Coach Pruitt and Future

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Spook1 said:
I think Pruitt will have us in a competitive situation in 5 years, but ii make take 7 years to get us in to a dominate situation. We will get there.
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I don't think it wll take that long. Within 2 years I believe we will be beasts of the East again. What shocks me is the overreaction to one game good or bad. We win and the group think is we are going to Atlanta. We lose it is fire the coach beacuse the team is a complete dumpster fire. Even my wife who is a completely irrational fan is more level headed than the collective wisdom on here.
 
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rikberry31 said:
I don't think it wll take that long. Within 2 years I believe we will be beasts of the East again. What shocks me is the overreaction to one game good or bad. We win and the group think is we are going to Atlanta. We lose it is fire the coach beacuse the team is a complete dumpster fire. Even my wife who is a completely irrational fan is more level headed than the collective wisdom on here.
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Any coach that needs seven years to "get there" should be fired on the spot. That's two complete recruiting classes!! He$$, might as well give him ten!!
 
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'Boro-vol said:
Am I to understand this is now a 7 year rebuild? That's a large number, even for the most devoted Sunshine Pumper.

Interesting. I guess I need to reassess my expectations.
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I think we're in year 12 already. I guess it depends on what you're rebuilding to.
 
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tpsdave said:
Any coach that needs seven years to "get there" should be fired on the spot. That's two complete recruiting classes!! He$$, might as well give him ten!!
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How can a coach be fired on the spot if he has been there 7 years? 2 recuiting class is freshman and sophomores, not many teams win with all freshman and sophomores.
 
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Fans also need to remember that Fulmer hired Pruitt and he will give him every chance to succeed because his legacy as athletic director is linked to Pruitt.
 
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JoAllan said:
KY last 5 years: 2-2, 8-5, 10-3, 7-6, 7-6
SC: 2-2, 4-8, 7-6, 9-4, 6-7
TN: 2-2, 8-5, 5-7, 4-8, 9-4

Tennessee is NOT on Kentucky level right now......and they haven’t been for a while. Heck Kentucky has a 10 win season a few years ago......it’s been like 14 seasons since Tennessee has smelled 10 wins.

I certainly know where Tennessee is....and where they have been for quite some time. The problem (to me) “IS” acceptance. Everyone, from the fans, the coaches, the administration......seem to accept this. As such, it probably never will change.....unless someone high enough or enough people are done accepting this product.
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Kentucky doesn't challenge itself in non-conference, nor does it have Alabama as a permanent West opponent. That's a +2 wins per year for them vs us built into the schedule.
 
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Spook1 said:
Butch Jones left the Vols football program in horrible shape. He had no linemen essentially above 300 pounds and absolutely no speed. Jones refused to keep Sam Pittman, the best offensive line coach in the nation too. Pruitt addressed that quickly and is still in pursuit of improvement. When a football program was in as bad a shape as what Jones left, you do not restore it in a couple of years either. Essentially, it will take 5 to 7 years to get the Vols competitive again. Be patient, support Coach Pruitt and give him the time to do so. Look at Kentucky as an example, Stoops came to Kentucky in 2013 in a horrible program. Year by year he has improved the program...this is 7 years into the process. Give him three more years and he is going to be very competitive in the SEC. The same will happen to Pruitt if we stay behind him and give him our support. Pruitt did not throw two intersections and a fumble that resulted in 17 Kentucky quick points....blame that on QB JG. Some are demanding a coaching change...this would only worsen the situation. Stay the course, support Pruitt and we will get back competitive again...that comes when we can end up beating or being competitive with Florida, Georgia and Alabama.
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Tell that to James Franklin at Vanderbilt, Bobby Petrino at Arkansas, Hugh Freeze at Ole Miss, Dan Mullin at Mississippi State, or Nick Saban at Alabama.
 
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It will be amazing to see people's reactions (and backtracks) if ... IF (did i mention if) Bailey is the real deal, and this whole thing turns around.
On the other hand, I agree, it sure looks mighty bad (and eerily familiar) right now.
 
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rocketskates said:
Go get Stoops. He’s making chicken salad with chicken shhhh at Kentucky.
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You are not wrong, but I simply cannot stand that guy. I can't imagine feeling any different if he were our coach.

Though it would really hack off my extended Kentucky-fan and alum family if we poached their only living, semi-successful coach.
 
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preacherwebb said:
It will be amazing to see people's reactions (and backtracks) if ... IF (did i mention if) Bailey is the real deal, and this whole thing turns around.
On the other hand, I agree, it sure looks mighty bad (and eerily familiar) right now.
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For sure...but then again some of Pruitt's biggest detractors might be justified if that ends up being the case and HB was held back out of stubborness.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Dabo also has 2 National Championships and 6 ACC Championships under his belt.

Pruitt is getting embarrassed by Kentucky on his home field his third year on the job.

Not a good comparison.
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If you’re looking at just his record for year 3, I think they went 6-7, but they had close losses of like 3 points to FSU and Auburn (on the road which Auburn go their NC that year), but it was seen as a bad year. Pruitt has been an expert at getting blown out in the big games. So definitely not a good comparison, but they did lose their bowl game to South Florida.

From a bleacher report 2016 article:

Swinney should have been gone in 2010, after a 6-7 season that ended with a loss to South Florida in a no-name bowl game. Former Clemson athletic director Terry Don Phillips, who hired Swinney in 2008, said he almost was.

"I was lucky to have a great president [Jim Barker]," Phillips said. "He was under pressure—from the trustees all the way up—to fire Dabo in 2010. There would have been a lot of presidents to acquiesce to public sentiment."

I wonder how many Clemson fans, if they are being honest, are looking back and trying to forget what they felt about Swinney at the time.

The truth is, he was a bad hire in the first place. Sure, it doesn't look that way now, but in 2008? He had never been a head coach. He had never been a coordinator. He was Tommy Bowden's guy, and Bowden had been fired midseason. To give Swinney that big-time job after just a few games as an interim coach was absurd.
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Now I’m not saying Pruitt is going to be Dabo by any means but just think if they had fired Dabo. Regardless, Pruitt’s stubbornness will be his downfall unless he changes, but I think he does have the ability to be a good HC.
 
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sechamp2012 said:
3 years is quickly if you ask me
Took Dabo 3 years, he took over in 2008 and won double digit games from 2011 till present
The key was he got a dynamic QB in Tajh Boyd in 2010 Tajh started in 2011
Tajh's year winning beget winning QB is the main ingredient
Dabo had not won, he won 4 first year then 9 and then 6 then when Tajh took over in 2011 won 10+ ever since and 14 some years 15 one year.
Won double digit games 10 out of 13 years.
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Dabo rarely got beat by double digits other than to SC and that debacle bowl game against WVU in the early going too. Pruitt hasn't been within 20 of any of our main rivals yet.

Pruitt wishes he was as good as Swinney.

Wonder if Kiffin still thinks Boyd was too short to play QB?
 
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tpsdave said:
Any coach that needs seven years to "get there" should be fired on the spot. That's two complete recruiting classes!! He$$, might as well give him ten!!
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I really do think that is how you get where you are today. If you look at Tennessee's rebuild after Bill Battle, he was fired in 1976, and Tennessee won a national championship in 1998. That's 22 years. It would be hard to argue that the team didn't get better for a long time. It was a little irregular under Johnny Majors, with a few bumps, but I really think the general trend was up for a long time.
 
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USMC-TNVOL said:
If you’re looking at just his record for year 3, I think they went 6-7, but they had close losses of like 3 points to FSU and Auburn (on the road which Auburn go their NC that year), but it was seen as a bad year. Pruitt has been an expert at getting blown out in the big games. So definitely not a good comparison, but they did lose their bowl game to South Florida.

From a bleacher report 2016 article:



Now I’m not saying Pruitt is going to be Dabo by any means but just think if they had fired Dabo. Regardless, Pruitt’s stubbornness will be his downfall unless he changes, but I think he does have the ability to be a good HC.
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In Dabo's actual 3rd season they won 10 games, beat #5 Va Tech in the ACC Title game and went to the Orange Bowl. He was interim hc for a partial season to begin with.
 
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