Climer

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Let's look at a few:
Total defense: 11th in the SEC, 71st nationally, at 402.9 yards per game.
Scoring defense: 11th in the SEC, 70th nationally, at 28.7 points a game.
Pass-efficiency defense: 11th in the SEC, 67th nationally.
Rushing defense: 8th in the SEC, 64th nationally, at 158.4 yards a game.
Sacks: 10th in the SEC, 79th nationally, at 20.
Third-down conversion percentage: 10th in the SEC, 67th nationally, at 39.3 percent.

"We've had some of the best defenses in this league through the years," defensive coordinator John Chavis said. "We know what good a good defense looks like."

this is what scares me, the delusional denial that all is ok.
 
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coach speak. Do you expect chavis to talk about how bad the defense is the week of the sec championship?
 
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win the SEC title and none of this matter one bit. No wonder it was written before the game.
 
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This statement is very simple to explain.

"For example, when Kentucky was inside the 10-yard line last Saturday, why were the Vols cornerbacks lined up in the end zone?"

It was blown assignment. It happens to all teams. Not good and if you remember it only happened on one series and that is why they started running more in OT.

Are there issues to look at? Yes but Climer and all the others who want to bash this team and coach have had all off season and most of this season to fire at will. They should at least show a little class and let the team get through this game before running off at the mouth again.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
This statement is very simple to explain.

"For example, when Kentucky was inside the 10-yard line last Saturday, why were the Vols cornerbacks lined up in the end zone?"

It was blown assignment. It happens to all teams. Not good and if you remember it only happened on one series and that is why they started running more in OT.
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I have to completely disagree with this. There were a number of series where the CB was lined up 8-10 yards deep. This seemed to be the case with willingham everytime he lined up....which was probably a good thing seeing that he got burned for a TD even when he was 10 yards off.
 
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The week of the SECCG and this is what Climer comes with? What in the world is he going to write about if we win? There are obvious issues with this team, but he has almost turned himself into a cartoon character with his predictable railing.
 
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JZVOL said:
True, but in long run it would matter.
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Not really. We can be ranked last in the conf in every def category as long as we are playing for a conf title. These are nothing but stats.

And the Vols won their last five games despite their defense, not because of it.
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I take it he didn't watch the Ark game and thinks 7 pts to LL is too many.
 
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blah blah blah make changes blah blah blah '05 blah blah blah it's not '98 blah blah blah no talent blah blah blah Florida and Bama blah.

Who's playin Saturday for a conference championship and a trip to a BCS bowl and who's sitting and home with their more talented teams, superior coaching, and advanced schemes?
 
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utvolpj said:
Not really. We can be ranked last in the conf in every def category as long as we are playing for a conf title. These are nothing but stats.



I take it he didn't watch the Ark game and thinks 7 pts to LL is too many.
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I totally disagree because if that was what out D turned into we will not be playing for any title on a regular basis. That being said I'm think/hoping things get better next year.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Are there issues to look at? Yes but Climer and all the others who want to bash this team and coach have had all off season and most of this season to fire at will. They should at least show a little class and let the team get through this game before running off at the mouth again.
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I admit to being pretty negative about our coaching staff over the last few years, but I agree that the timing of this article sucks.

Go Vols. Beat the Tigers.
 
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rexvol said:
Let's look at a few:
Total defense: 11th in the SEC, 71st nationally, at 402.9 yards per game.
Scoring defense: 11th in the SEC, 70th nationally, at 28.7 points a game.
Pass-efficiency defense: 11th in the SEC, 67th nationally.
Rushing defense: 8th in the SEC, 64th nationally, at 158.4 yards a game.
Sacks: 10th in the SEC, 79th nationally, at 20.
Third-down conversion percentage: 10th in the SEC, 67th nationally, at 39.3 percent.

"We've had some of the best defenses in this league through the years," defensive coordinator John Chavis said. "We know what good a good defense looks like."

this is what scares me, the delusional denial that all is ok.
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No, delusional is worrying about the above stats when we're packing for Atlanta this week. Are you headed down? I'll buy you a beer to calm you down man.
 
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TennesseeT said:
blah blah blah make changes blah blah blah '05 blah blah blah it's not '98 blah blah blah no talent blah blah blah Florida and Bama blah.

Who's playin Saturday for a conference championship and a trip to a BCS bowl and who's sitting and home with their more talented teams, superior coaching, and advanced schemes?
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at least two of the teams that beat the absolute living hell out of us will be watching Sat. The third probably doesn't care, but will get much enjoyment out of knowing that the team they slaughtered is playing for the championship of the "best" conference in the nation.
 
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crazyguy said:
I have to completely disagree with this. There were a number of series where the CB was lined up 8-10 yards deep. This seemed to be the case with willingham everytime he lined up....which was probably a good thing seeing that he got burned for a TD even when he was 10 yards off.
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Willingham did when they were inside the 10 on the first OT series. After that they were up on the WR. Why do you think UK was running the ball. The adjustment was made. Woodson threw a couple of really good passes and some great catches were made in the latter OT's. And in the final OT they had NO ONE to throw to on the 2 point attempt.

Now was the defense great in the second half? No they were confused once KY went to a spread hurry up. But this is no time to write this crap. There has been plenty of time and there will be plenty of time.
 
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GAVol said:
The week of the SECCG and this is what Climer comes with? What in the world is he going to write about if we win? There are obvious issues with this team, but he has almost turned himself into a cartoon character with his predictable railing.
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Agreed. And I find the title of his article completely wrong. A title drive DOES mask the woes. People get silly into stats when they are losing. If UT wins Saturday, no one will give a damn where we rank in pass defense or 3rd down defense.
 
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The funny thing is that the pass coverage was awful on Saturday, but had everything covered on the 2 most important plays of the day: the last pass attempt of regulation and the last play of the game.
 
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JZVOL said:
I totally disagree because if that was what out D turned into we will not be playing for any title on a regular basis. That being said I'm think/hoping things get better next year.
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If these numbers are so bad then how are we going to Atl instead of 10 other teams?
 
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Playing for and actually winning are two different things. Take away this conference title and divisions and where do we sit overall in a unified conference? Right now as it stands we'd probably be going to the Chic-Fil-A Bowl.
 
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GAVol said:
The funny thing is that the pass coverage was awful on Saturday, but had everything covered on the 2 most important plays of the day: the last pass attempt of regulation and the last play of the game.
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but on the dropped snap play, dude could not have been more wide open and that would have ended the football game had the pass been remotely decent.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Willingham did when they were inside the 10 on the first OT series. After that they were up on the WR. Why do you think UK was running the ball. The adjustment was made. Woodson threw a couple of really good passes and some great catches were made in the latter OT's. And in the final OT they had NO ONE to throw to on the 2 point attempt.

Now was the defense great in the second half? No they were confused once KY went to a spread hurry up. But this is no time to write this crap. There has been plenty of time and there will be plenty of time.
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i'm not supporting climer, just pointing out that the pass defense was a little sketchy.
 
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utvolpj said:
If these numbers are so bad then how are we going to Atl instead of 10 other teams?
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because they suck too. All defenses across the SEC have been pathetic this season and only a couple of the teams have the O to deal with that.

Plus, we had the best SEC record of all the squads in the Eastern Division.
 
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utvolpj said:
If these numbers are so bad then how are we going to Atl instead of 10 other teams?
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I'm not talking about about this year. Feel free to show me some teams that have defenses like that in this league that consistently go to or win the SECCG.

A field goal off the upright against Vandy, a missed field goal by USCe in OT and a lot of help from other teams.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Playing for and actually winning are two different things. Take away this conference title and divisions and where do we sit overall in a unified conference? Right now as it stands we'd probably be going to the Chic-Fil-A Bowl.
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We'd actually be the co-champions of the conference right now. :hi:

Under the old system we would have won the SEC in 2001 and this year as well.
 
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Those stats don't lie. We had our worst DL in years for the first half of the season. We are now starting DBs #6-9 due to injuries. The LBs, much maligned during the first half of the season had to make up for weaknesses in the line and backfield. Our DL has greatly improved and it appears the staff now trusts 3 of the 4 DBs. Our DL has improved and now the LB play is much better. I would expect the stats be exactly as they are. Our kids are improving and the youth gives me a lot of hope for the future.


rexvol said:
Let's look at a few:
Total defense: 11th in the SEC, 71st nationally, at 402.9 yards per game.
Scoring defense: 11th in the SEC, 70th nationally, at 28.7 points a game.
Pass-efficiency defense: 11th in the SEC, 67th nationally.
Rushing defense: 8th in the SEC, 64th nationally, at 158.4 yards a game.
Sacks: 10th in the SEC, 79th nationally, at 20.
Third-down conversion percentage: 10th in the SEC, 67th nationally, at 39.3 percent.

"We've had some of the best defenses in this league through the years," defensive coordinator John Chavis said. "We know what good a good defense looks like."

this is what scares me, the delusional denial that all is ok.
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