Dooley = Genuis?

#101
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'Boro-vol said:
If we wait until the end of season to announce a change, we've waited too long, and the Sunshine Dumpers will be correct.....it will hurt recruiting and set us back. Still needs to happen though.....Dooley is not HC material.

The sooner the better.
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You know what makes me laugh? People like you saying that Dooley is not head coaching material. The fact that you think you can evaluate what a coach is supposed to be at a major D-1 school is hilarious. Answer these questions for me:

1. Are you inside the locker room with the team? Do you know how Dooley talks to the team? Do you know the morale of the players?

2. Are you at the practices? Do you know how hard the guys are working?

3. Are you in the war room? Do you know how these coaches prepare for games? Can you compare it to other D-1 coaches that have success?

Because, I think you just speculate and talk down to anyone who disagrees with you. I think maybe you played in high school, maybe a small college somewhere, and you think you have this awesome extensive knowledge of how football should be, when really you are just a guy on a message board behind an alias talking bad about something about which you know nothing.

I don't know if Dooley is the right guy, I've stated that several times, but I'm willing to wait until at least the end of the season before I start evaluating the situation. I just read the things you negas say and shake my head.
 
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Great post op. You found a way to get every single loud mouthed hater to hate. They know why they do it and honestly they find enjoyment in it. Just read the replys, they're the same ones who start the fire Dooley threads and show up in every give Dooley a chance thread. These fans are obnoxious and relentless in their pursuit to see wins now and Dooley gone. Don't use reason with them as they don't use it with you. VN has allowed these fans to take over. Just like any media outlet who wants ratings. They come on here every day, multiple times rehashing their disapproval but they are here creating traffic and thus making money. So for selling out to the haters and those who have Sean Hannity's ability to reasonably discuss I now say....

Vol Nation hates UT
 
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'Boro-vol said:
If we wait until the end of season to announce a change, we've waited too long, and the Sunshine Dumpers will be correct.....it will hurt recruiting and set us back. Still needs to happen though.....Dooley is not HC material.

The sooner the better.
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+1

I have said I think we lose to Miss State. IF we do, Dooley should be fired that night. Naming a new HC then, gives the new coach a chance to salvage a recruiting class.
 
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dooley2 said:
You know what makes me laugh? People like you saying that Dooley is not head coaching material. The fact that you think you can evaluate what a coach is supposed to be at a major D-1 school is hilarious. Answer these questions for me:

1. Are you inside the locker room with the team? Do you know how Dooley talks to the team? Do you know the morale of the players?

2. Are you at the practices? Do you know how hard the guys are working?

3. Are you in the war room? Do you know how these coaches prepare for games? Can you compare it to other D-1 coaches that have success?

Because, I think you just speculate and talk down to anyone who disagrees with you. I think maybe you played in high school, maybe a small college somewhere, and you think you have this awesome extensive knowledge of how football should be, when really you are just a guy on a message board behind an alias talking bad about something about which you know nothing.

I don't know if Dooley is the right guy, I've stated that several times, but I'm willing to wait until at least the end of the season before I start evaluating the situation. I just read the things you negas say and shake my head.
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It's not hard to evalute Dooley as a head coach. He is a career losing coach. His resume says everything a person needs to know to make their own decision. Some people like yourself hope for the best and think maybe he turns things around. Alot of others know his past coaching shows he can not. His record as a HC is fact. Hopes and dreams just lead to more loses.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
It's not hard to evalute Dooley as a head coach. He is a career losing coach. His resume says everything a person needs to know to make their own decision. Some people like yourself hope for the best and think maybe he turns things around. Alot of others know his past coaching shows he can not. His record as a HC is fact. Hopes and dreams just lead to more loses.
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His record as a head coach is all you negas ever throw out. I think by taking the position that he's a horrible coach based on his record alone is ridiculous. You can't do that in any aspect of life. For example:

If you see a hobo on the street, you may say he's broke because he's lazy, he lacks ability to handle funds, he is not smart enough, etc. But what if that hobo has a mental disorder? What if the hobo dropped out of school to support his family when he was a teenager, and lost his job from McDonalds or wherever, and doesn't have the education or resources to find another job?

Another example: You may see a guy get out of prison for murder and may think he is a horrible person. His record speaks for itself, after all, right? Well, what if that person got thrown in prison for killing someone that molested a member of his family? Oh well, he is still a horrible person because his record says it all.

You can't look at any "record" without also seeking circumstantial analyses. You guys are so close minded.
 
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dooley2 said:
His record as a head coach is all you negas ever throw out. I think by taking the position that he's a horrible coach based on his record alone is ridiculous. You can't do that in any aspect of life. For example:

If you see a hobo on the street, you may say he's broke because he's lazy, he lacks ability to handle funds, he is not smart enough, etc. But what if that hobo has a mental disorder? What if the hobo dropped out of school to support his family when he was a teenager, and lost his job from McDonalds or wherever, and doesn't have the education or resources to find another job?

Another example: You may see a guy get out of prison for murder and may think he is a horrible person. His record speaks for itself, after all, right? Well, what if that person got thrown in prison for killing someone that molested a member of his family? Oh well, he is still a horrible person because his record says it all.

You can't look at any "record" without also seeking circumstantial analyses. You guys are so close minded.
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I like the comparison. Dooley and a hobo, you may be on to something here.

A coach at Tennessee SHOULD be rated on his W/L record. Looking for positives other than winning as to why and keep a coach is something Vandy or other scrubs do. Maybe you like the idea of being Vandy East.
 
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dooley2 said:
His record as a head coach is all you negas ever throw out. I think by taking the position that he's a horrible coach based on his record alone is ridiculous. You can't do that in any aspect of life. For example:

If you see a hobo on the street, you may say he's broke because he's lazy, he lacks ability to handle funds, he is not smart enough, etc. But what if that hobo has a mental disorder? What if the hobo dropped out of school to support his family when he was a teenager, and lost his job from McDonalds or wherever, and doesn't have the education or resources to find another job?

Another example: You may see a guy get out of prison for murder and may think he is a horrible person. His record speaks for itself, after all, right? Well, what if that person got thrown in prison for killing someone that molested a member of his family? Oh well, he is still a horrible person because his record says it all.

You can't look at any "record" without also seeking circumstantial analyses. You guys are so close minded.
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Are you saying Dooley has a mental disorder? We just want a better coach.
 
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I like the comparison to the murderer. Seems fitting since he's killing the program.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
I like the comparison. Dooley and a hobo, you may be on to something here.

A coach at Tennessee SHOULD be rated on his W/L record. Looking for positives other than winning as to why and keep a coach is something Vandy or other scrubs do. Maybe you like the idea of being Vandy East.
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Still, you are close minded. If an atomic bomb was dropped on UTs campus and we hired someone to come in to completely rebuild the program, you'd want him to be fired after he went winless his first season with intramural players. Sad, sad, sad.

If Dooley goes 6-6 or worse at the end of the year, I will say it's time to let him go. Until then, it's very arrogant an naive of you to think you know more about the state of the program than Mr. Hart. Right now, you're just a brave individual on a message board.
 
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dooley2 said:
Still, you are close minded. If an atomic bomb was dropped on UTs campus and we hired someone to come in to completely rebuild the program, you'd want him to be fired after he went winless his first season with intramural players. Sad, sad, sad.

If Dooley goes 6-6 or worse at the end of the year, I will say it's time to let him go. Until then, it's very arrogant an naive of you to think you know more about the state of the program than Mr. Hart. Right now, you're just a brave individual on a message board.
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What happens if he gets to 7-5?
 
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'Boro-vol said:
I like the comparison to the murderer. Seems fitting since he's killing the program.
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+1

I almost added that to my above post as well. I decided not to as I give the man credit for standing in as coach and adding some decent talent to the roster. The time for a stand in coach is over. We did not get sanctions, the roster is better, and it is time to make winning a priority again. A new HC can take that step.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
It's not hard to evalute Dooley as a head coach. He is a career losing coach. His resume says everything a person needs to know to make their own decision. Some people like yourself hope for the best and think maybe he turns things around. Alot of others know his past coaching shows he can not. His record as a HC is fact. Hopes and dreams just lead to more loses.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't La Tech a rebuilding job too? If so, wouldn't that perhaps produce a poor record? His only two head coaching gigs were rebuilding jobs, and that may be his knack, who knows, but if you don't give him a fair chance, then that's not going to bode well with the next staff (if there is one).
 
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Cartervol said:
What happens if he gets to 7-5?
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I won't be happy with it, but at 7-5 I think he at least deserves the opportunity to have all of his recruits officially cycle through. Sal will be in year two with his defense, we will most likely have Derrick Green, and our seniors will have a better understanding of how to win.

Sometimes players have to know how it feels to win before they can get over that hump. It's very sad to think about, but I think the state of this program would be vastly improved had we got the upset in Death Valley in '10 and won the bowl game. Those two games are the types of games that absolutely destroy morale and make players want to give up.
 
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VOLCLASSOF2014 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't La Tech a rebuilding job too? If so, wouldn't that perhaps produce a poor record? His only two head coaching gigs were rebuilding jobs, and that may be his knack, who knows, but if you don't give him a fair chance, then that's not going to bode well with the next staff (if there is one).
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Maybe it bodes well for the next staff. La Tech is ranked 23rd under their new staff.
 
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I'm convinced that the vast majority of people here have developed such a deeply ingrained preconceived narrative about our current HC that the facts are, at best, accessories to be used in further developing the tale that they want to tell.

In the event that Dooley does somehow shed his track record of mediocrity to turn us into a consistent winner as you suggest, I would not at all be surprised to see the thread "Dooley = Lucky Ignoramus?" started by an equally delusional member of the opposing faction.
 
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MikeVol44 said:
Raw Data: How many times in CPF's last 3 years on the HILL did he post wins against Fla, GA, Bama, and USCe?
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Not sure what your point is, but.....

2006-2008: Fulmer was 24-15 overall, 5-7 against FL/UGA/Bama/USCe, and 1-1 in bowls. That's a .615 overall, and .417 against the four SEC teams you mentioned.

If you want to go back one more year, you get 29-21 (.580) and 5-11 (.313).

Fact is, Fulmer had lost it. The only debate now is whether Dooley ever had it.

Go Vols.
 
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Ben said:
I'm convinced that the vast majority of people here have developed such a deeply ingrained preconceived narrative about our current HC that the fact are, at best, accessories to be used in further developing the tale that they want to tell.

In the event that Dooley does somehow shed his track record of mediocrity to turn us into a consistent winner as you suggest, I would not at all be surprised to see the thread "Dooley = Lucky Ignoramus?" started by an equally delusional member of the opposing faction.
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Blind squirrel....nut.
 
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dooley2 said:
His record as a head coach is all you negas ever throw out. I think by taking the position that he's a horrible coach based on his record alone is ridiculous.
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And really, nothing else typifies the current state of Tennessee football than this statement.

Wow, just wow. :loco:

We have truly become Kentucky. Sad.
 
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FearlessFreep said:
And really, nothing else typifies the current state of Tennessee football than this statement.

Wow, just wow. :loco:

We have truly become Kentucky. Sad.
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Excuse me, but how have we become Kentucky? I never said anything about the program at UT. I was talking about evaluating coaches in general.

Do you lack efficient comprehension skills?
 
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