Does Wilcox get a pass?

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I was high on Wilcox when he came here. Like many of you I've been disappointed. Excuses of talent and depth aside, game preparation and strategy has been lacking at best. Does he get a pass if he can prepare this defense to win out?
 
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I think he gets a pass, as long as you give Dooley and Chaney a pass, if depth is the excuse.
 
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Wilcox and Dooley have done well considering the talent and depth. I didn't like the Chaney hire in the first place.
 
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I honestly think you have to give the players and coaches some time to learn the system, seniors have had to learn 3 different defenses...once they have time to focus on one for longer than a year I think it will get better. So i think he gets a pass even if they don't win out, but it also wouldn't hurt to win out either JMO
 
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calban said:
I was high on Wilcox when he came here. Like many of you I've been disappointed. Excuses of talent and depth aside, game preparation and strategy has been lacking at best. Does he get a pass if he can prepare this defense to win out?
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I don't agree that game preparation and strategy have been "lacking at best." Execution hasn't been great, but our game prep and strategy has been demonstrably good in the first half of most of our games. A lack of experience in the system and depth have caused us to look back in the second half, imo. Therefore, I've been giving Wilcox a "pass" all year. I've seen a lot of good thus far. It's not Wilcox's fault that this defensive squad has a lot of shortcomings.
 
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Wilcox will do great, once the personnel gets into place. I like Chaney. I think he just needs a good QB, Tyler Bray, to get the most out of his offense.
 
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VolunteerVandiver said:
Wilcox will do great, once the personnel gets into place. I like Chaney. I think he just needs a good QB, Tyler Bray, to get the most out of his offense.
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I agree about Chaney. His biggest opponent on the board keeps saying that he was only successful because he had great QBs at Purdue.
I think he'll do great when Bray finds himself , oline gels and young receivers kick it in.
 
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Yes, two months ago we were worried about him being a head coach somewhere in 3 years, now we're getting rid of him and bringing in the 4th DC in 4 years? The question is do you play the defense you want to play if you have the players, or do you play the best defense for the players you have? If we stood a chance of winning the sec east Id say play the best defense for the players here but that wasnt going to happen.
 
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I think the bigger question is simply this, does Wilcox get a run? He He He
 
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Wilcox definitely gets a pass, as he is one of Dooley's choices - not a holdover from the previous staff.

Also, he has a pretty decent track record prior to UT.
 
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Its much more difficult to judge a DC than an OC. Most people with a football brain can tell how the OC is doing by the plays that are called and the creativity of the offense in general.

Most people that watch football focus on the offense, no matter who has the ball...If your team is on defense you follow the ball and hope your guys make a stop.

Lattimore had a big day on us yesterday, but my biggest concern from the defense hasn't been the run D...its the lack of pressure of the QB. Its painfully obvious that our front four can't generate pressure on a QB on their own, so I'd like to see more creativity on the blitz schemes and see Wilcox bring 5 or 6. A corner or safety blitz every once in a while would be a nice change up as well.

Overall, the deck is really stacked against him this year, and our secondary is so weak he can't get too creative in the blitz packages, because we don't have anyone that can cover one on one.

His running of a vanilla defense is basically the opposite of what Chaney tries to do. Wilcox knows that he doesn't have the personnel to do what he wants, so he keeps it very simple. Chaney doesn't have the personnel he wants, so he throw the ball way to much, runs end arounds on every possession, and puts the freshmen in complex formation sets that create penalties because our guys can't line up correctly.

Yes, Wilcox gets a pass.
 
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Hard to gauge the D when there are about 6 legit SEC caliber players on the two deep.

Look at how the Oregon game or Bama games started. That was a good scheme that was executed well. However, Tennessee ran out of talented bodies as the game wore on.
 
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IS the OP crazy???...Of course Wilcox gets a pass...this defense has held there own against some of the best offenses in the nation (i.e. Oregon, Alabama, OREGON) until they just were physically done for...give him an off season of conditioning and player development and our D will be GREAT!!!!
 
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calban said:
I was high on Wilcox when he came here. Like many of you I've been disappointed. Excuses of talent and depth aside, game preparation and strategy has been lacking at best. Does he get a pass if he can prepare this defense to win out?
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He held Oregon's offense to less points than Monte did, so yeah, he gets a pass. He did it without all the 5* players that USC has too.
 
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calban said:
I was high on Wilcox when he came here. Like many of you I've been disappointed. Excuses of talent and depth aside, game preparation and strategy has been lacking at best. Does he get a pass if he can prepare this defense to win out?
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tHINK BEFORE STARTING A THREAD!!!! NO WORTH A RESPONSE,EPIC FAIL!!! :crazy::crazy:
 
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I'll give the guy until we actually have a full roster and guys playing DT that aren't DE's before I make an opinion.

Our secondary players wouldn't be second team on alot of other teas either. I hate burnt toast.
 
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I think neither Chaney or Wilcox have their entire O & D respectively actually implemented.

-We saw improvement from the D yesterday. And, I think we see some improvement in their comfort within the D scheme. I'd have to wager a guess that Wilcox has <50% of his playbook & schemes actually installed. Will see a lot more timing blitzes & different D looks from him next year.
-We saw expansion of the playbook on O yesterday from Chaney. A) I don't think he's called plays for years before this year, so he may be shaking off a little rust playcalling-wise. B) the fact that the O moved very well yesterday, finished better, & were running more variety of attacking plays, as opposed to "let's not screw up this drive" plays, tells me that he has not installed all of his O. Maybe a little more than Wilcox, but definitely not near 100%.
 
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