College coaches quitting

[76volman]

As the new world of college football is ending it's first year of the playoffs, NIL and Portal are becoming the two biggest reasons for great and not so great football coaches quitting the game. Saban could see the future of college football and he didn't like what he saw. Now you have Boise State offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter announcing his retirement stating it was those two biggest reasons for his quitting football. I think this is just the beginning of a major shift in college coaching, not only in football, but also in basketball. It really is coming down who is going to be the best manager or management staff along with what teams can muster the $$$MILLIONS of dollars for their players. Wonder who is going to be next?

 

[volfeeva]

Can't blame them for wanting no part of the mess . It's nothing but a massive distraction from what they hired on to do = coach football.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So many in here made fun if Saban for retiring. Said he quit because “he couldn’t compete on a level playing field.” So dumb. Now you see why he quit. Imagine having to put up with this ridiculous crap in your early 70s.

I mean as a coach you have to constantly re-recruit everyone of your players. Gotta make sure to keep everyone happy or they just leave. Players have a decent year? Time for more money. It’s ridiculous.

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

As the new world of college football is ending it's first year of the playoffs, NIL and Portal are becoming the two biggest reasons for great and not so great football coaches quitting the game. Saban could see the future of college football and he didn't like what he saw. Now you have Boise State offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter announcing his retirement stating it was those two biggest reasons for his quitting football. I think this is just the beginning of a major shift in college coaching, not only in football, but also in basketball. It really is coming down who is going to be the best manager or management staff along with what teams can muster the $$$MILLIONS of dollars for their players. Wonder who is going to be next?

Adapt, quit, or die.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

They will transition to contracts. Coaches can't manage rosters at this rate.

 

[95 Vol Alum]

So many in here made fun if Saban for retiring. Said he quit because “he couldn’t compete on a level playing field.” So dumb. Now you see why he quit. Imagine having to put up with this ridiculous crap in your early 70s.

I mean as a coach you have to constantly re-recruit everyone of your players. Gotta make sure to keep everyone happy or they just leave. Players have a decent year? Time for more money. It’s ridiculous.

ADs and owners probably could commiserate since coaches often do the same.

 

[JohnnyJava]

So many in here made fun if Saban for retiring. Said he quit because “he couldn’t compete on a level playing field.” So dumb. Now you see why he quit. Imagine having to put up with this ridiculous crap in your early 70s.

I mean as a coach you have to constantly re-recruit everyone of your players. Gotta make sure to keep everyone happy or they just leave. Players have a decent year? Time for more money. It’s ridiculous.

You mean the guy who went from Kent State to Syracuse to West Virginia to Ohio State to Navy to Michigan State to Houston Oilers to Toldeo to Cleveland Browns back to Michigan State to LSU to Miami Dolphins to Alabama all in pursuit of bettering his life with better career opportunities couldn't handle college kids playing at two or even three schools in their career? For most of these players, the money they make from NIL in college will be all they ever make from the game of football.

Kent State (GA)
1975–1976	Kent State (LB)
1977	Syracuse (OLB)
1978–1979	West Virginia (DB)
1980–1981	Ohio State (DB)
1982	Navy (DB)
1983–1987	Michigan State (DC/DB)
1988–1989	Houston Oilers (DB)
1990	Toledo
1991–1994	Cleveland Browns (DC)
1995–1999	Michigan State
2000–2004	LSU
2005–2006	Miami Dolphins
2007–2023	Alabama

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

So many in here made fun if Saban for retiring. Said he quit because “he couldn’t compete on a level playing field.” So dumb. Now you see why he quit. Imagine having to put up with this ridiculous crap in your early 70s.

I mean as a coach you have to constantly re-recruit everyone of your players. Gotta make sure to keep everyone happy or they just leave. Players have a decent year? Time for more money. It’s ridiculous.

Bill Belichick walking into college ball is the head scratcher for me.

I know he's getting his kid a sure thing job and I assume that's the primary motivation but I don't think he realizes that the era of the grizzly old rectal sphincter coach is over.

Unless he's following the Joey Freshwater playbook, I don't get it at all.

 

[hog88]

I can see the end of the 60-70 year old head coaches, will probably see more and more coaches retiring in their 50's or making the move to the NFL before they get there.

 

[207 others]

NFL coaches will do good here. I think UNC will prove it. Knowing about salary caps and sellout players and trash pro football culture goes to their advantage.

 

[05_never_again]

NFL coaches will do good here. I think UNC will prove it. Knowing about salary caps and sellout players and trash pro football culture goes to their advantage.

I imagine NFL coaches getting just as frustrated with it. There is no salary cap with NIL, and NFL coaches don't have to re-recruit their own players every year.

 

[Nico ee-ah-MAH-LAY-ah-va]

As the new world of college football is ending it's first year of the playoffs, NIL and Portal are becoming the two biggest reasons for great and not so great football coaches quitting the game. Saban could see the future of college football and he didn't like what he saw. Now you have Boise State offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter announcing his retirement stating it was those two biggest reasons for his quitting football. I think this is just the beginning of a major shift in college coaching, not only in football, but also in basketball. It really is coming down who is going to be the best manager or management staff along with what teams can muster the $$$MILLIONS of dollars for their players. Wonder who is going to be next?

First some with quit, then schools will get desperate and will start upping contract salaries. Coaching salaries are about to explode as the job is much harder now.

 

[Delmar]

I imagine NFL coaches getting just as frustrated with it. There is no salary cap with NIL, and NFL coaches don't have to re-recruit their own players every year.

Yep. NFL players can’t leave on a whim when they are tied to contracts. College players can transfer anytime they like and there’s nothing the coach can do about it. I think Belicheck is in for a rude awakening.

 

[Firebirdparts]

One of the ironies of overpaying people. The more you pay the faster the smart ones can quit.

 

[Cafego's Ghost]

Yep. NFL players can’t leave on a whim when they are tied to contracts. College players can transfer anytime they like and there’s nothing the coach can do about it. I think Belicheck is in for a rude awakening.

For the can’t miss prospects, why not lock in a player for more than one year?

 

[Delmar]

For the can’t miss prospects, why not lock in a player for more than one year?

How can you lock them in? Only way they can do that is declare them employees and sign them to a contract and that hasn’t happened yet. In my view, that’s the only solution to the transfer portal.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

There definitely needs to be contacts put in place

 

[VolinMichigan]

As the new world of college football is ending it's first year of the playoffs, NIL and Portal are becoming the two biggest reasons for great and not so great football coaches quitting the game. Saban could see the future of college football and he didn't like what he saw. Now you have Boise State offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter announcing his retirement stating it was those two biggest reasons for his quitting football. I think this is just the beginning of a major shift in college coaching, not only in football, but also in basketball. It really is coming down who is going to be the best manager or management staff along with what teams can muster the $$$MILLIONS of dollars for their players. Wonder who is going to be next?

I mean, the NFL works on the same model. There needs to be an expansion of staff for every school to accommodate the increased recruiting responsibilities, but the guys who coach the teams are going to be coaches, not GMs.

 

[Voltopia]

Coaches who found joy in helping young players develop from untested freshmen into capable men have less and less reason to stick around this mess.

What is there to teach to someone who's already making a quarter to a half a million dollars a year? They've already achieved their success. They may take your advice, they may not.

When any adverse motivation can send someone to the portal, what room is there to instill or demand? You cannot insist, you can only ask. And in a market where players have all the power, you have to ask nicely.

 

[Orangepantsforever]

Coaches who found joy in helping young players develop from untested freshmen into capable men have less and less reason to stick around this mess.

What is there to teach to someone who's already making a quarter to a half a million dollars a year? They've already achieved their success. They may take your advice, they may not.

When any adverse motivation can send someone to the portal, what room is there to instill or demand? You cannot insist, you can only ask. And in a market where players have all the power, you have to ask nicely.

Exactly. The proverbial carrot that most of us chase isn’t in place. Something has to equal out. No business model works like this.
Also, if people receive generational wealth by 22 (without really doing anything), and choose to forego their education, how does that bode for their impact on society for the next 60-70 years. And I dare say that many “handlers” will “handle” said athlete’s wealth, and leave a financially and socially bankrupt individual.
And we, as the consumer, have contributed to this mess. Let’s not forget, we made it through a pandemic without most sports……and we survived just fine.

 

[Cafego's Ghost]

How can you lock them in? Only way they can do that is declare them employees and sign them to a contract and that hasn’t happened yet. In my view, that’s the only solution to the transfer portal.

No, simply signing a free market contract does not make you an employee. As well, such a contract would be with the NIL, not the college, so there is that.

 

[Voltopia]

Exactly. The proverbial carrot that most of us chase isn’t in place. Something has to equal out. No business model works like this.
Also, if people receive generational wealth by 22 (without really doing anything), and choose to forego their education, how does that bode for their impact on society for the next 60-70 years. And I dare say that many “handlers” will “handle” said athlete’s wealth, and leave a financially and socially bankrupt individual.
And we, as the consumer, have contributed to this mess. Let’s not forget, we made it through a pandemic without most sports……and we survived just fine.

Cue the people who come in guns blazing with "it was never about education, that's stupid."

Even though the vast vast majority of players, including most of the players at the big premier Division I programs, never even sniff an NFL practice roster. And the NCAA spent a remarkable amount of time saying "you're not going to be a pro, you should be preparing for your future" and trying to help players do that. How stupid of them, right?

 

[S.C. OrangeMan]

For the can’t miss prospects, why not lock in a player for more than one year?

How is that going to happen, given the court rulings?

 

[Orangepantsforever]

Cue the people who come in guns blazing with "it was never about education, that's stupid."

Even though the vast vast majority of players, including most of the players at the big premier Division I programs, never even sniff an NFL practice roster. And the NCAA spent a remarkable amount of time saying "you're not going to be a pro, you should be preparing for your future" and trying to help players do that. How stupid of them, right?

Oh yeah. People get their hackles raised on this subject. People can believe what they want, but I (like a lot of people) know people that have played D1 football. They got their education, prepared for life, and set sail when they graduated…realizing that the VAST majority don’t go pro. Even if they do go pro, the bulk of life is still ahead after a pro career is over. Pragmatism is a lost art, however.

 

[hog88]

How can you lock them in? Only way they can do that is declare them employees and sign them to a contract and that hasn’t happened yet. In my view, that’s the only solution to the transfer portal.

No, the NCAA could allow collectives to offer pay for play binding contracts. Currently that is against NCAA rules.