Difference Between the Captain and Milt Man

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Those comparing the Hook to Dobbs, I beg to differ. Got to love Captain Hook, but the Dobb Goblin was one of a kind. A freaking magician is what he was. Escaping sure fire TFL, exiting crowds of tacklers for 1st down or TD. All while looking like he was sort of jog-galloping, yet blowing right by people. He had deceptive strength too as from time to time, he bulled his way to a gain or TD. I think Stoops referred to Dobbs as a big QB. I never saw him up close but didn't think of him as a big QB. I believe it because I once saw a photo of him standing with Peyton Manning, who isn't exactly small, and Dobbs made him look smaller. He was just one of a kind. As good as the Captain is, he's no Dobbs, wish he was, though.
 
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RobertPellitt said:
I am not doubting this at all, but is this even a compliment to him? Have we had a quarterback since Dobbs that was even average? Heck I would venture to say that Milton is the second best quarterback since Dobbs. I still believe that Milton can be the guy when Hooker's eligibility is up. He has all the tools, everyone just needs to be patient.
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What?

He's been in college 4 years already 🙄.
 
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LittleVol said:
What?

He's been in college 4 years already 🙄.
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He hasn't been with this coaching staff for four (4) years and as I recall the folks at Virginia Tech weren't all that disappointed that Hooker left. So give him some time, he may surprise all of us just like Hooker has done.
 
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RobertPellitt said:
He hasn't been with this coaching staff for four (4) years and as I recall the folks at Virginia Tech weren't all that disappointed that Hooker left. So give him some time, he may surprise all of us just like Hooker has done.
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If I knew how to fix your post, I would. Don't mix your colleges and players. No disrespect intended.
 
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In fairness, Milton has not even had a spring practice in this offense. Let him go thru the spring and his growth will improve
 
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RobertPellitt said:
I still believe that Milton can be the guy when Hooker's eligibility is up. He has all the tools, everyone just needs to be patient.
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What evidence do you have that Milton has "all the tools"? After 4 years of college football, he hasn't shown it. This is the SEC. I think you and I both know that to succeed as a Quarterback at this level it takes far more than the ability to throw a football 75 yards. It's past time for our football program to move forward, and there are a lot of options out there or coming down the road. We don't have the time or the need to be patient with Milton or anyone else.
 
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LexVol71 said:
What evidence do you have that Milton has "all the tools"? After 4 years of college football, he hasn't shown it. This is the SEC. I think you and I both know that to succeed as a Quarterback at this level it takes far more than the ability to throw a football 75 yards. It's past time for our football program to move forward, and there are a lot of options out there or coming down the road. We don't have the time or the need to be patient with Milton or anyone else.
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I don’t see the gr-IT factor with Milton. Must have that to succeed in big time football.
He didn’t show IT in the Big Ten, and no evidence that he’ll all the sudden find IT in the SEC…….
 
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GUNTERSVOL said:
Know what you mean, only a fool would call another poster a fool for not agreeing with his opinion that any player has maxed out his growth and maturity. For a fact he has not yet proven he can be a major contributor as a QB, but that is the end of the fact set. Our coach obviously thought a lot of his ability to get him here and to start him. Only a fool would take the stance he does not have QB evaluation skills. Until he turns his back on Milton I will not.

He may very well be called on before this season is over and get another shot. Lights do go on and the game slows down later for some than others. Same with posters and class issues in dealing with guys who have signed on to be VOLS. Until he shows a lack of class in dealing with losing his job I will not lower mine. He has not earned the starting job nor a lot of the treatment he has received for honestly failing to hold it.
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Milton has done squat. Not sure what people love other than he looks like an Under Armour mannequin
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
Well, there is a problem with your assumption that Cade is alluding to the fact that Milton stepped out, but Hooker won't, he'll fight. . .

This article was published on October 5th. We didn't play Ole Miss until October 16th. . . he could still be talking about Milton being soft, but not in the scope that you're suggesting.
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Makes sense. I found it hard to believe that Cade would say that following ole miss game. Just not a good look to publicly roast your teammates
 
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FlintstoneGAVol said:
No, just No. JG was JG and he had all the tools, great in practice. Milton is JG lite or JG strong but still another JG.
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Yep. somebody with all the variables but could not win the job at Michigan. It's not like he's a small HS QB coming in and we are going to wait till the maturity and S&C program gets him ready. Nowadays there are so many camps if a QB comes in with the size and an arm he should have instant success or it's not there between the ears.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
He even runs like dobbs at times. Are they the same no but there are flashes of it especially on designed runs.

His ability to get skinny and split defenders is damn near inhuman. Plus his accuracy is off the charts
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He's not quite the runner Dobbs was but he's damn good and a more accurate passer. If he had Dobbs Wrs his passing numbers would be insane imo
 
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JonGrudensAgent said:
Milton was a toss of the lawn dart and an error that has been corrected at this point.

Agree with the staff needing to hit the transfer portal hard for other options though.
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I have a feeling just about every DT QB that hits the portal will give TN a look. We are one of the funniest offenses in football. every time we go on the field I feel like we can score.
 
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During the preseason and amid discussion about which should be the starting QB, I mentioned that I thought HH would be the best choice. He has exceeded my expectations and I sincerely hope he continues to move in that positive trajectory. No way to know but had he been the starter from day one I honestly feel we would have likely won one or two more games.
 
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RockyTop140 said:
Makes sense. I found it hard to believe that Cade would say that following ole miss game. Just not a good look to publicly roast your teammates
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Cade played in GA with, I think it was Justin Fields. If I recall right, JF had a rep for not just taking hits but dishing them out as well. So Cade knew a QB with guts when he saw one. Personally, I still like the Milt man, but as someone else said, we all saw what happened. It wasn't the first time we saw him behave that way. We've seen him shy away from contact and literally lie down on the ground for the same reason. I don't like the shade throwing at a teammate either, but when you have a player who doesn't play like a teammate, maybe he isn't shading the guy. Like another poster here earlier, I had no idea just how close Milton was to the end zone. He could have either chucked the ball to the end zone from the LOS and hoped for the best, or lowered his head and tried to bull his way there from that distance. Instead, he stepped out of bounds. I entertained a few ideas of why he did this. 1. CJH told him to do it to avoid further injury since he had yet to fully recover. 2. CJH told him to do it to avoid losing both his #1 and #2 QBs. 3. Milton didn't realize doing this meant he was out of time, even with a 1st down. OK, what shut me up was CJH has said nothing of the sort, nor come to Milton's defense regarding his stepping out. Not one word. Sadly, and mind you, I was a Milt man believer for a while, you can see during the plays, Milton's body language, his FEAR of contact. Which makes Cade's statement less shade than it is the coldblooded truth. People suggesting he become a TE, uh-uh, too much contact and fear for that. I hate saying this, and still hope he turns it around and be what he could be if he did so. But until and unless that happens, my wholesale belief in him has taken too big a hit to expect that. How I hope to be wrong nonetheless.

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It's amazing how much difference good coaching makes and it is so evident in our qb play this year.

Hooker has passed for 1,578 yards, 17 touchdowns, and only two interceptions so far this season (eight games).

In six starts, Hooker has passed for 1,385 yards, 15 touchdowns, and one interception.

Over a 13 game season (regular season plus a bowl game), that extrapolates to 3,001 yards, 33 touchdowns, and two interceptions.

Tennessee has only had four players ever throw for 3,000 yards in a season. The last quarterback to accomplish the milestone was Tyler Bray in 2012 (3,612 yards in 12 games).





In less than a year a weakness turned into a strength for the Tennessee Vols
 
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RobertPellitt said:
I am not doubting this at all, but is this even a compliment to him? Have we had a quarterback since Dobbs that was even average? Heck I would venture to say that Milton is the second best quarterback since Dobbs. I still believe that Milton can be the guy when Hooker's eligibility is up. He has all the tools, everyone just needs to be patient.
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He doesn’t have all the tools though. He’s a pus with a potato for a brain.
 
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UT Hill Man said:
Hooker is easily the best to man the QB position since Josh Dobbs.

Considering how the biggest contributing factor to so many bad seasons we have endured is poor QB play, we should all feel pretty lucky to have him.
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That's a pretty low standard, considering that JG ended up being our QB for just about every year since Dobbs left. That's a pretty low standard.

I do feel very fortuante to have Hooker though. No question about that.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Those comparing the Hook to Dobbs, I beg to differ. Got to love Captain Hook, but the Dobb Goblin was one of a kind. A freaking magician is what he was. Escaping sure fire TFL, exiting crowds of tacklers for 1st down or TD. All while looking like he was sort of jog-galloping, yet blowing right by people. He had deceptive strength too as from time to time, he bulled his way to a gain or TD. I think Stoops referred to Dobbs as a big QB. I never saw him up close but didn't think of him as a big QB. I believe it because I once saw a photo of him standing with Peyton Manning, who isn't exactly small, and Dobbs made him look smaller. He was just one of a kind. As good as the Captain is, he's no Dobbs, wish he was, though.
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Your Captain Hook nickname is not getting any traction.
 
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volinthenorth said:
Your Captain Hook nickname is not getting any traction.
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Actually, a few posters have used the term, but who gives a darn???? I like playing around with words and inventing nicknames, for MY, MY, MY pleasure. I don't really care what other people think. But if you want to know what didn't get traction, but blow back instead, here it is. A few years ago, I was referring to Dobbs as the Dobb Goblin. That pizzed off more than a few people. They assumed I was insulting the man because of his medical condition resulting in his not having eyebrows. In truth, I did it for mainly two reasons. One, I loved how he did his pulling a rabbit out of the hat escapes from TFLs and scoring with the odds seemingly against him. So I thought, "The goblin got 'em again." Two, Dobbs was the bane of teams like Kentucky, and USCe. So I played on the somewhat phonetic similarity with his name and the Spider-man villain "Hob Goblin." Thus, Dobb Goblin. It got no traction, but did get some serious blow back. I still didn't care that much about it because, well..you know..this is VN. Folks will find or create an excuse to criticize, insult, or hate someone or something. I'm OK, with that because VN wouldn't be VN otherwise, it's part of this forum's color. And even with some posters who I felt forced to put on ignore, we're still all Vols fans regardless.

Long live Captain Hook!
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