Derek Mason fired

#154
#154
2GeeZ4VolZ said:
The worst part? Derek Mason kicked our ass while he was here. Imagine that headline-“Vandy fires coach that has decent record against in-state, hated rival.”

How far we have fallen.
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True but Vanderbilt is being a bit delusional here if you ask me. Mason has been a good coach for them, I think they've really let those James Franklin years go to their head.
 
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#155
I don’t see Fulmer making a move this year. Pruitt will get a pass due to QB play and a strong talk to fix it next year. Even if he did make a move, he would wait until after the season.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Yeah, I saw ESPN touting the historical significance (mostly because they want to generate clicks and ad revenue, one assumes). And one of my (Vandy grad) daughters went out of her way to mention it to me, as well.

But I'm not really seeing it.

Fact is, other college football teams have played female kickers. Several times, over the decades. One of those kickers even scored points for her team. "Yes," ESPN says, "but those weren't Power 5 programs."

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So, not as historic as all that. Just another iteration of a thing that rarely happens.
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To be honest, I thought Mason was doing it to try to save his job. Appeal to the woke college administrators.

It's very far-fetched to believe that she was the best place kicker at that entire university. I'm not saying that a woman couldn't be a good place-kicker. Penn State had one several years back who was their 3rd stringer. But it's not like she practices it often and I'm sure there's someone who kicked in high school, or a men's soccer or rugby player who could do it.

Felt like Mason was making a desperation move to save his job. Or he knew he was getting fired anyway, and just decided to give her a shot for the semi-historic nature of it.

It was interesting at least; or it would've been if Vandy had ever scored a touchdown or gotten within the 20 yard line and had to kick a field goal. But feels kinda lame that all she got to do was squib the 2nd half kickoff.
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
To be honest, I thought Mason was doing it to try to save his job. Appeal to the woke college administrators.

It's very far-fetched to believe that she was the best place kicker at that entire university. I'm not saying that a woman couldn't be a good place-kicker. Penn State had one several years back who was their 3rd stringer. But it's not like she practices it often and I'm sure there's someone who kicked in high school, or a men's soccer or rugby player who could do it.

Felt like Mason was making a desperation move to save his job. Or he knew he was getting fired anyway, and just decided to give her a shot for the semi-historic nature of it.

It was interesting at least; or it would've been if Vandy had ever scored a touchdown or gotten within the 20 yard line and had to kick a field goal. But feels kinda lame that all she got to do was squib the 2nd half kickoff.
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I thought the exact same thing.
 
#166
#166
volKano said:
I’m all for the best player to be on the field. I don’t care if it’s a woman but I don’t get why it’s such a big deal to have a female kicker come out and kick it like a middle school player and make a big deal about it. Someone else was better and kicked the rest of the game. She was used as a publicity stunt and people acted like she broke through a barrier. Nope, just a side show for attention.
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I agree and Mason should have been fired for that alone. He knew he was about be fired so he can now go down in record books as giving female first chance play college football.
 
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#168
DiderotsGhost said:
To be honest, I thought Mason was doing it to try to save his job. Appeal to the woke college administrators.

It's very far-fetched to believe that she was the best place kicker at that entire university. I'm not saying that a woman couldn't be a good place-kicker. Penn State had one several years back who was their 3rd stringer. But it's not like she practices it often and I'm sure there's someone who kicked in high school, or a men's soccer or rugby player who could do it.

Felt like Mason was making a desperation move to save his job. Or he knew he was getting fired anyway, and just decided to give her a shot for the semi-historic nature of it.

It was interesting at least; or it would've been if Vandy had ever scored a touchdown or gotten within the 20 yard line and had to kick a field goal. But feels kinda lame that all she got to do was squib the 2nd half kickoff.
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Or...he knew he was getting fired and said screw it, let’s roll out a soccer player.🤷‍♂️
Kinda like when Lane tried the 70+ yard FG with Janikowski.
GBO!!
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
To be honest, I thought Mason was doing it to try to save his job. Appeal to the woke college administrators.

It's very far-fetched to believe that she was the best place kicker at that entire university. I'm not saying that a woman couldn't be a good place-kicker. Penn State had one several years back who was their 3rd stringer. But it's not like she practices it often and I'm sure there's someone who kicked in high school, or a men's soccer or rugby player who could do it.

Felt like Mason was making a desperation move to save his job. Or he knew he was getting fired anyway, and just decided to give her a shot for the semi-historic nature of it.

It was interesting at least; or it would've been if Vandy had ever scored a touchdown or gotten within the 20 yard line and had to kick a field goal. But feels kinda lame that all she got to do was squib the 2nd half kickoff.
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I also thought something similar except I was thinking that the relatively new female AD for VU may have pushed for it to elevate the perceived wokeness and Mason may have pushed back and paid for with his job....even though he probably new he was on thin ice.
 
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#172
This is just my opinion on Mason’s firing. I’m sure the noise around the female kicker had a lot to do with the timing of the dismissal. Seems like Mason was patting himself on the back a little too much over the publicity stunt and should have been in a more humble demeanor regarding the absolute beat down which occurred on the field. Probably just too much for even the Vandy Admin. and Boosters to put up with.
 
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GAVol said:
Y’all need to calm down thinking Vandy is going to outhire anybody. That place has been a coaching graveyard since World War II. James Franklin is the only guy I can think of that left there with his career intact.
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Speaking of coaching graveyards........
 
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05_never_again said:
I know they have low expectations, but how they attract a coach with any pedigree is beyond me. At an institutional level, they don't even try and they play in the SEC.

Mason and Franklin were very good hires for them resume-wise; Franklin had been a P5 OC and Mason a P5 DC who was the DC for some really good David Shaw Stanford teams.

Franklin and Gerry DiNardo are the only guys who have ever been able to use it in any kind of stepping stone fashion, although Franklin is the only guy to use it as a stepping stone who was actually good at Vandy. DiNardo was terrible, yet LSU hired him anyway. And LSU was nowhere near the job in 1995 that it is today.
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Did McIntyre beat Fulmer twice?
 
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#175
Vanderbilt is a very difficult place to win at and maybe Fitch might be the permanent head coach if he does very well.
 
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