Could we get AJ back?

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#102
As far as legal proceedings go, I got out of a speeding ticket today.

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vavolunteer said:
The amount of time this "investigation" is taking is ludicrous. If AJ is cleared he should sue the pants of the Knoxville PD. How can this investigation go on this long with no charges. Last excuse I heard was that it wasn't done yet because they were transcribing interviews. What is this 1950?

I'll be the first to admit I don't know all the details here, but if this were Florduh AJ would have already had the opportunity to commit three more transgressions and be forgiven for them by now.
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Come on, man, the lithograph machine was busted!

I'm not sure I like this 'guilty before innocent' approach. If coaches want to immediately suspend players at the first sign of allegations, fine but the legal system needs to take that into account and fast track these cases.

Sure, if he's guilty he gets whatever is coming to him but what if he's not???

AJ's name was trashed, he missed his last chance to run through the T, will likely miss a long awaited bowl game (one he helped to get us to,) and may literally lose millions thanks to a drop in draft status. the longer this drags on, the more damage is done to what may very well be an innocent young man.
 
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finn said:
Come on, man, the lithograph machine was busted!

I'm not sure I like this 'guilty before innocent' approach. If coaches want to immediately suspend players at the first sign of allegations, fine but the legal system needs to take that into account and fast track these cases.

Sure, if he's guilty he gets whatever is coming to him but what if he's not???

AJ's name was trashed, he missed his last chance to run through the T, will likely miss a long awaited bowl game (one he helped to get us to,) and may literally lose millions thanks to a drop in draft status. the longer this drags on, the more damage is done to what may very well be an innocent young man.
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Tuscaloosa? Athens? Baton Rouge?
I guarantee charges would have been filed or case dropped long ago.
 
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volfanbill said:
Yes, because all rape cases only take a couple of weeks. People's incompetence for understanding how the real world works beyond a football field is unbelievable.
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This is why idiots who didnt graduate HS shouldnt watch CSI, Law and Order, etc...They think cases are wrapped up in a 30-45 min episode :mega_shok:
 
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vavolunteer said:
The amount of time this "investigation" is taking is ludicrous. If AJ is cleared he should sue the pants of the Knoxville PD. How can this investigation go on this long with no charges. Last excuse I heard was that it wasn't done yet because they were transcribing interviews. What is this 1950?

I'll be the first to admit I don't know all the details here, but if this were Florduh AJ would have already had the opportunity to commit three more transgressions and be forgiven for them by now.
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so if it was your daughter that was claiming rape, you would want the police to rush through the investigation?
 
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volfanbill said:
Yes, because all rape cases only take a couple of weeks. People's incompetence for understanding how the real world works beyond a football field is unbelievable.
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You'll find this to be an extremely common problem in all walks of life.

People who aren't cops and have never been close to becoming one think they can understand how it works and what the process is.

People who aren't doctors/medics think they can diagnose health problems and fix it themselves better than them.

People who aren't politicians criticize and second guess every move as if they could do it better/understand that process.

People who aren't football coaches talk in absolutes as if they understand schemes and recruiting(or in the NFL's case, drafting) better than them.

It's a never ending list in that regard.
 
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Rickyvol said:
This is why idiots who didnt graduate HS shouldnt watch CSI, Law and Order, etc...They think cases are wrapped up in a 30-45 min episode :mega_shok:
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I wouldn't call them non high school graduates. They just think playing football is the only thing in the whole world that matters. Especially if it's being played while wearing Pantone 151.
 
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Titans4Vols said:
You'll find this to be an extremely common problem in all walks of life.

People who aren't cops and have never been close to becoming one think they can understand how it works and what the process is.

People who aren't doctors/medics think they can diagnose health problems and fix it themselves better than them.

People who aren't politicians criticize and second guess every move as if they could do it better/understand that process.

People who aren't football coaches talk in absolutes as if they understand schemes and recruiting(or in the NFL's case, drafting) better than them.

It's a never ending list in that regard.
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100% truth. Got a like.

Everyone is an internet expert.
 
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volfanbill said:
Seeing as he's been fully cooperating with the authorities during the entire process makes the whole "on the loose" a bit of a stretch.
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Wasnt reffering to just AJ but anyone that could be accused - from a lowlife to a high profile citizen
 
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508mikey said:
Wasnt reffering to just AJ but anyone that could be accused - from a lowlife to a high profile citizen
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Still doesn't change the answer. If there were reports of the accused stalking my daughter, continuing to rape and pillage throughout the country, etc, you'd have a story.
 
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508mikey said:
the poster asked if she was 'my daughter' - as a dad - what would you do ?
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what would you do if it was your daughter and she was crying wolf?

it is interesting that nothing ever happens to the girls who lie and ruin the lives of innocent people b/c of their own psychosis, but when the guy is innocent he still is punished. i dont see how it is fair to punish someone even if they havent been convicted of anything yet - i dont even see why the public should hear the name of the charged until they are convicted. can anyone cry rape with no validation and this stuff would happen or does there at least have to be some evidence? (not talking Johnson's case specifically here)
 
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508mikey said:
the poster asked if she was 'my daughter' - as a dad - what would you do ?
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I cringe every time I hear or read the words "what if it was your daughter" or "what if it was your son." That does nothing but elicit an emotional and irrational response.

From my perspective one of the biggest issues facing our country today is that feeling has replaced thinking.

What we need to aspire to is the ability to remain objective and remove as much emotion as possible from these sorts of conversations. Like a judge should recuse themselves from a case involving an immediate family member, the commentariat should recuse themselves from the discussion if they can no longer decipher the difference between emotion and reason.

The exact opposite of the aforementioned aspiration is that idea of 'think about it as if it were your son or daughter.' Thinking about any situation as if it is weighed within our own irrational protection mechanisms reserved for those closest to us almost guarantees a mob style lynching instead of a far more rational, distant, and perhaps colder, outlook. Our collective call to action should be to do everything possible to distance ourselves from the emotion that hypothetically placing our loved ones, our ourselves, in these situations would elicit.

There is a reason we don't give the convicted back to the victim's family. Emotions of that magnitude make people dangerous and an overly emotional person cannot be trusted to make sound decisions. Why then are all conversations about contentious subjects decidedly driven to appeal to emotion instead of reason?

/rant (not directed at you but at the ether)
 
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daj2576 said:
I cringe every time I hear or read the words "what if it was your daughter" or "what if it was your son." That does nothing but elicit an emotional and irrational response.

From my perspective one of the biggest issues facing our country today is that feeling has replaced thinking.

What we need to aspire to is the ability to remain objective and remove as much emotion as possible from these sorts of conversations. Like a judge should recuse themselves from a case involving an immediate family member, the commentariat should recuse themselves from the discussion if they can no longer decipher the difference between emotion and reason.

The exact opposite of the aforementioned aspiration is that idea of 'think about it as if it were your son or daughter.' Thinking about any situation as if it is weighed within our own irrational protection mechanisms reserved for those closest to us almost guarantees a mob style lynching instead of a far more rational, distant, and perhaps colder, outlook. Our collective call to action should be to do everything possible to distance ourselves from the emotion that hypothetically placing our loved ones in these situations would elicit.

There is a reason we don't give the convicted back to the victim's family. Emotions of that magnitude make people dangerous and an overly emotional person cannot be trusted to make sound decisions. Why then are all conversations about contentious subjects decidedly driven to appeal to emotion instead of reason?

/rant (not directed at you but at the ether)
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Wow.....how many times have I had this conversation. I've quit having it because people get mad, lol. But yeah, awesome post. It seems the ability to reason and argue dispassionately are dying arts.
 
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VFL1953 said:
Wow.....how many times have I had this conversation. I've quit having it because people get mad, lol. But yeah, awesome post. It seems the ability to reason and argue dispassionately are dying arts.
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The irony in your statement is painful. I have experienced it. When you attempt to reason with someone about a topic, they respond emotionally. I don't understand why 'feeling' is given so much credence, and 'thinking' is discarded. It should be the inverse.

My dog feels, but it doesn't mean he has anything to offer the debate about rape, or abortion, or hunger, or the economy. That's the problem, feeling is base and requires very little illumination or discernment, yet it is the part of the debate that everyone wants to participate in.

It is as if before every conversation we should just kick each other in the crotch as hard as we can just to make sure that nothing productive can be accomplished due to the wailing and gnashing of teeth. I am dumbfounded.
 
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We should all strive to be perfect little computers.

However, that is not the human condition. Without feeling, what's the point of being alive?
 
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