Dobbs...NFL or Grad School

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Just because a guy writes for a blog or even for a major online news outlet does NOT mean he's an expert or an NFL Scout. Heck it doesn't necessarily mean he knows more about scouting than anyone here. Former scouts, GMs, front office staff, etc who are doing this kind of analysis are really the only opinions worth a flip and even they are wrong more than right.

I don't know much, but I know the NFL is trending away from spread/read option QBs in favor of legit passers in the early rounds. That doesn't mean Dobbs won't be drafted, he's a talented player who has a ton of great tools to work with. He will find a home, but it may not be early in the draft. That's not a knock on him, Russell Wilson went in round 3...heck Tom Brady went in round 7. Dobbs will find a home and be successful, his attitude is as good as any player.
 
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These so called experts that write the articles most likely don't do a whole lot more than watch the highlights on ESPN and maybe a game or two. Their opinion doesn't mean anything to the NFL teams.

The only thing that matters is the NFL combine and the game film. Either he will be accurate at the combine or he won't. They will evaluate every throw of his and determine if he has what it takes. If they like what they see along with the Wonderlic test and his interviews they will draft him.

He has a ton of intangibles that would be very desirable and he is the anti-Johnny football (i.e., you know he will represent your team well). His only downside is his accuracy / consistency. If he improves that along with a better pocket presence, I'm sure he'll get drafted in the first few rounds. If he struggles with accuracy - especially at the combine, I'm sure a team will take a chance and draft him late.

But, at this point, who really cares. He's our QB for next season and we'll support him and debate his success / failure on here like we always do. No point getting all worked up about it now. That is unless he's foolish enough to declare for the draft this year.
 
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BearCat204 said:
I dont know, where do you provide anything from any NFL scout? You have mentioned Ware about a dozen times and that he has more football knowl.....blah blah blah.
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obviously you cant read.... Its ok though, When Dobbs gets drafted ill make sure I get on here and laugh at everyone who said he wouldnt :eek:lol:
 
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Smokey123 said:
obviously you cant read.... Its ok though, When Dobbs gets drafted ill make sure I get on here and laugh at everyone who said he wouldnt :eek:lol:
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Just wondering what scouts you were referring to? Thanks and he may get drafted, but not before round 5 at this point which is far and away from what you've suggested. I do hope you can come back and laugh because that means Dobbs is pretty darn good next year and if I can assist in your joy, no matter how small, it will warm my heart.
 
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butchna said:
I think that other dude that writes just like him posted some articles...not scouts...but they write articles. :)
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I thought he said that we think we know more than NFL scouts......just wondering what scouts have penciled Dobbs in forbeing a top draft pick.
 
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How do you even know he'll make himself eligible for the draft? Just getting drafted is a big deal for many, but it may not be for him.

If it is true that he wants to pursue a career in aero, why would he waste a few good years career-building years on a practice squad? I understand if you want to pursue coaching or have no other options why many do that, but Dobbs has options.

If he is projected as a player that can stick, I understand. But, if he's just fringe player, why bother.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
How do you even know he'll make himself eligible for the draft? Just getting drafted is a big deal for many, but it may not be for him.

If it is true that he wants to pursue a career in aero, why would he waste a few good years career-building years on a practice squad? I understand if you want to pursue coaching or have no other options why many do that, but Dobbs has options.

If he is projected as a player that can stick, I understand. But, if he's just fringe player, why bother.
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Because the minimum salary for a rookie in the NFL is 435K a year and a practice squad player earns 6K a week????
 
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well, this list is fluid, as i think a couple may be coming out this year, but as of right now, on this list he's rated #8 QB in 2017 draft class. not putting it in concrete, but i could see a team, like Seattle, Carolina, San Fransisco, Pittsburgh, Kansas City etc...take a shot with him in late rounds. these teams have physical qb's with a knack for being mobile, running or zone read ability.

i don't see Dobbs going to a New England, Indy, NYJ or NYG type that runs the prototypical pro style offense. Dobbs would be a "fit" draft pick, which would also mean the team that would draft him believes a competitor will. not sure that will be the case with him...not enough demand for what many will call a poor man's Cam Newton. depending on what we see from him in 2016 in the passing game development, i think he could be 5 or later round pick, depending on the sense of urgency, and who else is left or emerges from that draft class.

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I seriously doubt a single NFL evaluator will put Josh Dobbs and Cam Newton in the same sentence.
 
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VKAman said:
I seriously doubt a single NFL evaluator will put Josh Dobbs and Cam Newton in the same sentence.
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why not? in my desc, i did say a poor man's Cam. so it's not like i'm saying he IS cam newton.

but they are both big, physical running QB's, who's main skill sets (for cam coming in to the league) was known more for what they can do with their legs, than what they can do with their arms.

Cam has since developed as a pocket passer (but it took 3 years and upgrading the O line) to get there....

Dobbs falls in that category as well. basically, who would you compare Dobbs to then? he's not a pro style qb, and he's not the shifty, quick running QB like Mariota or kyler murray...

his mold is of the same as a cam newton. not that he is as good as cam.
 
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jakez4ut said:
but they are both big, physical running QB's, who's main skill sets (for cam coming in to the league) was known more for what they can do with their legs, than what they can do with their arms.
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There was no comparison between Cam Newton's arm and Josh Dobbs's arm in college.......Newton had a cannon and was much more accurate that what Dobbs has shown as of yet. With another year in college, Dobbs could perhaps develop into a NFL QB, but he has a way to go IMO.
 
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BearCat204 said:
There was no comparison between Cam Newton's arm and Josh Dobbs's arm in college.......Newton had a cannon and was much more accurate that what Dobbs has shown as of yet. With another year in college, Dobbs could perhaps develop into a NFL QB, but he has a way to go IMO.
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i don't get it...

where did i say that he was cam newton...dobbs isn't winning a heisman nor is he going to be the #1 pick.

all i said was he's from the same mold.

i don't think i'm reaching here.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i don't get it...

where did i say that he was cam newton...dobbs isn't winning a heisman nor is he going to be the #1 pick.

all i said was he's from the same mold.

i don't think i'm reaching here.
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The only similarities between the two are their running styles.....but I would argue that Cam was much more physical than Dobbs. A comparison on arms between the two shouldn't even be mentioned because its like night and day.
 
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BearCat204 said:
The only similarities between the two are their running styles.....but I would argue that Cam was much more physical than Dobbs. A comparison on arms between the two shouldn't even be mentioned because its like night and day.
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said another way, hopefully fro clarity...what mold does dobbs come from...multiple choice

Peyton manning/Tom Brady/Eli Manning?

Cam Newton/Marcus Mariota/Tyrod Taylor?

this is all i'm saying. and he's definitely in group 2, and not as good as any of those three, right now.
 
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jakez4ut said:
said another way, hopefully fro clarity...what mold does dobbs come from...multiple choice

Peyton manning/Tom Brady/Eli Manning?

Cam Newton/Marcus Mariota/Tyrod Taylor?

this is all i'm saying. and he's definitely in group 2, and not as good as any of those three, right now.
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Agree
 
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I would like to see him go to grad school and follow his dreams of working in aero engineering . I don't think he would make it in the NFL but that's just my opinion . He does not throw the ball down field well enough to start in the NFL . I would rather see this kid use his mind and go be an astronaut or fly jets or something . I don't see being able to go to NFL and be and astronaut . Both professions are a young mans career. I do think he is a great kid with a lot of leadership abilities.
 
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All of the people that believe Dobbs will be drafted, let alone in the top half of the draft, I have a serious question for you.

What starting NFL QB, is Dobbs better than?
 
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