Sanders. That’s a fact, not a narrative.

I don’t think anyone was saying he was the best RB since Barry. There have been 7 RBs win the Heisman since Barry. Jeanty isn’t one of them.
 
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