Coronavirus (No politics)

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chrismc1000 said:
Names of anything that's monumental change over time depending on the moment in history. Still doesn't negate the fact that today's pandemic is Chinese virus
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Not sure where you live, but nobody I know of or any politicians or anyone on the news still use the term to describe COVID-19. In fact if you do a basic Google search, the only results comes back are ones that criticizing the usage.

I don’t care if you use it but you seem to think a majority of the people use it, thankfully you are wrong and this country is a better place, instead it’s a small loud ignorant group of people that continue to use the xenophobic phrase.

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1967vol said:
I do believe natural immunity is at least as effective as the vaccine. But, what are you suggesting about this? Do you recommend that people get infected in order to get natural immunity, or take the vaccine in order to get their protection against bad outcomes of the virus?
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No. I am recommending honesty from our "officials" first and foremost. Second, I would like to see everyone get an antibody test before taking the vaccine. That would be a simple, honest way to let people make an informed decision. I paid for my own a few weeks ago. At 7 months post infection, I still have antibodies. I will continue to take the test every 6 months or so unless and until a vaccine I believe in comes out or I have no immunity.

I'm not anti-vax. If there were a traditional vaccine available without the unknowns of the offered vaccines then I would consider it.

One fear I have that applies to others is what the vaccine might do to one's natural immunity if they have a breakthrough case. Will they still have a near 100% immunity or will the vaccine interfere with the body's ability to do that?

And I know you know that there have been people who have been infected more than once.
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Actually we don't. There are two specific studies available publicly that I am aware of addressing the efficacy and durability of natural immunity. Both study groups that had detectable antibodies several weeks after recovery. I do not think they included those who had it and did not have antibodies at that point. As the studies continued with focus on that group... none were reinfected. They weren't huge sample groups. One I believe was around 70 people. But if there were going to be large numbers of break throughs you'd expect some even in a small group.

This is a little dated but appears to include anyone who was previously infected without regard for whether they maintained antibody memory. Still quite a bit better than any of the vaccines.

Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%
 
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sjt18 said:
Not sure where you are but your experience is not aligned with the overall state ICU bed usage. About 2/3's are in use for ALL causes across NC. A little less than half or about 1/3 are Covid patients.
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My patient here on day #11 in the ER is waitlisted at 47 different facilities.
 
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sjt18 said:
Not sure where you are but your experience is not aligned with the overall state ICU bed usage. About 2/3's are in use for ALL causes across NC. A little less than half or about 1/3 are Covid patients.
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Every hospital in the region here is on EMS diversion the majority of the time, if not round the clock, for any EMS service that isn’t based in that county or that the hospital is contractually bound to accept. We’ve been on diversion for over two weeks now, which was the first time this had occurred in at least 27 years.
 
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Regulator said:
Every hospital in the region here is on EMS diversion the majority of the time, if not round the clock, for any EMS service that isn’t based in that county or that the hospital is contractually bound to accept. We’ve been on diversion for over two weeks now, which was the first time this had occurred in at least 27 years.
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That really is bad. It seems to be an anomaly though. MO's recent spike isn't as bad as the one earlier in the year and we didn't strain our ICU or ventilator resources.

PS- which county are you in? I'm from western NC originally.
 
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sjt18 said:
That really is bad. It seems to be an anomaly though. MO's recent spike isn't as bad as the one earlier in the year and we didn't strain our ICU or ventilator resources.

PS- which county are you in? I'm from western NC originally.
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Jackson
 
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Volprofch05 said:
I'd argue it's more that once we collectively latch onto an accepted name, then it becomes set in stone, even if our understanding of the situation changes considerably over time. And yes, I'm not debating the origins of the current pandemic. Ironically, theories of the origins of the 1918 pandemic have pointed to France, Britain, the US, or China. If the latter is true then you'd have to differentiate between two "Chinese viruses."
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I'd say people are becoming more and more weak. Remember sticks and stones? You know the sticks and stones actually hurting you and words that dont?
 
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1967vol said:
I do believe natural immunity is at least as effective as the vaccine. But, what are you suggesting about this? Do you recommend that people get infected in order to get natural immunity, or take the vaccine in order to get their protection against bad outcomes of the virus? And I know you know that there have been people who have been infected more than once.
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Natural immunity does more than combat this virus though. It kills off people naturally. That's a hard statement to say and be ok with as we all would agree that we don't want our loved ones and friends etc... being killed. But taking emotion out of it that's how this world survived for centuries. Earth is over populated and viruses get deadlier by the day due to our science. Eventually something will give and it won't be the virus.
 
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And not one realizes it until it’s too late.

Florida father regrets not getting COVID-19 vaccine after 15-year-old daughter dies | WGN-TV

Hector Ramirez says he’s now thinking of getting vaccinated. He didn’t get the shot for his daughter, and he regrets it.

“It’s something that’s going to be stuck with me for my whole life, thinking maybe I should have done that sooner,” he said. “Maybe I could’ve done something to help prevent this.”

He says Victoria was healthy, but that changed quickly. He urged more people, especially parents, to take COVID-19 seriously.

“I don’t want any other parent to go through what I did — seeing my daughter perfectly healthy one day, then following a week and a half, she’s gone,” he said.
 
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chrismc1000 said:
I'd say people are becoming more and more weak. Remember sticks and stones? You know the sticks and stones actually hurting you and words that dont?
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I agree that people are offended too easily these days and have no problem with you calling it whatever you like. I had just been reading about the history of the 1918 flu recently and found it interesting.
 
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mad4vols said:
And not one realizes it until it’s too late.

Florida father regrets not getting COVID-19 vaccine after 15-year-old daughter dies | WGN-TV

Hector Ramirez says he’s now thinking of getting vaccinated. He didn’t get the shot for his daughter, and he regrets it.

“It’s something that’s going to be stuck with me for my whole life, thinking maybe I should have done that sooner,” he said. “Maybe I could’ve done something to help prevent this.”

He says Victoria was healthy, but that changed quickly. He urged more people, especially parents, to take COVID-19 seriously.

“I don’t want any other parent to go through what I did — seeing my daughter perfectly healthy one day, then following a week and a half, she’s gone,” he said.
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Being vaccinated wouldn't have prevented him from spreading COVID to his daughter.
 
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mad4vols said:
And not one realizes it until it’s too late.

Florida father regrets not getting COVID-19 vaccine after 15-year-old daughter dies | WGN-TV

Hector Ramirez says he’s now thinking of getting vaccinated. He didn’t get the shot for his daughter, and he regrets it.

“It’s something that’s going to be stuck with me for my whole life, thinking maybe I should have done that sooner,” he said. “Maybe I could’ve done something to help prevent this.”

He says Victoria was healthy, but that changed quickly. He urged more people, especially parents, to take COVID-19 seriously.

“I don’t want any other parent to go through what I did — seeing my daughter perfectly healthy one day, then following a week and a half, she’s gone,” he said.
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Did you get bored of posting this crap in the politics thread, and decide to take the gimmick over here?
 
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Debating if me and my wife should still go to Disney world in mid November we are both vaccinated but is it wise to get on a plane with this covid still going strong and what will things look like two months from now? Hopefully better but the way things have gone you have to prepare for the worst and what new variant will be in the mix? I was thinking last January that with the combination of the vaccines and herd immunity that things would be better by this time now nearly 20 months into this pandemic but unfortunately I was wrong.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Debating if me and my wife should still go to Disney world in mid November we are both vaccinated but is it wise to get on a plane with this covid still going strong and what will things look like two months from now? Hopefully better but the way things have gone you have to prepare for the worst and what new variant will be in the mix? I was thinking last January that with the combination of the vaccines and herd immunity that things would be better by this time now nearly 20 months into this pandemic but unfortunately I was wrong.
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You should stay at home. In fact, you should never leave your house at all.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Debating if me and my wife should still go to Disney world in mid November we are both vaccinated but is it wise to get on a plane with this covid still going strong and what will things look like two months from now? Hopefully better but the way things have gone you have to prepare for the worst and what new variant will be in the mix? I was thinking last January that with the combination of the vaccines and herd immunity that things would be better by this time now nearly 20 months into this pandemic but unfortunately I was wrong.
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I'm going to Universal (first HHN), SeaWorld and Busch Gardens in October and December. Can't wait.

My 75 yo mother just flew to London for a few weeks. Seems to doing fine upon her return.
 
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BigOrangeAl 1979 said:
Debating if me and my wife should still go to Disney world in mid November we are both vaccinated but is it wise to get on a plane with this covid still going strong and what will things look like two months from now? Hopefully better but the way things have gone you have to prepare for the worst and what new variant will be in the mix? I was thinking last January that with the combination of the vaccines and herd immunity that things would be better by this time now nearly 20 months into this pandemic but unfortunately I was wrong.
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Flying is super safe.
 
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