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I'm laughing at the thought of UT being more nationally despised than Alabama. I'm pretty sure most people in the country hated Saban more than Kiffin, too, until this most recent stunt. The SEC doesn't equal the views of the entire country.Thank you all for you posts. I now understand why everyone in the country despises you and the Barn due to you all constantly discounting anything that any other team does BETTER than you all in this case it is football.
Since there is no such thing as a NCAA FBS National Champion, any school can claim as many as they want in any way they want. Heck they can even retroactively apply obscure polls to years in which the poll didn't exist. I personally have Tennessee at 23 national championships, which I think is best all time.
Tennessee claims the following 6 national titles:
1938
1940
1950
1951
1967
1998
In 1938, Tennessee went 11-0 and won the Orange Bowl, yet did not finish as #1 in either the AP or UPI poll. They did finish #1 in several other polls, like Houlgate, Dunkel, and Billingsley. These are some of the very same "retroactive" polls that are used as ammunition to discredit Alabama's titles. TCU was also undefeated and won the AP title.
In 1940, TN went 10-1 and LOST in the Sugar Bowl. Losing in a bowl game has widely been used as a means of discrediting Alabama's claimed titles, but we see here that TN uses the same system. Tennessee's national title is based on their recognition by Dunkel and Williamson, NOT the AP or UPI. Minnesota and Stanford were also BOTH UNDEFEATED in the 1940 season.
In 1950, Tennessee went 11-1, which was the same record that Kentucky had that year, though Tennessee did beat Kentucky. They did, however, lose to a Mississippi State team with a losing record. Oklahoma also had 1 loss and was awarded BOTH the AP and UPI titles, but Tennessee claims this one anyway.
In 1951, Tennessee (10-1) won the AP title, despite the fact that Michigan State AND Maryland were both undefeated and untied. Georgia Tech and Illinois were also both undefeated, though each team had a tie. So, among the 5 teams that claim some form of a national title in 1951, Tennessee was the only team with a loss.
In 1967, Tennessee went 9-2 and lost in the Orange Bowl. USC and Oklahoma were both 10-1, and USC claimed BOTH the UPI and AP titles. In the Orange Bowl, the Volunteers faced Oklahoma and lost. So, despite finishing with 2 losses and losing to a team with a better record (remind anyone of 'Bama in 1941?), Tennessee claims a title for 1967.
The 1998 Tennessee team, though perhaps the luckiest team to ever win a BCS title (even compared to '02 Ohio State and '07 LSU), earned arguably the only completely legitimate title for the Volunteers.
Just wondering what the excuse for this will be...RTR :lolabove:
By the same token maybe you should clean up your list. Even at worst we finish the "new poll era" with 8 NC which is tied with ND for the most in the country...FAIL
Thank you all for you posts. I now understand why everyone in the country despises you and the Barn due to you all constantly discounting anything that any other team does BETTER than you all in this case it is football.
Thank you all for you posts. I now understand why everyone in the country despises you and the Barn due to you all constantly discounting anything that any other team does BETTER than you all in this case it is football.
Alabama is more reknown for their cheating and probations than they are for their collection of national championships. If you were to ask people across the country, with the exception of the state of Alabama, 9 out of 10 would label the Tide as the dirtiest program in college football history.
Thank you all for you posts. I now understand why everyone in the country despises you and the Barn due to you all constantly discounting anything that any other team does BETTER than you all in this case it is football.
Wow...I never said we had more than you or did it better than you. After that syntax barf, however, I can say that I can construct a better sentence than you so I guess you whiffed that one!
As for the everyone in the country comments...just remember this world traveler. On your yearly trip to Birmingham from the sticks - just because you see a bi-ped who communicates that he agrees with you doesn't mean that you have garnered a majority national opinion.
You poor little, little man!
By the same token maybe you should clean up your list. Even at worst we finish the "new poll era" with 8 NC which is tied with ND for the most in the country...FAIL