Dobbs in the NFL

#76
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Just saw a mock draft where they had Dobbs going in the 7th round to New England. Malone wasn't mentioned anywhere.
 
#77
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Who knows what Dobbs would/will be in the NFL? For those old enough to remember, would any of you thought Tom Brady would become one of the greatest NFL players of all time? Or how about guys like Ryan Leaf, Heath, Shuler, Jamarcus Russell, Tim Tebow, Johnny Manziel, Andre Ware, Danny Weurffle being complete busts?

What a QB does in college doesnt totally reflect what he will do as a pro.

I don't pay enough attention to other teams, and even less the NFL, but I for one, never expected Russell or Tebow to make it as a quarterback. Both excelled in a smaller pond that is college football, but neither had the skills for the NFL. If they had opted to become tight ends, maybe we'd be having a different discussion regarding their NFL careers, but as it is, I'm not surprised in the least.

Manziel is weak minded, so that's no surprise, but still wasn't real impressed with his passing ability.

Weurffle, from what I've seen on tape, is a lot like Casey Clausen, but definitely a bit more of a surprise that he didn't have a successful career at the next level.

The others I have no opinion to give because I'm not old enough to remember, and really don't care enough to research.
 
#78
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Just saw a mock draft where they had Dobbs going in the 7th round to New England. Malone wasn't mentioned anywhere.

I wouldn't waste time looking at any mock draft that goes 7 rounds. Those guys know nothing.

The first valuable mock drafts come out after the combine. And we won't really know what is going to happen until a few days before the draft when the final mock drafts come out.
 
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#79
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QB & Heisman winner Gino Torretta from the U, 1992.
 
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It's all about being on the right team/scheme. If Prescott was w/ the Browns, he wouldn't have had near the impact this year. Short range throws hopefully something pro's can coach him on...remember, he DIDN'T have a QB coach, which, totally separate topic, but think is very puzzling to have a TE coach where we throw to them once a game...but don't have a QB coach. I really hope he lands in the right environment. Such a wonderful example of student-athlete.

I suppose the thinking has been / not trying to be derogatory: first priority, is to keep a te's coach to coach the te's to block for the qb who will be running after his 1st go-to receiver isn't open.

Surely I'm missing something.
 
#81
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I love Dobbs and am so grateful he played for the Orange and White - but as to why I seriously question whether he can make it as a pro I have 2 words "Tim Tebow".
 
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I don't pay enough attention to other teams, and even less the NFL, but I for one, never expected Russell or Tebow to make it as a quarterback. Both excelled in a smaller pond that is college football, but neither had the skills for the NFL. If they had opted to become tight ends, maybe we'd be having a different discussion regarding their NFL careers, but as it is, I'm not surprised in the least.

Manziel is weak minded, so that's no surprise, but still wasn't real impressed with his passing ability.

Weurffle, from what I've seen on tape, is a lot like Casey Clausen, but definitely a bit more of a surprise that he didn't have a successful career at the next level.

The others I have no opinion to give because I'm not old enough to remember, and really don't care enough to research.
Wuerffel was a smart qb with great touch, but below average arm strength (maybe worse than Manning in his last year). At least that is how I remember him. I was not surprised that he didn't have much success in the NFL.
 
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I love Dobbs and am so grateful he played for the Orange and White - but as to why I seriously question whether he can make it as a pro I have 2 words "Tim Tebow".
Dobbs is a great athlete, but is not accurate enough on slants or longer throws, or quick enough on his reads and decision making to be a pro qb in my opinion. Of course, I could be wrong. He is too loose with the ball and probably not durable enough to be a good running back. I don't know if he could play receiver or not, probably too slow, and I don't know if he can catch. I would think his future would be in Canadian football or aeronautics.
 
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I wouldn't waste time looking at any mock draft that goes 7 rounds. Those guys know nothing.

The first valuable mock drafts come out after the combine. And we won't really know what is going to happen until a few days before the draft when the final mock drafts come out.

It really doesn't make sense to get overly excited about draft position prior to the combine.
 
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Dobbs arm strength is not average. Its way above average. It might not be Aaron Rodgers/Joe Flacco level of elite arm strength. But its definitely better than most starting QBs in the NFL.

And his arm is stronger than 3 of the last 5 QBs drafted in the 1st round. Dobbs has better arm strength than Goff, Mariota, and Winston. He's right there with Carson Wentz. And really only Paxton Lynch has an arm that is obviously stronger than Dobbs.

Just wait till the senior bowl and combine. The draft analysts will be talking about how strong Dobbs arm is.

Really now?
 
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The success of Prescot should open some doors for Dobbs. Likely drafted in 3rd round. Will be somewhat of a project as he develops/improves passing skills.

WR is also a possiblity given his skill as a runner.

Prescott has literally nothing to do with Dobbs
 
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Hope he has a long and healthy career. VOL Ambassador for Life! He did everything right at UT.
 
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Dobbs accuracy isn't as bad people make it out to be. There's been plenty of throws this year made by Dobbs that was right on the money but our WRs dropped them. There was throws in the Nebraska game that Jennings & Kamara should have easily caught so it's not been all Dobbs this season. He's not the best passer but his accuracy isn't all bad imo.

I agree. He doesn't have great, consistency accuracy, but when he's able to set his feet and throw with confidence and rhythm, he really can make all the throws.

That being said, my post you responded to wasn't specifically about Joshua, it was just a post about qbs in general.
 
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I wouldn't waste time looking at any mock draft that goes 7 rounds. Those guys know nothing.

The first valuable mock drafts come out after the combine. And we won't really know what is going to happen until a few days before the draft when the final mock drafts come out.

On an unrelated note, Saquon Barkley is light years better than Jalen Hurd....not close. I'd list the other college qbs that are much better than Jalen, but I'm not sure Freak has enough bandwidth.
 
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I have seen much better passing qbs in a lot of these bowl games than Dobbs. Some are Freshman. Dobbs runs as good or better than any, but throwing......not so much. They also seem to be able to dump it off to somebody when they are under pressure, instead of taking off on a run. I guess if you aren't a runner, you learn to throw it to somebody.
 
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On an unrelated note, Saquon Barkley is light years better than Jalen Hurd....not close. I'd list the other college qbs that are much better than Jalen, but I'm not sure Freak has enough bandwidth.

I agree. If you saw my list from a few weeks ago where I listed my top NFL prospects still in college, he was in there.

I'm now convinced he's the top RB prospect regardless of class in college right now. He's better than Fournette and better than Kamara. The kid is an amazing prospect. He's basically a more explosive Ezekiel Elliot with better make u miss skills. He should be a lock top 5 selection in 2018. Same with Sam Darnold (who I also had listed among the top pro prospects in college right now).
 
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Here is my list of the top NFL prospects in college football with their pro comparison in parentheses:

QB: Josh Dobbs (Randall Cunningham), Sam Darnold (Matt Stafford), Jarrett Guarantano (Colin Kaepernick)

RB: Saquon Barkley (more explosive and agile Ezekiel Elliott), Alvin Kamara (Marshall Faulk), Leonard Fournette (Marcus Dupree if he didn't bust), Jalen Hurd (more explosive Eddie George)

WR: Corey Davis (Jerry Rice), Antonio Callaway (Marvin Harrison), Noony Murray (Steve Smith)

TE: Evan Engram (Shannon Sharpe), Ethan Wolf (Greg Olsen)

DL: Myles Garrett (Bruce Smith), Arden Key (Simeon Rice), Ed Oliver (John Randle), Solomon Thomas (don't know right who he reminds me of)

LB: Jarrad Davis (Randall Godfrey), Darrin Kirkland Jr. (Bobby Wagner)

DB: Derwin James (Sean Taylor), Cam Sutton (Darrelle Revis)
 
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After all of the malarkey about Josh's ability to huck it downfield, he sure did look good at it didn't he? I watched a lot of teams this year and I swear that Dobbs looked more ..... PROFESSIONAL, than most. He stood like a man in the pocket and showed authority and class. And when the pocket broke down he ran like a man on Fire.i hope he gets an honest shot at the next level.

I'm going out on a limb and say you're a tad biased. And I'm going to say you're quite exaggerating that you "watched a lot of teams".

You're wandering into D4H territory here. Maybe he does make it in the NFL, but your accessment is quite lacking.
 
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Here is my list of the top NFL prospects in college football with their pro comparison in parentheses:

QB: Josh Dobbs (Randall Cunningham), Sam Darnold (Matt Stafford), Jarrett Guarantano (Colin Kaepernick)

RB: Saquon Barkley (more explosive and agile Ezekiel Elliott), Alvin Kamara (Marshall Faulk), Leonard Fournette (Marcus Dupree if he didn't bust), Jalen Hurd (more explosive Eddie George)

WR: Corey Davis (Jerry Rice), Antonio Callaway (Marvin Harrison), Noony Murray (Steve Smith)

TE: Evan Engram (Shannon Sharpe), Ethan Wolf (Greg Olsen)

DL: Myles Garrett (Bruce Smith), Arden Key (Simeon Rice), Ed Oliver (John Randle), Solomon Thomas (don't know right who he reminds me of)

LB: Jarrad Davis (Randall Godfrey), Darrin Kirkland Jr. (Bobby Wagner)

DB: Derwin James (Sean Taylor), Cam Sutton (Darrelle Revis)

Your top NFL talent at QB in all of college football just happens to be 2 of 3 UT quarterbacks?

ROFLMAO.
 
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Here is my list of the top NFL prospects in college football with their pro comparison in parentheses:

QB: Josh Dobbs (Randall Cunningham), Sam Darnold (Matt Stafford), Jarrett Guarantano (Colin Kaepernick)

RB: Saquon Barkley (more explosive and agile Ezekiel Elliott), Alvin Kamara (Marshall Faulk), Leonard Fournette (Marcus Dupree if he didn't bust), Jalen Hurd (more explosive Eddie George)

WR: Corey Davis (Jerry Rice), Antonio Callaway (Marvin Harrison), Noony Murray (Steve Smith)

TE: Evan Engram (Shannon Sharpe), Ethan Wolf (Greg Olsen)

DL: Myles Garrett (Bruce Smith), Arden Key (Simeon Rice), Ed Oliver (John Randle), Solomon Thomas (don't know right who he reminds me of)

LB: Jarrad Davis (Randall Godfrey), Darrin Kirkland Jr. (Bobby Wagner)

DB: Derwin James (Sean Taylor), Cam Sutton (Darrelle Revis)

Have you gone off the deep end?
 
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Your top NFL talent at QB in all of college football just happens to be 2 of 3 UT quarterbacks?

ROFLMAO.

I'm not saying those 3 are the top 3 QBs in college football in terms of pro potential. They are just 3 guys I feel really good about in terms of them hitting the pro comparison. For example, I think Sam Darnold becomes the next Matt Stafford. I think Dobbs becomes a Randall Cunningham type player in the NFL. And I think Guarantano is Colin Kaepernick in terms of skill set.

But there are other QBs out there with great NFL potential. I just haven't studied them enough to give them a proper rating.
 
Have you gone off the deep end?

No.

That's just a list of players I think become studs in the NFL.

Its not all encompassing. The more college football I watch the more names I'll be adding onto that list.

The guys on there right now are the guys I have the most confidence in.
 

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