Current O-Line=bad fit?

#51
#51
Spartacavolus said:
By the way, I don't think Bray has been knocked down yet.

Let's give the line some credit. They are also blocking better and more aggressively. Power running game just isn't UT's game right now. Waiting for it to develop with this set of backs is a waste of energy.
Spread it and sling it.
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Do what you do. Bray to "James " Hunter, CP, and Zack.

Randy Smith ---Play by play guy , called Justin --'James" What an idiot. I know Smith is from Knoxville, is A sports anchor at some TV Station, HTH does he call Hunter----James? LMAO.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
The fact that Young is seeing the field as a running back speaks volumes about our running backs.
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I disagree, he's a playmaker, look at his returns, is the fact that we ran CP in wildcat speaking badly about our RBs. I don't think so.
 
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#54
You nailed it OP and volnpowell. It is a straight zone blocking scheme - no sprint draw features now except when they are in the pistol. Been explaining it for over a year. Fulton, James and Thomas are a step slow. Tiny is quick enough, just inexperienced. Stone is the quickest and very capable. They have even gone to the inside gaps trap block with the guards instead of the counter trey stuff they used to run because they lack quickness getting to the zones in time to create room for the RB. The other side to that is big guys with some athleticism can be great pass blockers - which is exactly what they have. With the great WRs we have - not a bad thing IMO.

Look at who they have recruited for the O-line previously and with the upcoming classes to see where they are going. I think you will see a significant difference and more of a modern version of our lines of the 90s.

They are making do with the current RBs. They do not yet have the all purpose backs they need (D-Green are you listening?). So they send in each one to run what they are capable of and try to run them in other formations/plays for experience when they get the opportunity like today. Example - DY running inside repeatedly today. Trying to get him used to it while finding a style and the plays that work for his size and skillset.

I could not be happier with what I see out of the coaching staff this season. This is just some of what Dooley and Saban call "the process."
 
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KingNick865 said:
Our running backs are very physically talented. They just need to learn to find the gap and hit it when they get the opportunity and stop dancing around in the backfield.

And maybe it's the Knoxville bias in me, but I think Dev Young is more than capable as an SEC back. Maybe not every down, but he can succeed in this league.
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They have to learn how to run the zone. It's one cut and go. If you made the wrong read, you live with it. Once you cut, you get up field and get what you can get.
 
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Vol8188 said:
What's the alternative to zone blocking?

We could run the power play, but do you really think that if our line is too slow to zone block, that they will be fast enough to pull on power?
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Man to man blocking.

It's not about speed necessarily. Power and leverage, Getting low and executing off the snap.
 
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I think a lot can be said for how we shuffle our rb's in and out. We never let one guy really get in a rhythm.
Lanes fumble was unfortunate, but he is clearly the best back on the team.
 
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zjcvols said:
I'm not denying the backs aren't very good...but...

I'm still not seeing a consistent push from the O-Line either.
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we are back to the scheme or the OL again,which do you think it is ,i do have to say i like the way LSU runs it
 
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Crew said:
Man to man blocking.

It's not about speed necessarily. Power and leverage, Getting low and executing off the snap.
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Which is the power play. Which requires pulling a guard.

So if our oline is too slow to zone according to some of you, how will we be fast enough to pull?

Man blocking schemes are garbage anyway.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I think a lot can be said for how we shuffle our rb's in and out. We never let one guy really get in a rhythm.
Lanes fumble was unfortunate, but he is clearly the best back on the team.
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I don't think our backs need to "get in a rhythm". I think rotating backs is great. It forces them to keep their legs pumping and to try and make the most out of each carry. Plus it will pay huge dividends in the second half of close games.
 
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Sorry D. Young is NOT an SEC RB. Eddie Lacy...that's an SEC RB. The fact that D. Young is even considered in the rotation speaks volumes about our talent level. It's probably the weakest position we have on the field, except for kicker.

Can anyone compare these guys to a Montario Hardesty? Absolutely not. Montario had a horrible O Line, HORRIBLE. You are telling me the Sullin boys could lift the jocks of our O Line now? NO, NO, NO. Montario eeked out 1300 yards though, because he is freaking talented.
 
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WooleyDooley2010 said:
Could have a valid point here. In Kiffin's yr in 09 we also ran a zone scheme that to me ran the ball fairly well. Part of that might have been due to the smaller line we had that yr. The Sullins' twins were both a shade under 300lbs if i recall.
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Hardesty hitting the hole going 200 mph helped.
 
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MDBJJC said:
Sorry D. Young is NOT an SEC RB. Eddie Lacy...that's an SEC RB. The fact that D. Young is even considered in the rotation speaks volumes about our talent level. It's probably the weakest position we have on the field, except for kicker.

Can anyone compare these guys to a Montario Hardesty? Absolutely not. Montario had a horrible O Line, HORRIBLE. You are telling me the Sullin boys could lift the jocks of our O Line now? NO, NO, NO. Montario eeked out 1300 yards though, because he is freaking talented.
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Bro. Look who called the plays, are you kidding? If we ran Alabamas style offense our O-line would be eating teams.
 
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#67
Devrin is not even 5'7...don't believe what you read about his physical stats. He's a midget and he weighs a buck nothing. Not saying he's not athletic, but he's an elf. We are about to hit a stretch of real football, smash mouth football. Running between the tackles is how you win in the SEC....it's a concern.
 
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MDBJJC said:
Sorry D. Young is NOT an SEC RB. Eddie Lacy...that's an SEC RB. The fact that D. Young is even considered in the rotation speaks volumes about our talent level. It's probably the weakest position we have on the field, except for kicker.

Can anyone compare these guys to a Montario Hardesty? Absolutely not. Montario had a horrible O Line, HORRIBLE. You are telling me the Sullin boys could lift the jocks of our O Line now? NO, NO, NO. Montario eeked out 1300 yards though, because he is freaking talented.
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wished we had a Hardesty type running back
 
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Here's the problem with the run game:

1. The OL is weak and soft and doesn't have any mean nasty folks. I mean if you can't pound it in on GA St. when you have 1st and goal from the 3, you are a bunch of pansies.

2. The running backs are woefully average. We haven't had a big time talent at running back since Hardesty left. These guys are Sun Belt conference level talent.

3. Chaney can't scheme a running game to save his life. If I was Dooley I'd tell him to find a running game quick or hit the bricks after this year.
 
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SandoVOL said:
Bro. Look who called the plays, are you kidding? If we ran Alabamas style offense our O-line would be eating teams.
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Idk if you are aware or not, but Alabama is also a zone running team. So our running game is very similar.
 
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SandoVOL said:
Bro. Look who called the plays, are you kidding? If we ran Alabamas style offense our O-line would be eating teams.
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Yoiu call the plays based on the talent you have. We don't have the talent to call Alabama style plays, bro.
 
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SandoVOL said:
Bro. Look who called the plays, are you kidding? If we ran Alabamas style offense our O-line would be eating teams.
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No we wouldn't. We aren't a power running team. It's not where our stregth is. If you want coaches that don't play the strengths of their team, I don't know what coach you want.
 
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Didn't see the game today but I think the problem starts with the coaching of Chaney. A lot of you guys are too young to remember but this has been his M.O. all the way back to purdue in the 90's with drew brees. Great passing offense but not any power running game and not much better than 7-4 in the big 10. Like it or not this is what we are going to get with him calling the offensive shots. I say get rid of him once bray and co are gone and bring in an oc who will pound the rock like lsu and bama.
 
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MDBJJC said:
Devrin is not even 5'7...don't believe what you read about his physical stats. He's a midget and he weighs a buck nothing. Not saying he's not athletic, but he's an elf. We are about to hit a stretch of real football, smash mouth football. Running between the tackles is how you win in the SEC....it's a concern.
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When did height become important at RB? How is that relevant?

Shorter guys typically change direction quicker. That's why most corners and rb's aren't very tall.
 
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