Dooley and Bray

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I was just thinking how sad for DD----whom I really had hopes for and really loved his demeanor; sense of humor,and just over all Southernness. Perfect fit for UT; I thought.
Unfortunately, Dooley's success has been dependent on the ultra laid back kid from California--that just can't get there. World class talent, just too nonchalant. Sad story. For both guys, really.
 
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Put a young John Elway back there, and Dooley would still find a way to lose
 
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I'm a huge Dooley fan but Bray is not the main reason we stink. Dooley shouldn't have tried to change defenses during his most important yr of coaching.
 
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I was just thinking how sad for DD----whom I really had hopes for and really loved his demeanor; sense of humor,and just over all Southernness. Perfect fit for UT; I thought.
Unfortunately, Dooley's success has been dependent on the ultra laid back kid from California--that just can't get there. World class talent, just too nonchalant. Sad story. For both guys, really.

Can we put the "California Boy" image to rest already? I know ESPN and every other sports network/radio announcer etc. has hyped it but California is about as diverse as it gets. Bray is from what many would consider a 'hick town' in the middle of nowhere. This notion that Southerners are this, Northerners are that, Californians are this, Midwesterners are that, is and always has been total nonsense.

Dooley has a southern accent and grew up privileged and is highly educated. He's not a hayseed and I doubt he'd claim to be.
 
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I'm a huge Dooley fan but Bray is not the main reason we stink. Dooley shouldn't have tried to change defenses during his most important yr of coaching.

This...I guess it's not all his fault though with Wilcox leaving at all. But still, shouldn't have gone to 3-4 in his biggest year.
 
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There is poor leadership at the top of this program. Given that, I really can't criticize the players too much.
 
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This...I guess it's not all his fault though with Wilcox leaving at all. But still, shouldn't have gone to 3-4 in his biggest year.

very true, if we had just a C to a -C defense we could have won at Georgia. Possibly Florida, but def Georgia.
 
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I'm a huge Dooley fan but Bray is not the main reason we stink. Dooley shouldn't have tried to change defenses during his most important yr of coaching.

You kno if we had kept the same defense as last year. We would have only one loss. Too much for these kids to keep learning new changes, I know they are going to with a new coach. Or maybe the new coach will go to a 4-3 defense. That is what Dooley has been recruiting players for these 3 years.
 
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I love all the people that could have seen that the transition wasn't going to be easy oh wait everyone knew it!! Hindsight is 20/20 yall. The O which is lead by Bray hasn't performed to the level all thought it would and should of. Its not that hard to see that this was the best year to transition if there was going to be one.

I agree with ya OP!

GBO!!
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Can we put the "California Boy" image to rest already? I know ESPN and every other sports network/radio announcer etc. has hyped it but California is about as diverse as it gets. Bray is from what many would consider a 'hick town' in the middle of nowhere. This notion that Southerners are this, Northerners are that, Californians are this, Midwesterners are that, is and always has been total nonsense.

Dooley has a southern accent and grew up privileged and is highly educated. He's not a hayseed and I doubt he'd claim to be.

So everyone from Alabama isn't really married to their cousin?
 
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The O has been together for 3 years they all started as true freshmen. How do they go down hill this year? Did Da'rick save us on 3rd down that much? The D was supposed to be 3-4 & 4-3. Some hybrid "Tennessee" defense. So why couldn't Sal go back to the 4-3 the kids knew?
 
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I was just thinking how sad for DD----whom I really had hopes for and really loved his demeanor; sense of humor,and just over all Southernness. Perfect fit for UT; I thought.
Unfortunately, Dooley's success has been dependent on the ultra laid back kid from California--that just can't get there. World class talent, just too nonchalant. Sad story. For both guys, really.
Agreed 100%
 
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Can we put the "California Boy" image to rest already? I know ESPN and every other sports network/radio announcer etc. has hyped it but California is about as diverse as it gets. Bray is from what many would consider a 'hick town' in the middle of nowhere. This notion that Southerners are this, Northerners are that, Californians are this, Midwesterners are that, is and always has been total nonsense.

Dooley has a southern accent and grew up privileged and is highly educated. He's not a hayseed and I doubt he'd claim to be.

OK PROFESSOR---I give you two laid back guys. Tyler and Eli Manning. You tell me. I doubt seriously Eli had much affinity for the herb. It is more the culture out West. I didn't intend to go there---but you sent me.
 
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year 1....bray didn't start until november

year 2.....bray got hurt.

year 3.....tennessee's defense is a paved road to the endzone.

bray certainly deserves some blame. but, it's not all his fault. here's a stat for you. tennessee is 11-2 when bray starts and tennessee does not give up 30 points or more.

let me add as well.

it's not cool to be singled out by your head coach, when you've got the worst defense in the conference and you have wr's who seem to drop 1 touchdown per game. if i was bray, i'd be pissed. not that he hasn't had errors and mistakes, but you are going to single me out when damn near the entire team is making as many, if not more, glaring errors and mistakes. oh, hell no
 
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Rednecks are in every state
Hippies are in every state
Snobs are in every state

I can handle Bray's laid back demeanor. No problem. The issue I have with Bray is that when he straps on his orange and white he remains laid back.

Something these kids seem to lack is a KILLER instinct. They can't smell blood in the water (example: UGA, MS ST, and UF). They can't seem to close the deal.
 
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Rednecks are in every state
Hippies are in every state
Snobs are in every state

I can handle Bray's laid back demeanor. No problem. The issue I have with Bray is that when he straps on his orange and white he remains laid back.

Something these kids seem to lack is a KILLER instinct. They can't smell blood in the water (example: UGA, MS ST, and UF). They can't seem to close the deal.

Close the deal? What games are you watching? Bray has made his share of mistakes but none have been on defense. He's had to battle this team back just to make the game look competitive on a few occasions.
 
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OK PROFESSOR---I give you two laid back guys. Tyler and Eli Manning. You tell me. I doubt seriously Eli had much affinity for the herb. It is more the culture out West. I didn't intend to go there---but you sent me.

I don't know about Eli or why you're bringing alleged pot use into it but it's hard to find East Tennesseans under 40 who haven't smoked weed at least once. It's our state's number one cash crop and we are second only to California in production -- given the size difference both geographically and population wise it's astounding we come close but we do.

And no, I'm not a pot smoker but I'm also not deluded about it. Students at UT are and have been smoking weed at a rate as high as anywhere (probably higher given the availability and quality of Tennessee's pot) and most of them smoked it in high school. That's reality.

And if Eli has never once smoked pot in his life given his age I'd be shocked.
 
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Close the deal? What games are you watching? Bray has made his share of mistakes but none have been on defense. He's had to battle this team back just to make the game look competitive on a few occasions.

True.. and he has successfully battled back to BLOW three opportunities to win the game.. close the deal.. win the game!!
 
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Can we put the "California Boy" image to rest already? I know ESPN and every other sports network/radio announcer etc. has hyped it but California is about as diverse as it gets. Bray is from what many would consider a 'hick town' in the middle of nowhere. This notion that Southerners are this, Northerners are that, Californians are this, Midwesterners are that, is and always has been total nonsense.

Dooley has a southern accent and grew up privileged and is highly educated. He's not a hayseed and I doubt he'd claim to be.

Truth. Much of Cali is agricultural FYI.
 
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How sad for Dooley???? It should say how sad for BRAY!!!! Hes a kid with all the physical skills to be one of, if not, the best QBs in the country. He commited to Tennessee under Kiffin who turn Crompton from bad to managable and was probably expecting that he could help turn him into a #1 draft pick. Instead Kiffin bolts and he's stuck with a coach that can't coach, just hopes his players natural ability will be enough to win in the SEC.
Worse for Bray is he only gets 4 years to play college ball. Dooley can get fired from here and can continue to coach in college for the rest of his life. Dooleys inability to coach UP players may end up costing Bray his future as an NFL qb while Dooley may just have to to drop down to being an assistant for awhile before eventually landing another HCing job. That is if some smaller school doesn't hire Dooley to be a HC immediately after being ousted from here. Finally Dooley as the HC could have changed QBs at anytime. Bray on the other hand is stuck with Dooley since he only has 1 year of eligibility left so he can't even transfer to a school with a coach that could actually teach him how to read defenses, call audibles, and play smarter.
Theres NO reason to feel bad for Dooley, its the players we need to feel bad for. they are the ones that have wasted their college playing days and tossed their dreams of being high drfat picks in the trash by being stuck with a coach that has no idea how to COACH and instead was hoping those same players would simply out talent their competition and hide the fact that Dooley cant coach or scheme.
 
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