Could JT Shrout play in the last four games?

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Volman365 said:
Jalen Hurts was not an overly elite recruit. Some services even had him as a 3 star player.
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Hurts won the starting job as a freshman because Saban had 2 other backups that never panned out on that roster. Hurts saved their ass that season!
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Hurts won the starting job as a freshman because Saban had 2 other backups that never panned out on that roster. Hurts saved their ass that season!
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Just responding to you claiming they were two of the biggest QB recruits of the last 10 years. Bryant was a big recruit, Hurts was a project.
 
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Volman365 said:
Just responding to you claiming they were two of the biggest QB recruits of the last 10 years. Bryant was a big recruit, Hurts was a project.
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Wasn't Bryant pretty far down as far as QBs go in that class? Hurts was nowhere close to being the biggest QB recruit in the last 10 years.
 
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Volman365 said:
Jalen Hurts was not an overly elite recruit. Some services even had him as a 3 star player.
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JG was rated higher out of high school than Hurts, but most services that do rankings are fraudulent and cater to "their" kids. Star rankings are a joke and most in the industry agree on that principle. Look up all those big recruiting experts, most of them have been sued multiple times.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
JG was rated higher out of high school than Hurts, but most services that do rankings are fraudulent and cater to "their" kids. Star rankings are a joke and most in the industry agree on that principle. Look up all those big recruiting experts, most of them have been sued multiple times.
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You have an example of one being sued? Just curious
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
You just compared our 2 backups to 2 of the top QB recruits to ever commit. Our backups are nothing similar to those 2 guys. The whole point is that JG is the #1 guy on our roster and that's not going to change unless #2 or 3 improve significantly.
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Actually, he did not compare our QB's to Hurts or Bryant. You said (within our program), JG would start next year as long as we don't finish out 4-8 or so. He countered by saying within those 2 programs, their record meant nothing when the better QB came along. Point being, that they don't recruit backups since they already have a starter. they recruited QB's that could compete to be the starter and it's up to them not to be the backup.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Wasn't Bryant pretty far down as far as QBs go in that class? Hurts was nowhere close to being the biggest QB recruit in the last 10 years.
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Not talking about Hurts, talking about Tua. They said because Bama and Clemson went to their backups, so should Tn. Bummers and Clemson's backups were 2 of the most decorated QBs ever recruited.
 
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TennesseeTarheel said:
Would you really want a QB's first college experience be behind this sketchy offense? Couldn't that really warp his development? Is JG fully to blame for his errors of judgement, or, does an unreliable OL have something to do with how he processes the play? I'd say, unless the OL shows they can defend the rush at least 80% of the time, don't put the pink meat on the field. (well, unless he can scamper and throw better on the run).
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If he is that fragile mentally, he will never make it at UT anyway. Our good fan base and VolNation will eat him alive, whether he is good, great or fair.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
JG was rated higher out of high school than Hurts, but most services that do rankings are fraudulent and cater to "their" kids. Star rankings are a joke and most in the industry agree on that principle. Look up all those big recruiting experts, most of them have been sued multiple times.
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So you are saying that team recruiting rankings dont matter?? So if I go back and look that Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St, and Georgia wont have the top ranked classes in the last 4 years or so??
 
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BearCat204 said:
You have an example of one being sued? Just curious
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Not hard for you to find and not my way of putting folks on blast that have done me no harm. Recruiting services get sued all the time, it's common knowledge in the industry. I know of only 1 that is A+ rated over 30+ years that has never had a lawsuit filed against and I'm sure there are others, but not many and certainly not any in this area.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
Not hard for you to find and not my way of putting folks on blast that have done me no harm. Recruiting services get sued all the time, it's common knowledge in the industry. I know of only 1 that is A+ rated over 30+ years that has never had a lawsuit filed against and I'm sure there are others, but not many and certainly not any in this area.
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How could you sue someone for not making you a "4 star" instead of a "3 star". No judge in the world would take that case. Beyond frivolous
 
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Volman365 said:
So you are saying that team recruiting rankings dont matter?? So if I go back and look that Alabama, Clemson, Ohio St, and Georgia wont have the top ranked classes in the last 4 years or so??
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Nope, they do matter, just saying not much difference in the top guys and not much difference in a 3 and 4 star. Size speed and strength are the 3 keys to recruiting, not stars.
 
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Volman365 said:
How could you sue someone for not making you a "4 star" instead of a "3 star". No judge in the world would take that case. Beyond frivolous
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Recruiting services do a lot more than just rank players, those camps and showcases are not free.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
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Not talking about Hurts, talking about Tua. They said because Bama and Clemson went to their backups, so should Tn. Bummers and Clemson's backups were 2 of the most decorated QBs ever recruited.
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I understand that Tua and Lawrence are on a different level, I know we don’t have a QB like them on our roster. I didn’t say we should go with the backup just that it’s not guaranteed that JG will start next year there will be a competition
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
So if we finish 7-6 with a bowl win, something nobody thought we'd do before the season started, and JG plays the entire way you're still going to argue those two deficiencies against what will be some very solid numbers?
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CJP will recruit over him if he can and put the best guy on the field. The ONLY reason that he is there now is for insurance purposes against the 2019 QB. The absolute fear of most VN'rs to actually let KC play some meaningful snaps is close to a psychosis.
 
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Volman365 said:
Currently, how many teams in the SEC outside if Kentucky and Arkansas would trade starting QBs with us????
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But to answer your question more specifically, he’s better than Franks, Burrow, Sridharan, Bentley, Storey, and Wilson statistically with no line to give time to find secondary receivers.
 
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GVF said:
Actually, he did not compare our QB's to Hurts or Bryant. You said (within our program), JG would start next year as long as we don't finish out 4-8 or so. He countered by saying within those 2 programs, their record meant nothing when the better QB came along. Point being, that they don't recruit backups since they already have a starter. they recruited QB's that could compete to be the starter and it's up to them not to be the backup.
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Good grief, the 2 backups at Alabama and Clemson that are now starting were 2 of the best QB recruits in years. They replaced less talented QBs than them. TN is not similar in that our current backups are no where near as highly decorated as Tua and the guy at Clemson who now starts, nor are any of our current backups as good as JG in the eyes of our coach.
 
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PulaskiVolFan said:
JG was rated higher out of high school than Hurts, but most services that do rankings are fraudulent and cater to "their" kids. Star rankings are a joke and most in the industry agree on that principle. Look up all those big recruiting experts, most of them have been sued multiple times.
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I figured it out. This is D4H!!! Took me a while but I nailed you.
 
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