Could Majors have won a NC here?

Would Majors have eventually won a NC here?

  • Yes

    Votes: 85 42.5%

  • No

    Votes: 115 57.5%
  • Total voters
    200
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#151
#151
BornAndRaisedVOL! said:
No. He would have never made it past the major roadblock for the Vols in the 90's. Steve Spurrier. Yes, I know Majors beat him 45-3 in their first meeting, but make no mistake, Spurrier would have ended up eating Major's lunch just like he did Fulmer.
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I don’t believe that. Majors had a special ability pull off the stupidest wins nobody expected
 
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#153
#153
The difference of Johnny at Pitt and Johnny at Tennessee was the number of scholarship players. At Pitt, with Dorsett, at that time, schools had unlimited scholarships, I believe. When Johnny came home, I believe there was a set number of 85 scholarships.
 
#157
#157
OrangeInKy said:
That 89 team I’ve always thought was his best from a talent standpoint. 89,90,91 seasons were just stacked.
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dieseldaddy said:
Technically, he won 2 ,in 85 and 89, Tennessee just doesn't claim them. I still say the 89 team is the best team i ever saw.
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Except for Major’s yearly (burp) against Bama and whatever BC was, that ‘87 team was fairly good as well.

The ‘85 and ‘89 SEC came at the hands of Florida being placed on probation.
 
#158
#158
#1fulmerite said:
Except for Major’s yearly (burp) against Bama and whatever BC was, that ‘87 team was fairly good as well.

The ‘85 and ‘89 SEC came at the hands of Florida being placed on probation.
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That stupid tie vs Barn in '87...
 
#160
#160
he wouldn't have gotten it done. back then Tennessee was losing games it had no business losing.... oh wait.

kidding asside do you really think Majors would have had better luck once Spurrier got hot at Florida? highly doubt the results would have been any different.
 
#162
#162
cyclevol said:
Absolutely the most talented team ever. Pickins, Morgan, Harper, Webb and Kelly. That Bama loss was inexcusable.
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He lost it not having his QB settled (Kelly over Henton) going into that game & not having Pickens at safety by then. Once he made those two changes, (after LSU game) they were pretty tough
 
#163
#163
#1fulmerite said:
Do you think had he not been let go in favor of Fulmer during the ‘92 season, he would have won a NC here and, if so, before the ‘98 season?

Regardless if he had stayed out the ‘92 season or won the power struggle, Fulmer would have been gone to another program. Would Fulmer have taken coaches with him or would they have stayed? I, for one, was glad that we, the legions of the miserables had Fulmer and thus our ‘98 NC. But, had Majors remained the HC, I don’t ever see him winning a NC. Now, to be fair, it took Fulmer many years to get us to the top. Seems Johnny’s teams were too up and down week to week. Beat a good Florida team then turn around and lose to a good Bama team then tie an average to good team like Auburn.

Also, seems to me the coaching style difference between the two also separates them. Fulmer was more of a players coach and more hands on; at a time we need both.
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Well, since that is my era here’s how I see it. Majors inherited an absolute dumpster fire, scholarship restrictions had gone into effect and it took him until season 9 to win an SEC title, and of course the great 85 team win in the Sugar Bowl Is still one of my favorite games I ever attended. Fulmer inherited a culture of winning and a loaded cupboard and won it all in 98. He never won another championship at any level again. I am of the belief Fulmer would never have won without the rebuild from Majors. I also think the drinking of Johnny would have kept him from getting another one. I can only remember 1 game in the history of Fulmer that I said so, what a great coaching job. However, in fairness and balance I was at the 1990 Bama Tn game where Majors had the lead in a close game and played not to lose and then we did. Very painful even now to recall. It took Fulmer 5 seasons with a very good program inherited from Mahors to win back to SEC title and the NC. Majors won 3 SEC after rebuilding. So, the debate is ongoing with my belief that Majors did more with less.
 
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#165
Woodlawn VOL said:
He nearly did in 1985, had there been a playoff that year I wouldn’t have bet against us! We had a great team in 1989 as well.GBO!
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That 85 team only even won the SEC because Florida was on probation. I’ll grant their chances at a playoff, but they finished 3 games that year without a win. That isn’t very close to a championship.

89 was a Bama loss away
 
#166
#166
beamerman said:
Well, since that is my era here’s how I see it. Majors inherited an absolute dumpster fire, scholarship restrictions had gone into effect and it took him until season 9 to win an SEC title, and of course the great 85 team win in the Sugar Bowl Is still one of my favorite games I ever attended. Fulmer inherited a culture of winning and a loaded cupboard and won it all in 98. He never won another championship at any level again. I am of the belief Fulmer would never have won without the rebuild from Majors. I also think the drinking of Johnny would have kept him from getting another one. I can only remember 1 game in the history of Fulmer that I said so, what a great coaching job. However, in fairness and balance I was at the 1990 Bama Tn game where Majors had the lead in a close game and played not to lose and then we did. Very painful even now to recall. It took Fulmer 5 seasons with a very good program inherited from Mahors to win back to SEC title and the NC. Majors won 3 SEC after rebuilding. So, the debate is ongoing with my belief that Majors did more with less.
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What’s the one game where you thought Fulmer did a great job coaching? I can think of several.
 
#167
#167
Hacksaw said:
I don't think most of us thought so at the time.
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I know the whole of the 8th floor of the guys' side of Clement Hall didn't think so in 1992. We even hung a banner from the roof of the dorm stoically declaring our position at the time.
 
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#168
#168
I'd have really liked to have seen what a healthy Webb could have done in a full season in '90. Impossible to say that would have led to a title but, with all due respect, if TT managed 1200+ yards on that offense Webb was going to be Heisman hunting and could have made the difference.
 
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#170
#170
beamerman said:
Well, since that is my era here’s how I see it. Majors inherited an absolute dumpster fire, scholarship restrictions had gone into effect and it took him until season 9 to win an SEC title, and of course the great 85 team win in the Sugar Bowl Is still one of my favorite games I ever attended. Fulmer inherited a culture of winning and a loaded cupboard and won it all in 98. He never won another championship at any level again. I am of the belief Fulmer would never have won without the rebuild from Majors. I also think the drinking of Johnny would have kept him from getting another one. I can only remember 1 game in the history of Fulmer that I said so, what a great coaching job. However, in fairness and balance I was at the 1990 Bama Tn game where Majors had the lead in a close game and played not to lose and then we did. Very painful even now to recall. It took Fulmer 5 seasons with a very good program inherited from Mahors to win back to SEC title and the NC. Majors won 3 SEC after rebuilding. So, the debate is ongoing with my belief that Majors did more with less.
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Yep. Seems to be the recipe at most programs. Majors brought TN back to relevance and Fulmer took us to prominence. But Fulmer, like most coaches, had some luck along the way too. And like Majors, had a penchant for losing games that we had no business losing. Especially with the talent he had on some of the rosters. Regardless, most UT fans that know Majors laid the foundation for Fulmer to win a NC. But let's face it, no Tennessee team was beating those mid-90's Nebraska teams, and I don't think TN would have beat Miami in 2001 had TN won the SECCG. I wish Majors would have won a championship here. You aren't a true Tennessean if don't love you some Johnny Majors....especially the football player.
 
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#171
LegionnaireOfTheMiserable said:
That 85 team only even won the SEC because Florida was on probation. I’ll grant their chances at a playoff, but they finished 3 games that year without a win. That isn’t very close to a championship.

89 was a Bama loss away
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In all fairness, Florida was literally “the best team money could buy” in ‘84 & ‘85. Players were shown shoe boxes full of cash on signing day. CNN named it “Gator Gate”. If a team ever deserved being ineligible for SEC it was Charlie Pell’s Gators.
 
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#172
UTFranklinVol said:
he wouldn't have gotten it done. back then Tennessee was losing games it had no business losing.... oh wait.

kidding asside do you really think Majors would have had better luck once Spurrier got hot at Florida? highly doubt the results would have been any different.
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I think Majors would have handled Spurrier better than Fulmer. Just from a mental standpoint. Spurrier was in Fulmer's head, 100%. But I guess Spurrier was in all our heads at that time :)
 
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#173
#173
wmcovol said:
In all fairness, Florida was literally “the best team money could buy” in ‘84 & ‘85. Players were shown shoe boxes full of cash on signing day. CNN named it “Gator Gate”. If a team ever deserved being ineligible for SEC it was Charlie Pell’s Gators.
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Yeah, and winning after losing TRob against Bama. That 85 team had more heart than talent. That Miami SB win is legendary. Not sure Tn had any position player comparable with Miami players.
 
#174
#174
TC 83 said:
I think Majors would have handled Spurrier better than Fulmer. Just from a mental standpoint. Spurrier was in Fulmer's head, 100%. But I guess Spurrier was in all our heads at that time :)
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Bama was in Major’s head. I could see Spurrier doing a Bama something to Majors.
 
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