Drastic action needed on Ebola

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PKT_VOL said:
All about perspective. If you are promiscuous, HIV. If you live in West Africa, Ebola. If you are old or young, SARS.

A normal healthy, middle-aged adult who isn't promiscuous or lives in West Africa, none of the above.
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Young, promiscuous and in Liberia = good luck.
 
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It appears that they are monitoring/tracking 80+ people exposed to ebola by the guy in Dallas:

"In a clarification of earlier reports, Dallas County Health and Human Services spokeswoman Erikka Neroes says the Ebola contact investigation has grown 'to more than 80' people, which includes the 12 to 18 people who 1st came into contact with the infected man, as well as others they in turn had contact with; she was unable to specify how those initial people came in contact with the larger group."

For those who think I'm offering "situations that have not happened yet to springboard a fear campaign", here's a link: Breaking news on Ebola outbreak 2014 - breakingnews.com
 
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rjd970 said:
Watched an interview with a infectious disease doctor. Apparently this can only be spread by direct contact with bodily fluids (saliva, mucas, blood, etc). Quarantine of any known cases should be pretty effective. Even this doctor said in a developed country like the US the chance of a widespread pandemic is almost zero.
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Except the problem is quarantining them before they infect others
 
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It's nice to have some sane reporting when it comes to ish like this:

A new study in the journal PLoS Currents Outbreaks calculates that there is an 18 percent chance that a case of Ebola will arrive in the United States by the end of this month. The researchers inputed airline travel data and various outbreak scenarios into a computer model to come up with probabilty figures for the arrival of Ebola in 16 different countries. Is it time to panic? Absolutely not. The researchers also report that the likelihood that the disease would spread extensively in developed countries is tiny:

We observe that the expected value of the cluster size in the case of international spread is always rather small (in all countries mean<6; median<4). Large outbreak involving more than 10 individuals although potentially possible can be considered as very rare events (Detailed statistics per country are available upon request). This numerical evidence is good news, as it points out that effective management and isolation of cases is keeping the number of EVD (Ebola) cases to deal with to a very limited number, lowering the risk of losing control of the outbreak.

In other words, the number of people likely to be infected through contact with a person bringing Ebola to our shores maxes out at around 10 individuals.
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First Ebola Case in U.S. Confirmed. Don't Panic! - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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lawgator1 said:
Maxes out at 10 ....

Does their scenario include a hospital turning a symptomatic patient away for about 3 days ?

Doubt it.
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I would imagine their model doesn't just forecast the results of perfect procedure. I would assume it averages risk across a variety of scenarios. There is no point in limiting the report to best case scenario and saying we have nothing to worry about. Reason.com has nothing to gain by doing that.

In fact, I bet you would expect a libertarian/anarcho-capitalism media outlet to be doomsdayers, would you not?
 
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Velo Vol said:
Shhhh.

People need something to freak out about . . . and blame on Obama.
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Dude Your Hero said a week ago that the possibility of Ebola coming here was remote. Two days later it arrived in Dallas. In addition, travel hasn't been restricted from these countries , it's actually been encouraged
 
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Personally, I'm hard pressed to take any comfort from a computer model of anything. As I've said, I don't think it's quite time to panic, but this particular case has encountered several mis-steps along the way, and now there is another potential case in Hawaii. I'm sure these won't be the last cases, either, with air travel remaining unrestricted. How the hell long is that going to continue? If the reaction to ebola doesn't quickly ramp up in terms of both quality and quantity, we could have a serious problem on our hands.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Dude Your Hero said a week ago that the possibility of Ebola coming here was remote. Two days later it arrived in Dallas. In addition, travel hasn't been restricted from these countries , it's actually been encouraged
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Given the transmission vectors and the fact that Ebola isn't an airborne disease, a widespread breakout in the US is highly unlikely.

Again, don't panic.
 
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jamesd1628 said:
It appears that they are monitoring/tracking 80+ people exposed to ebola by the guy in Dallas:

"In a clarification of earlier reports, Dallas County Health and Human Services spokeswoman Erikka Neroes says the Ebola contact investigation has grown 'to more than 80' people, which includes the 12 to 18 people who 1st came into contact with the infected man, as well as others they in turn had contact with; she was unable to specify how those initial people came in contact with the larger group."

For those who think I'm offering "situations that have not happened yet to springboard a fear campaign", here's a link: Breaking news on Ebola outbreak 2014 - breakingnews.com
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As far as I know, this won't affect the NFL in any way so nothing else matters...
 
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MG1968 said:
Given the transmission vectors and the fact that Ebola isn't an airborne disease, a widespread breakout in the US is highly unlikely.

Again, don't panic.
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I'm not panicking but I certainly have 0 confidence in our govt. We stop flights to Isreal b/c of threats but we won't stop flights from west Africa? Makes zero sense
 
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Dude just showed up in our country. Customs just let him walk in. He vomited in an apartment complex and rode in an ambulance. Did he vomit in the ambulance? Who cleaned that up? Who rode in the ambulance afterward?
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Dude just showed up in our country. Customs just let him walk in. He vomited in an apartment complex and rode in an ambulance. Did he vomit in the ambulance? Who cleaned that up? Who rode in the ambulance afterward?
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CNN just had a story where Anderson Cooper reported on a telephone conversation with the partner of the Ebola patient in Dallas. She is finally under some sort of quarantine at her apartment. But she told Cooper that her partners bed sheets were still on the bed and that somebody had brought her some bleach by her apartment to disinfect it. You have to be kidding me! They get 14 hazmat teams out if they even suspect a meth lab was ever at a place. And this is what they do about Ebola? Guess which stock I am buying today.
 
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And so the original 80+ contacts I posted about earlier has gone up to 100+, and could rise every day as they figure out other potential contacts (from this source: There). If even one of those 100+ people comes down with ebola, then damn.
 
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