Drastic action needed on Ebola

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hog88 said:
DDT had it pretty much wiped out.
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Actually mosquitoes were developing widespread resistance to DDT even before the agricultural ban. In fact today we wouldn't be able to use DDT to fight malaria at all if not for the ban
 
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BartW said:
Actually mosquitoes were developing widespread resistance to DDT even before the agricultural ban. In fact today we wouldn't be able to use DDT to fight malaria at all if not for the ban
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We?

Explain
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Global warming alarmist , pretty well sums it up.
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He's googling now I promise.

He doesn't know crap about agriculture other than the books he has read. I lived it. I use to put stuff out that made the ground glow in the 90's. Had to wear a bio-suit to do so.
 
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Obsessed said:
He's googling now I promise.

He doesn't know crap about agriculture other than the books he has read. I lived it. I use to put stuff out that made the ground glow in the 90's. Had to wear a bio-suit to do so.
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DDT was much safer to handle than what replaced it.
 
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Wat?

Mosquito Resistance

The WHO gave up on their global malaria eradication program in 1969 due to widespread resistance, years before everyone banned it for agricultural purposes.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Standard operating procedure. Just being cautious. The general public cannot handle knowing all the info. Too many stupid people who would freak out over nothing.
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It just seems amazingly careless to me. I don't think I fall into the "freaking out" category just yet, but I do see cause for concern. Apparently, cases have doubled in the last three weeks, and the traditional means of control are not working.

Ebola Outbreak Doubles In 3 Weeks, WHO Warns "Conventional Means Of Control Not Working" | Zero Hedge

If it continues to double every three weeks, it could get out of hand fast.

Also, it concerns me that so many doctors and other medical professionals have caught it. I don't think that has been the case in previous outbreaks. It definitely suggests airborne potential. Under the circumstances, it seems incredibly stipid to ship those who have been exposed back to the U.S., especially in secrecy.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
It just seems amazingly careless to me. I don't think I fall into the "freaking out" category just yet, but I do see cause for concern. Apparently, cases have doubled in the last three weeks, and the traditional means of control are not working.

Ebola Outbreak Doubles In 3 Weeks, WHO Warns "Conventional Means Of Control Not Working" | Zero Hedge

If it continues to double every three weeks, it could get out of hand fast.

Also, it concerns me that so many doctors and other medical professionals have caught it. I don't think that has been the case in previous outbreaks. It definitely suggests airborne potential. Under the circumstances, it seems incredibly stipid to ship those who have been exposed back to the U.S., especially in secrecy.
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You don't think it's spreading fast because most Africans don't believe ebola is actually real? Then you got them actually attacking quarantine locations to free those infected inside, it's madness. Just watch this;

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-JZEaeOmfE#t=36[/youtube]

This man just escapes the quarantine center he was at. I just don't get it, if I had a disease like that and I knew I could cause people to get infected I'd suck it up and rather die in isolation than potentially kill hundreds or thousands of other innocent people.
 
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Burhead said:
You don't think it's spreading fast because most Africans don't believe ebola is actually real? Then you got them actually attacking quarantine locations to free those infected inside, it's madness.
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I have no doubt that's part of the problem, but I doubt it's the entirety of the problem. And don't you think some Americans would act in a similar fashion? Refusing to go to hospitals, certain that there's no way they have ebola, in the meantime infecting who knows how many people? I don't think that kind of response would be limited to Africa.

Burhead said:
This man just escapes the quarantine center he was at. I just don't get it, if I had a disease like that and I knew I could cause people to get infected I'd suck it up and rather die in isolation than potentially kill hundreds or thousands of other innocent people.
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Everyone would probably like to think that, but you don't think someone in the USofA could act the same way? I mean this is just one guy. Most people, even in Africa, don't act that way. Most Americans probably wouldn't either, but you're crazy if you don't think it's possible for some first-world person to do something just like that.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
It just seems amazingly careless to me. I don't think I fall into the "freaking out" category just yet, but I do see cause for concern. Apparently, cases have doubled in the last three weeks, and the traditional means of control are not working.

Ebola Outbreak Doubles In 3 Weeks, WHO Warns "Conventional Means Of Control Not Working" | Zero Hedge

If it continues to double every three weeks, it could get out of hand fast.

Also, it concerns me that so many doctors and other medical professionals have caught it. I don't think that has been the case in previous outbreaks. It definitely suggests airborne potential. Under the circumstances, it seems incredibly stipid to ship those who have been exposed back to the U.S., especially in secrecy.
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It is nowhere near airborne. Believe it or not, Ebola is more difficult to contract than you think. Think about it. Ebola is tearing through these areas of clustered populations. Yet have killed less than 3000.

No its not stupid to send those exposed back here. Thats an incredibly stupid and heartless thing to say. So far the 3 people we know of are doing well. We have the facilities to treat those who have been exposed. The outbreak is already out of hand in the sense of the African people are not doing their part to help fight the outbreak. The main reasons the healthcare professionals and doctors are getting it are the equipment, facilities and resources available. They simply don't have enough of what they need.
 
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Burhead said:
H5N1 could also mutate to being easily transmitted by human to human transmission. There are probably hundreds of other viruses and diseases that could mutate and frick the world over. It's just right now ebola is the "in" thing to discuss right now.
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I know that of the 2, I'd much rather catch bird flu than the Ebola virus. Something about my innards liquefying while I bleed from my mouth and butt seems to bit more scary. Also, when you compare the fatality rates of the 2 then you probably begin to understand why it isn't simply the "in" thing to discuss.
 
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davethevol said:
I know that of the 2, I'd much rather catch bird flu than the Ebola virus. Something about my innards liquefying while I bleed from my mouth and butt seems to bit more scary. Also, when you compare the fatality rates of the 2 then you probably begin to understand why it isn't simply the "in" thing to discuss.
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You know H1N1 killed between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide in 2009? Ebola has killed around 4,000 people since it's discovery in 1976. The 2009 flu season killed more people than in ebola's entire history in one year. I'd be more worried about another global pandemic flu before I started worrying about ebola.
 
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So I guess the U.S. State Department has decided it needs 160,000 ebola-proof hazmat suits:

Lakeland Industries launches hazmat suits for Ebola - Awesome Capital

"With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health."

Nice.
 
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Burhead said:
You know H1N1 killed between 8,870 and 18,300 deaths in the United States and up to 203,000 deaths worldwide in 2009? Ebola has killed around 4,000 people since it's discovery in 1976. The 2009 flu season killed more people than in ebola's entire history in one year. I'd be more worried about another global pandemic flu before I started worrying about ebola.
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And yet the death rate from the 2009 epidemic was less than 3%. 2009 flu pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now try explaining to me again which disease is more scary.
 
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davethevol said:
And yet the death rate from the 2009 epidemic was less than 3%. 2009 flu pandemic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now try explaining to me again which disease is more scary.
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I'm not disputing that it's "scary", I'm saying ebola is one virus that isn't likely to cause a global pandemic and kill millions. Why? Because it's not easily transmitted and has yet to spread outside of Africa in it's entire existence. I think everyone is pretty much in agreement that it will only get worse before it gets better but you won't see such an outbreak in the States, Canada, Europe, or Australia/New Zealand.
 
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