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#76
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beachvol23 said:
With the current track record of coaching management by Danny White, I hope he’s gone before Barnes retires. HE ran off TV, botched baseball hire until intervention, Caldwell is bad and Heupel was 5th? Choice and was at same school before….
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What was the botched baseball hire until intervention about?
 
#77
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beachvol23 said:
With the current track record of coaching management by Danny White, I hope he’s gone before Barnes retires. HE ran off TV, botched baseball hire until intervention, Caldwell is bad and Heupel was 5th? Choice and was at same school before….
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He didn't run off TV, but keep listening to that dumb ass Basilio
 
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Jerry Green wasn’t a very good coach, but it’s hard to believe that he was run off after 4x 20s and 4x NCAAT bids and Buzz was hired. Because he was Michael Jordan’s room mate 20 years earlier?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Jerry Green wasn’t a very good coach, but it’s hard to believe that he was run off after 4x 20s and 4x NCAAT bids and Buzz was hired. Because he was Michael Jordan’s room mate 20 years earlier?
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Uncle Jerry left for the same reason Bruce left: he alienated himself from the people who make decisions. Granted, they did it in very different ways, but regardless, you aren't going to hold a position like that when your bosses and financiers either despise you or cannot trust you or both.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Jerry Green wasn’t a very good coach, but it’s hard to believe that he was run off after 4x 20s and 4x NCAAT bids and Buzz was hired. Because he was Michael Jordan’s room mate 20 years earlier?
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Especially after the run of late DeVoe, Houston, and O'Neill. That run of mediocrity (1 NCAAT appearance and 1st rd exit in 1989) over 14 years killed the program. Jerry Green, for all his faults, had immediate and sustained success.

Can you imagine South Carolina firing Lamont Paris, or Missouri firing Dennis Gates if they had that kind of success?
 
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cncchris33 said:
Especially after the run of late DeVoe, Houston, and O'Neill. That run of mediocrity (1 NCAAT appearance and 1st rd exit in 1989) over 14 years killed the program. Jerry Green, for all his faults, had immediate and sustained success.

Can you imagine South Carolina firing Lamont Paris, or Missouri firing Dennis Gates if they had that kind of success?
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One of the problems with Jerry Green was that most of his success was with Kevin O'Neill's recruits. Once those left the program, it was clear Jerry Green was done.
 
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vol9799 said:
Uncle Jerry left for the same reason Bruce left: he alienated himself from the people who make decisions. Granted, they did it in very different ways, but regardless, you aren't going to hold a position like that when your bosses and financiers either despise you or cannot trust you or both.
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I wouldn’t have disagreed that he could have been allowed to stick around while he was still making every NCAAT. It doesn’t seem like there was a successor plan at all in place when running him off. Buzz Freaking Peterson?

Then when Buzz was run off I thought that keeping him a little longer and hiring DeVoe as his Xs and Os assistant would have been worth a try. As poor as Buzz was as a bench coach, he was a really good recruiter.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I wouldn’t have disagreed that he could have been allowed to stick around while he was still making every NCAAT. It doesn’t seem like there was a successor plan at all in place when running him off. Buzz Freaking Peterson?

Then when Buzz was run off I thought that keeping him a little longer and hiring DeVoe as his Xs and Os assistant would have been worth a try. As poor as Buzz was as a bench coach, he was a really good recruiter.
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I wouldn't call Buzz a really good recruiter. He landed CJ Watson and Chris Lofton. Watson was a great get, but we know the Lofton story. I will agree that he left enough for Bruce to succeed right away. Buzz also got Major Wingate, but he was eventually dismissed after Pearl.

I was in school when Green was fired and Buzz was hired. It was a bad hire after Buzz simply took Tulas to the NIT Championship. Green wasn't necessarily fired for performance, however, his last team fell apart, and the train was off the tracks. Got to a #4 ranking and lost 8 of the last 13 regulr season games. As another poster stated, his administration couldn't trust him anymore with public comments. I hated to see it unfold.
 
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miket4god said:
One of the problems with Jerry Green was that most of his success was with Kevin O'Neill's recruits. Once those left the program, it was clear Jerry Green was done.
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Disagree.

Year 3 was the big win season and Green only had 3 players inherited from O'Neill: Charles Hathaway, Vegas Davis & CJ Black

Vincent Yarbrough, Tony Harris, Jon Higgins, Isiah Victor, Ron Slay, Del Baker, Marcus Haislip were all Green recruits. He didn't inherit a bad roster though. Not saying that, but 2 of his 4 seasons as the HC he fielded a team full of his guys only.

What's sad is that Buzz inherited a roster with 2 NBA draft picks (Haislip & Yarbrough) as well as Higgins & Slay and went 15-16 despite bringing in 2 top 100 HS talents (Crump & Stribling).
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Disagree.

Year 3 was the big win season and Green only had 3 players inherited from O'Neill: Charles Hathaway, Vegas Davis & CJ Black

Vincent Yarbrough, Tony Harris, Jon Higgins, Isiah Victor, Ron Slay, Del Baker, Marcus Haislip were all Green recruits. He didn't inherit a bad roster though. Not saying that, but 2 of his 4 seasons as the HC he fielded a team full of his guys only.

What's sad is that Buzz inherited a roster with 2 NBA draft picks (Haislip & Yarbrough) as well as Higgins & Slay and went 15-16 despite bringing in 2 top 100 HS talents (Crump & Stribling).
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Don't remember when Ron Slay signed, but Tony Harris was a KO recruit (Green may have had to get him to resign, I don't remember the timeline). KO certainly did the heavy lifting there.
Vincent Yarbrough was a Green recruit, partly because KO signed his brother the year before.
Isaiah Victor was absolutely not a Green recruit. He was a KO recruit and was part of the reason KO left. KO thought Victor didn't get the same academic push/help/support that some football players got and was mad when Victor had to redshirt his freshman season to get his academics in order.
 
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miket4god said:
One of the problems with Jerry Green was that most of his success was with Kevin O'Neill's recruits. Once those left the program, it was clear Jerry Green was done.
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Hmmm...can't say I agree. He recruited Yarbrough, Slay, Higgins, Haislip, T. Woods, Harris Walker. All were on his last team that started the season 16-1.

Talent wasn't really the issue. Fan engagement, general attitude towards administration and media, player discipline, and coaching adjustments were more of his downfall.
 
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miket4god said:
Don't remember when Ron Slay signed, but Tony Harris was a KO recruit (Green may have had to get him to resign, I don't remember the timeline). KO certainly did the heavy lifting there.
Vincent Yarbrough was a Green recruit, partly because KO signed his brother the year before.
Isaiah Victor was absolutely not a Green recruit. He was a KO recruit and was part of the reason KO left. KO thought Victor didn't get the same academic push/help/support that some football players got and was mad when Victor had to redshirt his freshman season to get his academics in order.
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This is all accurate.

Slay was a Green recruit. Out of Pearl-Cohn and then Oak Hill Academy in 1999, he was the crown jewel of Green's first unassisted recruiting class.

Tony Harris signed with O'Neill but Green convinced him to stick.

Isiah Victor was an O'Neill recruit who was a partial qualifier and ineligible his freshman year.

O'Neill signed Yarbrough's brother, Del Baker, from Cleveland, TN, which assisted in landing VY, but Green got him to Knoxville
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Disagree.

Year 3 was the big win season and Green only had 3 players inherited from O'Neill: Charles Hathaway, Vegas Davis & CJ Black

Vincent Yarbrough, Tony Harris, Jon Higgins, Isiah Victor, Ron Slay, Del Baker, Marcus Haislip were all Green recruits. He didn't inherit a bad roster though. Not saying that, but 2 of his 4 seasons as the HC he fielded a team full of his guys only.

What's sad is that Buzz inherited a roster with 2 NBA draft picks (Haislip & Yarbrough) as well as Higgins & Slay and went 15-16 despite bringing in 2 top 100 HS talents (Crump & Stribling).
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Del Baker signed with KO in Nov 1996 and his first season was 1997-98. Yarbrough is Del’s brother so it’s safe to say that KO recruited VY to TN.
I think that KO also recruited Tony Harris to TN although the 4 years that he played were Green’s 4 years as the ball coach.
 
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EasternVol said:
Well we did end up with Buzz Peterson that one time...
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Yep. He was thought to be a rising star in the profession, though. I remember Pat Summitt talking about how impressed she was with his coaching at Tulsa. Also, have you heard he was Michael Jordan's roommate in college?

What a disappointment he turned out to be. Still, no one was worse than Wade Houston.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Del Baker signed with KO in Nov 1996 and his first season was 1997-98. Yarbrough is Del’s brother so it’s safe to say that KO recruited VY to TN.
I think that KO also recruited Tiny Harris to TN although the 4 years that he played were Green’s 4 years as the ball coach.
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Harris Walker and Terrence Woods would have been fantastic players if they'd kept their heads straight. Green had the inmates running the asylum.
 
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MoCo_Vol said:
Disagree.

Year 3 was the big win season and Green only had 3 players inherited from O'Neill: Charles Hathaway, Vegas Davis & CJ Black

Vincent Yarbrough, Tony Harris, Jon Higgins, Isiah Victor, Ron Slay, Del Baker, Marcus Haislip were all Green recruits. He didn't inherit a bad roster though. Not saying that, but 2 of his 4 seasons as the HC he fielded a team full of his guys only.

What's sad is that Buzz inherited a roster with 2 NBA draft picks (Haislip & Yarbrough) as well as Higgins & Slay and went 15-16 despite bringing in 2 top 100 HS talents (Crump & Stribling).
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I am still bitter about the team's lack of success during the Green years. Regardless of who recruited them, I have always thought those were some of the most talented, deepest teams Tennessee ever had. Maybe time has made them seem better than they were, but still, a lot of talent. And fun to watch.
 
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LeannaVol said:
I am still bitter about the team's lack of success during the Green years. Regardless of who recruited them, I have always thought those were some of the most talented, deepest teams Tennessee ever had. Maybe time has made them seem better than they were, but still, a lot of talent. And fun to watch.
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For me that era was the start of my interest, 20 wins seemed like a huge accomplishment so I was never bitter…


Didn’t know Del & Victor were here the year before Green. But Sports-Reference doesn’t show RS seasons & neither were listed on KO’s last roster.
 
#98
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MoCo_Vol said:
For me that era was the start of my interest, 20 wins seemed like a huge accomplishment so I was never bitter…


Didn’t know Del & Victor were here the year before Green. But Sports-Reference doesn’t show RS seasons & neither were listed on KO’s last roster.
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Victor’s redshirt might be the biggest reason why KO left in such a huff. The KO and Dickey relationship was irreparably damaged when DAD blocked IV from playing as a true freshman.
 
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#100
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HeuperDrive said:
I don’t think so anymore, Syracuse has lost a lot of prestige since Boeheim retired. It’s not the 2010s. I absolutely think we could pry a coach from them with the right price.

Barnes has made UT a much more attractive spot than it was before. The idea nobody would want this job is an outdated narrative.
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I think one could argue that UT is a BETTER job than Syracuse. So, what would we rank UT as far a national job? Just off the top of my head I'd say we're a top 15-20 job.
 
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