DC hire getting out of hand.

#27
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1TheCoach1 said:
My guess would be the Head Coach saying the staff would be complete on Monday a week ago. I don't care if it takes a little time to get the right person but the HC shouldn't be making public statements about filling out a staff by a certain time and then having a week go by after his official date without having a staff hired. It obviously creates hysteria as you can see.
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maybe he thought he was going to be allowed to make the hire?
 
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Disappointed how things went down with Elliot and Washington.

It's been like Gundy 3.0 then 4.0

If you want a guy, get the deal done.

Whether it was Elliot G-3.0 or Al G-4.0, just get it done.

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To Boyd, Plowman and Dr. D

Coaches / agents going to be like...

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What planet are you guys on???
 
#30
#30
The likely scenario is that Kacy Rodgers has been offered, he and his agent are hammering out details for final approval and/or just spending a day or so to decide. Could also be leveraging us for a bump in salary like everyone else.
If he doesn’t accept, likely that we have Conklin announced over the weekend.
Either way, I expect we’ll know before Monday.

We’ll have a coaching staff very soon, the more pressing issue is how well these guys can recruit given our current situation. Just as we’re struggling to get our first choices for coaching staff, this staff is likely to struggle to recruit given the NCAA issues and our recent won/loss record.

Other programs are definitely gonna remind them.
 
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CA_Vol said:
I in no way said we should hire a DC first and it isn’t conspiracy thinking at all. Good grief.
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Mmkay. Let's check the tape.

You said:

"It is incredibly short sighted and negligent to have hired Heupel without him having a DC ready to go?"

Did you mean that JH should have had a DC ready to go? Meaning that JH should have reached out to whatever DC he wanted, got a verbal confirmation that he would join, then vetted his DC choice with DW prior to accepting the HC job. That is essentially hiring a DC before a HC.

Or, did you mean that DW should have had a DC ready to go? That would require reaching to DC's and getting their commitment to coach as a DC for JH's team before hiring JH. Thus, hiring a DC before a HC.

Let's support that with: "making a head coaching hire who had a very specific deficiency without having that issue already addressed." The only solution would be addressing the DC hire before the HC hire.

Conspiracies:

* How did White not anticipate this ridiculous scenario playing out?
Maybe he did. Maybe he knew it would be hard. Maybe they knew they wanted to vet a bunch of people. Maybe none of what the media reports is true. The point is this belief (that he did not anticipate...) is completely speculative.

* "hiring a DC was not only incredibly important to Heupels success here, but that it might be difficult to do so under normal circumstances"
Based on what? Dude has been at the top of offensive lists in his entire HC career. Maybe there are some DC's out there who like coaching for teams that score points.

"I would imagine a basic point of discussion would be potential staff positions."
What makes you think they didn't have that conversation? You have some inside info, or is that just wild speculation as well?


As a final point, I said "conspiracy-esque." That means kind of like a conspiracy theory. In this case, it is kind of like you have a conspiracy theory that no one at the UTAD's office has a clue what they're doing - while you ignore the obvious answer, contained within your post. The rejection of obvious counterpoints is what makes it "conspiracy-esque."
 
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An AD needs to be comfortable with hires too. Heupel should want White's endorsement. It should be collaborative.

Have some patience. In the past UT has rushed then settled. I'm not disappointed that they are making every effort not to do that even if it takes a little longer.
 
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VolnJC said:
I'll reserve judgement but I'm a tad bit surprised at how DW doesn't expect leaks with a fan base like TN...this isn't UCF...every tidbit could mean page hits or subscribers
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Exactly it’s not like Disney is the biggest thing here.This Is Big a Orange Country..Danny White we don’t care what you did in Orlando or Dallas for that matter.Aight
 
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#49
Not kidding...I have been laughing so hard my side hurts. This stuff is absolutely hilarious. And some of the posters are being played like a cheap accordion and you don't know it...and I'm embarrassed for you. I got to learn how not to take up others humiliation...even when they don't know it. Well played Volnation...well played! SMH
 
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So Heupel’s criticism was his defensive acumen when he was hired by a lot of our fans. So now he is looking for a complimentary match to his offense. He is being cautious, deliberate and secretive. Isn’t that what we want? I’m just not sure I understand the criticism of him or how White became a control freak and puppet master. We were embarrassed as Hell the last coaching hire because everything was leaked. Now it is a more professional and judicious but yet there is still criticism. Maybe some of us just like to complain.
 
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