Defending Fulmer

#26
#26
Dude has been gone for 3 years, and threads still popping up over him. WEIRD


For the record I like Fulmer, and will be forever grateful for the NC he brought us. Glad he is gone though.
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#27
#27
I miss Fulmer the recruiter. When he sat down on the couch and turned on the charm, it was OVER! He's a fantastic salesman.
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Did you notice along the way that his ability to recruit seemed to wain when his staff (ie Rodney Garner, Coach Cutt etc.) left for greener grass
 
#28
#28
Hopefully this debate will finally end after a big upset win over UF in Gainsville and TN starts 3-0. Then everyone can see CDD is the man for the furture of this program, and will forget about the tired debates of the past.
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#30
#30
Did you notice along the way that his ability to recruit seemed to wain when his staff (ie Rodney Garner, Coach Cutt etc.) left for greener grass

Of course there were times when it fell off.
He was in a class by himself when it came time to get the big-uglies.
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#33
#33
I read alot of posts on here.I agree with some and disagree with some.For those of you that think Tennessee was wrong for firing Fulmer you need to go see a shrink.I liked the guy but he needed to go.If he would have tweeked what he was doing and try to stay 2 steps ahead of the competition he would still be the coach at Tennessee.And he micro-managed the Offense while Randy Sanders was here.That whole mess that was 2005 was all on Fulmer.Then when coach Cuttcliffe leaves he is given a chance to hire a big name offensive wizard to take the offense to another level.He brings in Dave Clawson of all people.The reason why Fulmer never got a big name coach on his staff is because he wanted coaches he could control.Chavis and Cuttcliffe are the only coaches he trusted.Why do you think Alabama is so good.Because Saban lets his assistants do their jobs while stands back and observes.He only butts in when he needs to or when a player or coach does something wrong.That's the mark of a great coach.GO VOLS!!!!!!!
 
#34
#34
When you saw Fulmer's record against Saban, Meyer, Miles, Richt, Tubberville, and Spurrier the case for defending him becomes insane.

How's our record against those coaches/programs since firing Fulmer? Another question would be, who out there has a good record against those coaches/programs?
 
#35
#35
How's our record against those coaches/programs since firing Fulmer? Another question would be, who out there has a good record against those coaches/programs?

Fair question, but Kiffin was 2-3 in '09 (sub Chizik for Tubbs), which was a slight upgrade from Fulmer's 0-5 run in '08.
 
#36
#36
He did win a title then started going down hill, so yea I guess you could say that.

"If you keep on doing what you've always done, you'll keep on getting what you've always got, until the market changes."

The market changed when the rest of the SEC began upgrading coaches. Phil got complacent and relied on the Tradition to translate to results on the field.

Well, they didn't.

Also the OP reference to the Bear's results in the 70's is apples to oranges due to all the changes in the game over the last 40 years.
 
#38
#38
Like the Japanese backing away from that dude who killed a girl in the Sean Connery /Wesley snipes movie.
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In the book, that dude is Japanese. The film totally ruined the entire point of the novel.
 
#40
#40
Fulmer's time was up. Bringing in Kiffin afterwards is what has us in this crap hole position now though.

It's too bad the Fulmer/UT split couldn't have been on better terms and we could have properly hired a suitable replacement. We'd be in much better shape now.
 
#41
#41
Fulmer's time was up. Bringing in Kiffin afterwards is what has us in this crap hole position now though.

It's too bad the Fulmer/UT split couldn't have been on better terms and we could have properly hired a suitable replacement. We'd be in much better shape now.

Totally correct. Kiffin took over a loaded team ready to win the NC.
 
#42
#42
I read alot of posts on here.I agree with some and disagree with some.For those of you that think Tennessee was wrong for firing Fulmer you need to go see a shrink.

Indeed. The shrink can explain to me how losing more games, losing more games by larger margins, losing more often to the top programs, losing more often to the top coaches, losing more often to one's rivals, losing more often to unranked opponents, losing more often to ranked opponents, dropping completely out of the rankings for years on end, disappearing from national relevance, and declining in ticket sales, re-sale prices, merchandise sales, TV audience, game attendance, all while getting sanctioned by the NCAA, is such a wondrous improvement that I should be grateful for his firing.
 
#43
#43
How's our record against those coaches/programs since firing Fulmer? Another question would be, who out there has a good record against those coaches/programs?

2-7. Vegas bookies have us predicted to go 0-4 this year.
 
#44
#44
Focus on the now. Good grief, maybe someone should start making daily posts about Johnny Majors also. It is 2011. It has been 2 full seasons since the man left. He did great things here, but he is gone. Leave it alone.
 
#46
#46
Coach Fulmer fell victim to the "what have you done for me lately" college football world. He had alot of success initially and I believe at the time in 98 he was one of the fastest coaches to win the NC. He couldnt sustain the success and got "lazy" and lost the drive and desire to compete with the Myers,Sabans and Miles. Even Coach Spurrier in my opinion isnt the same coach he was in the early 90's. I am as big a fan of Coach Fulmer that there is and appreciate all he did for UT football but it was time to move on!!! Now was Kiffin the right choice that is a totally different conversation!!!
 
#50
#50
Indeed. The shrink can explain to me how losing more games, losing more games by larger margins, losing more often to the top programs, losing more often to the top coaches, losing more often to one's rivals, losing more often to unranked opponents, losing more often to ranked opponents, dropping completely out of the rankings for years on end, disappearing from national relevance, and declining in ticket sales, re-sale prices, merchandise sales, TV audience, game attendance, all while getting sanctioned by the NCAA, is such a wondrous improvement that I should be grateful for his firing.

I'd feel a lot better if Dooley got to the point where some lunatic had to post a ton of inaccurate and inappropriate stats to support his fallen idol.
 

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