Dooley on Basilio

#26
#26
Is it possible Chaney and Dooley will compare to Cutcliffe and Fulmer? Everybody knew the brains of the offensive unit was all Cut and the best approach for Fulmer was to be quiet and watch.
 
#27
#27
IMO, he's talking about process because it wouldn't be very popular to blurt out the truth and say, "We're probably going to struggle in the near term due to the coaching transition and lack of talent, so we need to be focused on doing things right so that the wins will come later."

Exactly what I was thinking.
 
#28
#28
All I know is after the contract you just signed either way everyone feels about DD get use to him for atleast 4 years if not the full 5 because it is gonna cost each side to much to drop the other. I feel like he will get the full contract length to get this team going either way.


Rusty
 
#29
#29
IMO, he's talking about process because it wouldn't be very popular to blurt out the truth and say, "We're probably going to struggle in the near term due to the coaching transition and lack of talent, so we need to be focused on doing things right so that the wins will come later."
Bingo.
 
#30
#30
I think the CDD "process" is much more in-depth than most will understand and it's a systematic process from day 1 of the kid hitting the UT campus.

He's concerned about taking 17 & 18 year old kids and working on their character and attitudes right from day 1 on campus.

Many of these kids have never been even taught right from wrong, winning, successful mental attitudes from defeatist, loser attitudes.

Doing good things in their spare time from thug life which is what many have only known all their lives.

Teaching them that they are students 1st and must attend all classes, manage their time correctly, get their homework and studying in to make the grades to stay on the football team.

Teaching them all the different people and options available to help them with every situation they can come across.

Teaching them that they must be on time for team meetings, weightlifting, film study, ect.

A complete process to turn a boy into a man as fast as possible that will be dedicated, commited and will be expected to maintain a certail level of excellence at everything they do and that knows they're accountable for every action on or off the field.

A solid "process" like that will make better people and students out of all of them and that will transition right onto the football field too.

Most nowdays go to college hoping to make it to the NFL but CDD is going to show them real quickly that it's going to take lots of time, work and commitment just to make it onto the field in the tough SEC as a started first.

I like what CDD & company are doing so far.

GO BIG ORANGE !!!
 
#31
#31
about the process thing; does Dooleys comments suggest he is not overly impressed with the team he has on the field, at this point, or is he just realistic about the level of the teams we will be playing, or maybe both?
 
#32
#32
Actually, Kiffin use to say something similar. He would always state, "I'm not going to tell you how many wins we'll have this season, or next. The wins will come. It's a process."

So in that regard, CDD isn't saying anything outlandish.
 
#33
#33
Actually, Kiffin use to say something similar. He would always state, "I'm not going to tell you how many wins we'll have this season, or next. The wins will come. It's a process."

So in that regard, CDD isn't saying anything outlandish.

the comments of CLK and CDD have nothing in common
 
#34
#34
about the process thing; does Dooleys comments suggest he is not overly impressed with the team he has on the field, at this point, or is he just realistic about the level of the teams we will be playing, or maybe both?

point, having come from la.tech and now being at UT. If he's a Saban protege--meaning tough-minded, old-school football--I think I'm OK with that since Saban surprised me by winning a national title with that old smash-mouth approach. But if you want to play smash-mouth, you'd better be good at it--tough running, tough defense, very physical--or you'll never beat florida. That was the problem with Fulmer: he still essentially wanted to play smash-mouth in his later years, but the running game and blocking were not good enough.
 
#35
#35
the comments of CLK and CDD have nothing in common

I', calling BS on this one. The too coaches said almost exactly the same thing. Paraphrasing: If you put in the work to play good football and improve, the winning takes care of itself.

Also, as to the poster who said that the predecessor "would've been successful sooner," I disagree. I think CDD will have as many or more wins this year than the team had last year. However, I don't have a crystal ball, and we will see.

I like this new staff infinitely more than the rag tag bunch of mercenaries we had last year that were selling UT's soul to the devil-- and the NCAA.
 
#36
#36
I just listened to the interview. I like our coach.

There is something, however, that I'm not that excited about. Coach Dooley has consistently talked about developing a "philosophy" and implementing a "process." In this interview, he went a step further. He said that he doesn't worry about the wins or losses, he is concerned mainly to implement a process. If that is done successfully, says coach, the wins will be a "byproduct of the process."

I kinda get that, but, as an athlete and a competitor, I don't like the approach. In my opinion, you absolutely focus on winning. Winning and the desire to win are what dictate any good process- not the other way round. The process, in other words, should be a byproduct of an intense desire to win.

I'm sure our coach understands that and has his reasons to focus on his "process," but I wish he sounded more like a winner. Then again, Nick Saban doesn't much sound like a winner, he simply is one. Thoughts?

I'm not in love with the way he said it but giving him the benefit of the doubt....

It may just be another way of saying he wants to develop a winning culture. If you demand excellence out of your processes (recruiting, facilities, S&C, practice, academics, etc) then wins become the product of the process.
 
#37
#37
about the process thing; does Dooleys comments suggest he is not overly impressed with the team he has on the field, at this point, or is he just realistic about the level of the teams we will be playing, or maybe both?

To me it says that he's not satisfied with the level of excellence in the way things are done within the program. DD just has a lawyerly way of saying things.
 
#38
#38
Thanks for posting the interview link. Any news is welcomed.
 
#39
#39
and that is Nick Saban. You can learn, you can watch and take notes but trying to be someone else is just smoke and mirrors. I love Warren Buffet, can I follow his exact strategy and become a billionaire? Same concept with Dooley, he will ultimately have to stand on his own regardless of who's persona he emulates. All this process bs is just that unless he can recruit and that jury is still out bigtime...
 
#40
#40
Dooley needs to convince the players his philosophy will work. It's a little tougher sale coming from La Tech.
 
#41
#41
and that is Nick Saban. You can learn, you can watch and take notes but trying to be someone else is just smoke and mirrors. I love Warren Buffet, can I follow his exact strategy and become a billionaire? Same concept with Dooley, he will ultimately have to stand on his own regardless of who's persona he emulates. All this process bs is just that unless he can recruit and that jury is still out bigtime...

In response to the bold: Hell yes. If you had the money, Berkshire Hathaway and other quality investments would take care of that eventually.

In response to the underlined portion: You need to go check out the recruiting board. Many very talented prospects have us listed as favorite or leaders at the moment. Coach Dooley and his staff look to be doing just fine in the recruiting department. Whether that will translate into wins or not is yet to be seen. But I sure as hell am gonna support our coach instead of pointing out his flaws.
 
#42
#42
In response to the bold: Hell yes. If you had the money, Berkshire Hathaway and other quality investments would take care of that eventually.

In response to the underlined portion: You need to go check out the recruiting board. Many very talented prospects have us listed as favorite or leaders at the moment. Coach Dooley and his staff look to be doing just fine in the recruiting department. Whether that will translate into wins or not is yet to be seen. But I sure as hell am gonna support our coach instead of pointing out his flaws.

Hey, NTVC, you will learn that reason and logic have no place on this board. Regrettably, negativity rules.

It works like this. The majority looks for any quote or circumstance they can find, and then they parse it to death until they can squeeze something negative out of it.
 
#43
#43
and that is Nick Saban. You can learn, you can watch and take notes but trying to be someone else is just smoke and mirrors. I love Warren Buffet, can I follow his exact strategy and become a billionaire? Same concept with Dooley, he will ultimately have to stand on his own regardless of who's persona he emulates. All this process bs is just that unless he can recruit and that jury is still out bigtime...

So you're saying Dooley is finally winning you over?
 
#44
#44
Kiffin also said that he wasn't promising wins and that he would promise that we would outwork everybody and that would translate to results on the field.

How is that different than what Dooley said?
 
#45
#45
CDD and CLK may be saying the same things, but CDD has not p_ssed off as many people in the process. :eek:k:
 
#46
#46
Kiffin also said that he wasn't promising wins and that he would promise that we would outwork everybody and that would translate to results on the field.

How is that different than what Dooley said?

Obviously it's different because Kiffin had "swagger"
 
#47
#47
it seems that alot of people think that Dooley tries to emulate Nick Saban when he sets a policy or answers a question but i dont really see it. Dooley seems plenty confident in himself. is it hard to understand that he would run his program in the same manner that he was successful in as a staff member? did Kiffin not bring the same program style that he was familiar with at USC? open practices? shirt ripping?
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#48
#48
Negative people rule on this board. All of these interviews are full of coach speak and while they are not totally meaningless, you have to read between the lines. Of course the process is important, but if you believe winning right away is not important I've got some ocean front property........etc, etc..... The coach can say anything he wants, but he still is putting a program together, developing players and recruiting the next class. Come September, he will be game planning to WIN and busting butts to WIN on game day.
 
#49
#49
If you read or study successful people you'll discover that the quickest way to failure is to focus on the end result.
A good baseball player doesn't think about getting hits. He focuses on staying back, getting his hands through the zone. The hits come as a result.
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#50
#50
I understand what you are saying but you dont win unless you have a top notch process. Its hard to wind just going out and running around.


Rusty

Agreed. See John Calipari, sign great one and done players, get lots of wins, lose in Elite 8, and then lose 8 players, and have NO foundation to fall back on. You build the foundation first, and the wins will be the by product.
 

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