Couple of crazy rumors floating around...

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The "Punch" stayed quiet. I'm not saying nothing happened, but the timing of the way this has been brought to light is considerably suspect.

I would assert that if the Vols were 5-0 or 4-1 this would not be in the forefront or anywhere for that matter.

Cracks are starting to show in Jones exterior - his image and coaching prowess is somewhat tarnished.

I remember not so long ago when certain rumors allegations were being tossed around about Dooley toward the end of his tenure - most did not want to believe them. Then the media starting slowly letting stuff out and then bam he gets fired and the flood gates get opened up.

Point is that when things are not going well on the field often times off the field things start leaking out.....
 
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Swain said he didn't know.
How does everyone keep changing that into having legs?

oleg zeltser ‏@OlegZeltser
@SwainEvent He has no credible source for the question he asked of Butch. Just wanted to embarrass the coach and stand out in a crowd


Jayson Swain
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Jayson Swain ‏@SwainEvent
@OlegZeltser not true. It has legs and is unfortunate
 
Swain said he didn't know.
How does everyone keep changing that into having legs?

Because somebody posted him tweeting to a fan, and the tweet said, it has legs. I'd assume that's why. If I knew which page that was on I'd copy it for you. I'll look and see if I can find it.

Lol others beat me to it.
 
I would assert that if the Vols were 5-0 or 4-1 this would not be in the forefront or anywhere for that matter.

Cracks are starting to show in Jones exterior - his image and coaching prowess is somewhat tarnished.

I remember not so long ago when certain rumors allegations were being tossed around about Dooley toward the end of his tenure - most did not want to believe them. Then the media starting slowly letting stuff out and then bam he gets fired and the flood gates get opened up.

Point is that when things are going well on the field often times off the field things start leaking out.....

Oh, I agree. Just look at the stuff about Kiffin last week. You're not hearing that much about that this week.
 
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Swain is solid. How do you feel about his comments?

Swain has spoken out of both sides. Pretty non-committal.

I've also read the Knox media long enough to know that they'll blow absolutely anything out of proportion when it comes to UT sports
 
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I just took up for him. I don't think it was assault! I still can't stand him but you need to read each post from the beginning instead of jumping in at the end

Really? You said all the players and VFL's hate him. Do me a favor and never stand up for me .
 
OK everyone. I have seen it now.
Sorry, the link I saw said he "hopes Jones sells his way out".
Surprised that he hopes he gets out of it if he believes that Jones did something wrong.
 
Now when have I suggested that but let me clarify I don't believe there is much truth to it and has been ramped up by people who want him to be fired at all costs.

I don't think anyone here, other than Steeler has said definitively it's true. Most who've provided "inside info" have said they heard these rumors 2nd hand, not that believe it to have happened. I think we can all infer they some sort of altercation verbal, physical, punishment etc happened that caused Crowder to skip a practice or two. It may just be him being a baby, who knows.
 
Swain has spoken out of both sides. Pretty non-committal.

I've also read the Knox media long enough to know that they'll blow absolutely anything out of proportion when it comes to UT sports

I saw him do that on the tv show Sunday vs radio monday.
Take two different sides to one issue.
 
I listened to the press conference today and Butch was asked about it and said the rumour was ridiculous. That's about as definitive a statement as he could make. I guess the veracity of the rumour will have to come from witnesses or the player at this point. Beyond that it is idiotic rambling to discuss it further. Like I said. It feeds the agenda of those that want Butch fired so they run with it.

It wasn't addressed as a rumor to Butch. Seth Stokes said he had it on good authority that an altercation occurred, would you like to comment? And Butch said what he said.
 
You tell me why you like him???

I'll chime in if you don't mind:

Because I believe he is try invested in building this thing back to a dynasty. He has passion, he recruits. You may not like his approach or results for that matter. But, the man cares. That was enough to gain my support and I don't jump ship and trash the guy because the W's aren't there yet. Wanting him gone is one thing but the hate speech is ridiculous and immature; especially when directed at a guy who's worked his ass off to right this ship.

Makes his comment about if you're not with him you're against him more valid. A lot of people have attempted to back him into a corner and those are the guys that drew the battle lines!
 
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OK everyone. I have seen it now.
Sorry, the link I saw said he "hopes Jones sells his way out".
Surprised that he hopes he gets out of it if he believes that Jones did something wrong.

That statement was in regards to the mess Jones inherited. He was having a back and forth about wanting Cutcliffe as Dooleys replacement.
 
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