Dooley: Timeout guru

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vol-n-ms said:
ref was blowing it dead already. Also after calling the to dooley could have advised the ref it was a to to challenge the call on the field. Refs get the call right and to is returned to ut. I believe i (and the rest of the ut fans) have a right to criticize. Having the to would completely change the play calling when we get the ball back.
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amen
 
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Vol-n-MS said:
Ref was blowing it dead already. Also after calling the TO Dooley could have advised the ref it was a TO to challenge the call on the field. Refs get the call right and TO is returned to UT. I believe I (and the rest of the UT fans) have a right to criticize. Having the TO would completely change the play calling when we get the ball back.
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I don't. It was close but I don't think replay would have overturned Shaw going out. That is not a reason we lost. You can blame Dooley on a lot of things but not that.

BTW ref was not blowing it dead. It was clear that he wound the clock and Dooley had to call TO.
 
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bentenn said:
He didnt call a timeout? Dumb thread
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yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
 
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VolGee4 said:
I don't. It was close but I don't think replay would have overturned Shaw going out. That is not a reason we lost. You can blame Dooley on a lot of things but not that.

BTW ref was not blowing it dead. It was clear that he wound the clock and Dooley had to call TO.
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Did you see the chalk. That's so obvious. The chalk practically hit him in the face.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
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Because we have passed it well all game. Why stop?
 
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Fijivol72 said:
yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
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Ehh you would of whined because he let off the gas and didn't go for a win. You play to win, not to tie. And chip shot? With Palardy? Hahaha
 
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Burger said:
Did you see the chalk. That's so obvious. The chalk practically hit him in the face.
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From the foot or the dive? His foot was close and his right elbow hit in on the dive. I just don't agree that it was a 100% that it would be overturned. That is not the reason we lost.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
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I wish you'd GTFO of America. JMO.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
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the thread first said " I found out why Dooley didn't call a timeout:" it got edited
 
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ZZ13 said:
Correct. There were four meaningful bonehead plays by the officials. Weren't the reason we lost but made it tougher.

1. Intentional ground not called
2. Lattimore fumbled on his injury play - we picked it up and scored.
3. Receiver dropped the ball at the one yard line just before the half.
4. Shaw stepped out of bounds at the end of the game
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What about the horsecoller call that negated a turnover by SC right before the non call for intentional grounding? That to me was the biggest bad call of the day and i knew it cost us in the end.

I mean we had our chances to win in the end but man the refs made it harder to win.
 
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Fijivol72 said:
yes he sure as hell did. He is simply put a loser. why even put the ball in the air when we had a chip shot to ties the game. Give the players a chance, run it a couple of times then pass it before kicking the chip shot. Get out of Knoxville Dooley!
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That's just dumb as hell. Run it a couple of times and then pass? Regardless of whether you you pass on 1st or 3rd the same thing could have happened. Playing for a fg there would have been the worst possible thing you could do. You should have just lost your right to ever complain about Dooley's coaching.
 
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ZZ13 said:
Correct. There were four meaningful bonehead plays by the officials. Weren't the reason we lost but made it tougher.

1. Intentional ground not called
2. Lattimore fumbled on his injury play - we picked it up and scored.
3. Receiver dropped the ball at the one yard line just before the half.
4. Shaw stepped out of bounds at the end of the game
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5. Fumble on the questionable horse collar.
6. Horse Collar not called on Clowney tackle.
etc.
etc.
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2 was not a fumble

3. Did not look like he did made 2 moves so if he did the it was a fumble,

4. That's on Dooley right on top of it and should have challenged, that is his issue


I think we can all agree. It's time to move on
 
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ZZ13 said:
Correct. There were four meaningful bonehead plays by the officials. Weren't the reason we lost but made it tougher.

1. Intentional ground not called
2. Lattimore fumbled on his injury play - we picked it up and scored.
3. Receiver dropped the ball at the one yard line just before the half.
4. Shaw stepped out of bounds at the end of the game
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How many plays did Dooley challenge?
 
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As time was winding down with one and two minutes to go i felt like Vols would manage screw it up. With just over a minute to go all Tenn had to do is run MLane a few more times. Bray had a great statistical game but seems like he can never produce in clutch.

I am amazed DDooley manages to find his way to and from work each day.
 
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vols-1 said:
How many plays did Dooley challenge?
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In college a coach should not have to challenge unless there is a hurry up. They review every play. That is what makes me so frustrated with college. Plays are made incorrectly and not overturned.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
2 was not a fumble

3. Did not look like he did made 2 moves so if he did the it was a fumble,

4. That's on Dooley right on top of it and should have challenged, that is his issue


I think we can all agree. It's time to move on
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I think anyone would agree if Gruden would actually come here, and we can afford it, you make that hire. Honestly, I think Dooley could end up being a great coach, but he was hired in a bad spot and at the wrong time in his career.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I don't. It was close but I don't think replay would have overturned Shaw going out. That is not a reason we lost. You can blame Dooley on a lot of things but not that.

BTW ref was not blowing it dead. It was clear that he wound the clock and Dooley had to call TO.
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I agree with u on the following:
1. It did not cost us the game.
2. Dooley had to call the TO.

I don't agree with u on the following:
1. Your assumption that the play would not have been overturned. Shaw was clearly out when he dove forward and his foot hit the line and kicked up chalk.
2. Your claim that It was not clear that the ref was immediately winding the clock....The ref blew the whistle and was waving his hands over his head which is a signal for the clock to stop.

You are clearly missing the big picture here....Dooley is responsible for managing the game and as a result has an obligation to understand the rules (including how to handle a challenge). By calling the TO AND not discussing the challenge with the ref, he effectively wasted the TO. If Dooley would have lost the challenge, the outcome would have been the same as not challenging at all (TO charged to UT with 0 remaining). Challenging at least gave him a chance to save the TO.

Also, the TO prob wouldn't have won the game. However, it would open up the playbook. Without the TO we were limited to deep sideline routes which are easy to defend.

Sorry for the long post, but the blind and oblivious Dooley supporters seem to need a detailed explanation of his failures as a coach.
 
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Vol-n-MS said:
I agree with u on the following:
1. It did not cost us the game.
2. Dooley had to call the TO.

I don't agree with u on the following:
1. Your assumption that the play would not have been overturned. Shaw was clearly out when he dove forward and his foot hit the line and kicked up chalk.
2. Your claim that It was not clear that the ref was immediately winding the clock....The ref blew the whistle and was waving his hands over his head which is a signal for the clock to stop.

You are clearly missing the big picture here....Dooley is responsible for managing the game and as a result has an obligation to understand the rules (including how to handle a challenge). By calling the TO AND not discussing the challenge with the ref, he effectively wasted the TO. If Dooley would have lost the challenge, the outcome would have been the same as not challenging at all (TO charged to UT with 0 remaining). Challenging at least gave him a chance to save the TO.

Also, the TO prob wouldn't have won the game. However, it would open up the playbook. Without the TO we were limited to deep sideline routes which are easy to defend.

Sorry for the long post, but the blind and oblivious Dooley supporters seem to need a detailed explanation of his failures as a coach.
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Sorry but I am not a Dooley supporter. Once again, just lead to conclusions. I will take Gruden tomorrow. However I don't agree with criticizing every move someone makes and piling on. You make a fair point asking for a challenge after calling the TO. However you are wrong about the official. I saw it live and on replay. He winds the clock immediately and we called TO right away because Dooley saw the winding call. It happened fast but it was clear. Dooley would not have called the TO if he had seen the timeout call.
 
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