Crowder misses practice due to not starting?

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A case where the outcome of job competition did not immediately spark a commitment to self-improvement for the player. Happens. Some handle stuff like this better than others.

Glad he's returning, we will need his contribution.
 
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It's been posted(fwiw) that Kendrick had some older players go to the coaches on his behalf and convinced them to start him.

Wiseman is only starting until jones gets healthy has also been posted.

Who knows how it all happened but as I have already posted jimmyH is cut off if I am making decisions

Where and by whom?
 
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Brett never missed practice.

That's an important distinction Bruin isn't making also. Kendrick was unhappy with his role, but kept showing up and working.

Wiesman also benefitted from Jones being hobbled by injuries recently.

I'm surprised that Crowder missed a practice though. Kid has worked his tail off the past few years. Never seemed like the pouting type.
 
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This is the kind of lazy, sensationalizing media crap that CBJ was trying to curb when he announced his new media policy regarding injuries. The media get's 1/2 or 1/4 of a story and runs with it on twitter (in 140 characters or less) to just stirs things up. No good can come of the media constantly tweeting this kind of "news" which really isn't news just the normal day to day stuff that goes on in lots of college football programs.
 
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Me, me me! We are building a team and this coming from a senior on game week is inexcusable. You don't see Shy and Kmac laying down because they aren't starting. They are the future as the quicker they get on the field the better. Maybe Crowder needs an attitude adjustment. Put either one of them at nosegard during practice, he will straighten up or leave. Frankly no loss here but he is no team player.
 
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If I am CBJ this tweet from jimmyH gets his info cut off.

Absolutely nothing good can come from the public knowing this info. Jimmy has clearly had good sources lately but that would end immediately if I was jones.

If it was anybody else I would agree with you, but I don't think that is the case here.

Jimmy has long been bashed/ridiculed (rightly so most of the time) for posting info that most everybody with a pulse has known (or figured out) for quite some time. He doesn't put something out there that hasn't been backed up by seemingly everyone in the office (not just the 3rd string ball boy's aunt). I don't think he has jumped into the conjecture game after all of these years. I think somebody told him that he could run with this. As a coach, you don't treat all of your players equally. You treat them all fairly in their own way. Perhaps this is an attempt at sending a message. Who knows.....we will never know the whole story of things like this.
 
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I had thought the 247 article said he did but you along with others have said differently.

You sure he didn't miss practice?

The initial report said that he and Wiesman were unhappy and were both given the weekend off to contemplate their future.

Reporters still saw Kendrick at practice over the weekend though, so it seems like he never considered leaving so much as he made his displeasure known.
 
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This is the kind of lazy, sensationalizing media crap that CBJ was trying to curb when he announced his new media policy regarding injuries. The media get's 1/2 or 1/4 of a story and runs with it on twitter (in 140 characters or less) to just stirs things up. No good can come of the media constantly tweeting this kind of "news" which really isn't news just the normal day to day stuff that goes on in lots of college football programs.
Might be right if it wasn't Hyams coming out with it.

People scream for more info and then whine when they get it. Both don't work
 
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The initial report said that he and Wiesman were unhappy and were both given the weekend off to contemplate their future.

Reporters still saw Kendrick at practice over the weekend though, so it seems like he never considered leaving so much as he made his displeasure known.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Makes me feel better about Kendrick for sure
 
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It's been posted(fwiw) that Kendrick had some older players go to the coaches on his behalf and convinced them to start him.
I can see Jones being impressed with something like that if the players came with a good case for saying "he earned it".

Wiseman is only starting until jones gets healthy has also been posted.
:dunno: Suits me. I'm not much of a Weisman fan. He didn't play well last fall imo. I am a very big Jones fan. He's got a nasty streak that makes a difference and can infect others.

Who knows how it all happened but as I have already posted jimmyH is cut off if I am making decisions

With you on that one too.
 
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Weisman and Kendrick skipped practice because they were upset they weren't starting? Didnt know that

Bruin takes something that could be construed as negative and construes the hell out of it.

Kendrick never missed practice but per reporters, voiced his displeasure with lack of playing time to the coaches. Weisman didn't miss practice but was given practice off by the coaches to decide where he wanted his future to be. Big differences in all 3 situations.
 
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Maybe this means Coleman will take over at Center? I'm really hoping that's the case since he's got more size to handle interior defenders. Plus I would cry if Coleman played tackle again.
 
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A case where the outcome of job competition did not immediately spark a commitment to self-improvement for the player. Happens. Some handle stuff like this better than others.

Glad he's returning, we will need his contribution.

If all this is true then I really feel for Crowder. He's worked his tail off and given a lot to UT. I can completely understand his emotions if he's now been passed.
 
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Lol this OL is awful. Only the freshman and sophomores are worth a crap. Bunch of little cry baby upperclassmen. SMH
 
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Bruin takes something that could be construed as negative and construes the hell out of it.

Kendrick never missed practice but per reporters, voiced his displeasure with lack of playing time to the coaches. Weisman didn't miss practice but was given practice off by the coaches to decide where he wanted his future to be. Big differences in all 3 situations.

Maybe he needs to research better...............
 
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I really doubt he missed due to the fact he's not starting. I think what Hyams probably meant was that Crowder missed the practice (for some undisclosed reason) and is now upset because he knows he's not going to start due to that missed practice.
 
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Lol this OL is awful. Only the freshman and sophomores are worth a crap. Bunch of little cry baby upperclassmen. SMH

Catbone! I agree with you! :pepper:

Kerbyson is the exception. He has been pretty unselfish learning to play tackle and doing really well at it, all things considered.
 
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It's been posted(fwiw) that Kendrick had some older players go to the coaches on his behalf and convinced them to start him.

Wiseman is only starting until jones gets healthy has also been posted.

Who knows how it all happened but as I have already posted jimmyH is cut off if I am making decisions

Man you are all over the place. Easy said that DEFENSIVE players went to the coaches on Kendricks behalf and asked them about him at RT. Kendrick didn't solicit players to go to coaches for him.

Also, Kendrick didn't "skip" a practice or even miss one for that matter. Weisman was given time off to decide on future based on injuries and if he wanted to play at a lower level for playing time as his dad pointed out.

Very very different situations.
 
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I mean that tweet could also mean that missed practice, while unconnected to that be upset he isn't starting. It is kind of vague, he could have just said, "Crowder skips practice due to not starting" not "Crowder missed practice, upset about not starting". They are not necessarily connected.
 
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Seems to me like the Knoxville reporters aren't sold on Jones yet. Maybe they are still upset that the Athletic Dept burned them so bad with Kiffin (from "everything's fine and we're moving in the right direction" to "well he left in the middle of the night and violated just about every NCAA violation") When Butch starts winning on a consistant basis and beating our 3 big rivals then they won't be questioning his coaching strategies, hiring decisions, player handling, # of injuries, off the field issues, etc.
 
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This is the kind of lazy, sensationalizing media crap that CBJ was trying to curb when he announced his new media policy regarding injuries. The media get's 1/2 or 1/4 of a story and runs with it on twitter (in 140 characters or less) to just stirs things up. No good can come of the media constantly tweeting this kind of "news" which really isn't news just the normal day to day stuff that goes on in lots of college football programs.

Not only that, but you see quite a few posters in here placing assumptions on top of that (I'd go less than a quarter of the full truth) story in 140 characters or less.

Bruin is right though. What good does this information do anyone? It's nothing more than menial drama to drive attention to the reporter.
 

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