Defending Fulmer

#729
#729
utgibbs said:
That may be so.

But see my response to Cotton. History, simply, is not on your side.

I think there is a chance we make a run this year - and I actually think it is better than our chance next year. Vegas Vol posted some odds on our potential record, and although I only scanned it, it looked fairly solid to me. If Dooley and Co deliver 7 -5 I should think they overacheived a little.

Which is a testimonial to the failure of the Hambone Experiment. :hi:
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I'm starting to agree with you. A lot of this is on Hamilton. You are right. He should have fired Failmer muvh sooner.
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#730
#730
Sometimes I can't tell the difference between reading a Dave Barry column and Gibbs posts. They're both equally hilarious.

Unless Gibbs considers staying within 4 TDs of Bama and UF victories then there is no way we win more than we did without him.
 
#733
#733
pl3 said:
We will have the best product on the field next year that we have had in a decade and will have the best assmebled staff and leadership that we have seen in a dozen or so years. I'm just going to assume you have no idea what you are looking at when you watch a football game. That must be frustrating.
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Do you think this assembled staff will know that more than 11 players on the field during play is a penalty? Will there be some one on the staff that can keep a weak-ass ACC team driving the length of the field in 2 minutes? I saw that, maybe you dont have any idea what you're looking at when you watch a football game.
 
#734
#734
Big Orange 1 said:
Do you think this assembled staff will know that more than 11 players on the field during play is a penalty? Will there be some one on the staff that can keep a weak-ass ACC team driving the length of the field in 2 minutes? I saw that, maybe you dont have any idea what you're looking at when you watch a football game.
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You're pathetic.
 
#735
#735
Big Orange 1 said:
Do you think this assembled staff will know that more than 11 players on the field during play is a penalty?
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are you claiming it never happened to CPF and staff?

Big Orange 1 said:
Will there be some one on the staff that can keep a weak-ass ACC team driving the length of the field in 2 minutes?
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Clemson and Maryland are also curious about this (not to mention UCLA)
 
#736
#736
Big Orange 1 said:
Do you think this assembled staff will know that more than 11 players on the field during play is a penalty? Will there be some one on the staff that can keep a weak-ass ACC team driving the length of the field in 2 minutes? I saw that, maybe you dont have any idea what you're looking at when you watch a football game.
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Seriously? That's the example you pick. No defensive coordinator in the country could've run a dime package with our personnel last year.
 
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#737
utvolpj said:
are you claiming it never happened to CPF and staff?



Clemson and Maryland are also curious about this
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He just chooses to not respond to posts that make him look like an even bigger dumbass. Probably a good move.
 
#738
#738
utvolpj said:
are you claiming it never happened to CPF and staff?



Clemson and Maryland are also curious about this (not to mention UCLA)
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No, I honestly dont remember a win that would have meant more to a young team in one of if not THE toughest places to play in the country and CPF lost a game due to too many players on the field. I dont remember if I'm wrong Im sure someone will point it out and I apologize.
 
#739
#739
Big Orange 1 said:
No, I honestly dont remember a win that would have meant more to a young team in one of if not THE toughest places to play in the country and CPF lost a game due to too many players on the field. I dont remember if I'm wrong Im sure someone will point it out and I apologize.
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so he didn't lose a game on a too many men call (not really sure his history vs LSU is that stellar though). Clearly that means he wins the SEC this year

no comment on the ACC stuff huh?
 
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#740
Big Orange 1 said:
No, I honestly dont remember a win that would have meant more to a young team in one of if not THE toughest places to play in the country and CPF lost a game due to too many players on the field. I dont remember if I'm wrong Im sure someone will point it out and I apologize.
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Great job not responding to your hero getting his ass handed to him by Maryland and Clemson.
 
#741
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Big Orange 1 said:
Do you think this assembled staff will know that more than 11 players on the field during play is a penalty? Will there be some one on the staff that can keep a weak-ass ACC team driving the length of the field in 2 minutes? I saw that, maybe you dont have any idea what you're looking at when you watch a football game.
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Not sure. It happens every saturday and sunday on every level of football. I guess you know better than them all, with your vast experience on the field and sideline. Or was it eating a sammich in the recliner experience that you possess.
Like I said, I can understand your frustration. Kindof like me in a thread about the military. I just ask questions, read, learn and stay out of the way because I know very little about the subject. It's obvious you should do the same here.
 
#743
#743
Big Orange 1 said:
No, I honestly dont remember a win that would have meant more to a young team in one of if not THE toughest places to play in the country and CPF lost a game due to too many players on the field. I dont remember if I'm wrong Im sure someone will point it out and I apologize.
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Nah, in his last years, he lost more on the basis of players not being prepared at practice, and the inability of he and his staff to maximize their talent, vs a fluke ending to a game.
 
#744
#744
Big Orange 1 said:
No, I honestly dont remember a win that would have meant more to a young team in one of if not THE toughest places to play in the country and CPF lost a game due to too many players on the field. I dont remember if I'm wrong Im sure someone will point it out and I apologize.
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CPF's calling card was getting beat by teams with inferior talent and superior coaching.
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DarthVisor said:
CPF's calling card was getting beat by teams with inferior talent and superior coaching.
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At the end of his career he perfected the art of losing to teams with superior talent and superior coaching.
 
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#746
LawVol13 said:
He just chooses to not respond to posts that make him look like an even bigger dumbass. Probably a good move.
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Maryland and Clemson, definitely big time beatdowns. I was referencing losing in the last 2 minutes of the Music City Bowl, by running off tackle 3 straight times when UNC had all their time outs. As far as this dumbass thing, do you go to games? If so, lets get together and talk, want to?
 
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#747
Big Orange 1 said:
Maryland and Clemson, definitely big time beatdowns. I was referencing losing in the last 2 minutes of the Music City Bowl, by running off tackle 3 straight times when UNC had all their time outs. As far as this dumbass thing, do you go to games? If so, lets get together and talk, want to?
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You probably don't want to compare bad last second losses if you are trying to defend Fulmer. Names like Jabar Gaffney and Jamarcus Russell come to mind; so do phrases like "hobnail boot."
 
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#748
cotton said:
You probably don't want to compare bad last second losses if you are trying to defend Fulmer. Names like Jabar Gaffney and Jamarcus Russell come to mind; so do phrases like "hobnail boot."
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Hobnail boot - definitely sucked
Jabar Gaffney - Dropped the ball - (No instant replay at the time)
Jamarcus Russell - Clearly fumbled at midfield, we recovered, play was ruled dead - (No instant replay a the time).
 
#749
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LawVol13 said:
At the end of his career he perfected the art of losing to teams with superior talent and superior coaching.
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I don't know how many times I've watched him piss games away that UT should have won running away.
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Big Orange 1 said:
Maryland and Clemson, definitely big time beatdowns. I was referencing losing in the last 2 minutes of the Music City Bowl, by running off tackle 3 straight times when UNC had all their time outs. As far as this dumbass thing, do you go to games? If so, lets get together and talk, want to?
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There were no good decisions for Coach Dooley in the last two minutes of that game. Try to run, and UNC will stuff you but lose their timeouts, leaving 30 seconds to drive the field. Try to pass and you may get the first down, but you also may allow UNC even more time. Dooley gambled that the time was more important, and he lost the gamble, but it wasn't a mistake, it just didn't work.

Once UNC got the ball, he had to run a dime package. Problem was, we didn't have the personnel to run a dime package. All our DBs were either injured or thrown off the team (not Dooley's fault). And they still wouldn't have failed if not for an atrocious call on the first play (WR ruled to have made the catch in bounds when all replay proves that he obviously did not). Can you blame Dooley for not having depth in the secondary? Can you blame Dooley for the refs? Unless you can answer either of those questions in the affirmative, pipe down about UNC.

Also, regarding letting lesser teams drive the field at the end of the game, do you remember the 2000 UF/UT game or the 2001 UT/UGA game? That Georgia team went a step below the ACC and lost to a Big East team in their bowl, and we did play them at home.

edit: And in case you want to argue that Gaffney's catch shouldn't have counted (which it shouldn't have), keep in mind that Florida were only down by three, had driven inside the ten, and were still on second down. They had a chip shot FG to tie (you may recall that allowing a FG is the reason you found Dooley a failure against UNC).
 
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