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#251
#251
herkyvol said:
Too tired to read through the thread, but I'll say this: Our execution sucked. I was fine with the play calling. The players need to make he plays.
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Turnovers and penalties point to Coaching. DO NOT blame these kids.
 
#252
#252
Foster had 7.4 per carry and Hardesty had 5.5. RUN THE DAMN FOOTBALL!! We should (and could) have smashed 'em in the mouth. UN-FREAKIN believable.
 
#253
#253
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Who's boasting?? For a team that wasn't tabbed to go anywhere in the East last season by the so-called experts we did well and played a damn good game on defense in the SECCG last year. Ainge cost us that game just like Cromp did tonight.
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An almost win still = loss.

Have we fallen so far that people are content to play close?

You blame Ainge. I blame the staff. Zenon said post game that he knew to jump the route because we don't throw deep. That int for a td was set up by a whole season of predictable playcalling.

Perhaps you forget that Ainge is probably the majority reason we made the SEC Championship in the first place. 3500+ tds and 31 tds I think with only 10 ints.
 
#255
#255
TheDeeble said:
An almost win still = loss.

Have we fallen so far that people are content to play close?

You blame Ainge. I blame the staff. Zenon said post game that he knew to jump the route because we don't throw deep. That int for a td was set up by a whole season of predictable playcalling.

Perhaps you forget that Ainge is probably the majority reason we made the SEC Championship in the first place. 3500+ tds and 31 tds I think with only 10 ints.
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Ainge was a great player for us and I will remember him as that. Unfortunately that day he wasn't the 3500 31/10 he was in the regular season.
 
#256
#256
VolDad said:
Turnovers and penalties point to Coaching. DO NOT blame these kids.
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Youre right about it pointing to coaching, but wrong in this instance.

UT had 2 turnovers...but it wasnt the coaches out there fumbling inside the 20 or throwing to a WR blanketed by thier best DB.

Just like it wasnt the coaches out there false starting back to back. Coaches do everything they can to prepare these young men, but they cant hold thier hands and wipe thier noses 100% of the time. They prepare them for gameday, but ultimately its the players that make (or dont make in this case) the plays during the game.
 
#257
#257
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ainge was a great player for us and I will remember him as that. Unfortunately that day he wasn't the 3500 31/10 he was in the regular season.
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So, perhaps do you think because he was having a bad day that maybe we should have adjusted the gameplan to involve some of his supporting cast a bit more?
 
#261
#261
kptvol said:
So, perhaps do you think because he was having a bad day that maybe we should have adjusted the gameplan to involve some of his supporting cast a bit more?
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Ainge had an OK day, but it wasn't anything like the debacle Cromp just displayed on the field tonight. Cromp just didn't have his game speed. Practice and scrimmages CAN NOT ulitmately be the preparation to becoming a better QB over the course of a career. Experience is the only thing that can prepare you over the course of a career. Ask Peyton Manning.
 
#262
#262
ShanMan said:
post # 258.

And congrats on 13,000 posts btw.
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So, the coaches called an idiotic formation that frequently results in blocked punts and it's the players' fault that Cunningham couldn't get the kick off in 0.3 seconds?
 
#263
#263
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Ainge had an OK day, but it wasn't anything like the debacle Cromp just displayed on the field tonight. Cromp just didn't have his game speed. Practice and scrimmages CAN NOT ulitmately be the preparation to becoming a better QB over the course of a career. Experience is the only thing that can prepare you over the course of a career. Ask Peyton Manning.
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I'm sure coaches and Archie Manning had nothing to do with Peyton's improvement. Did Mark Sanchez really have much more experience than Crompton? Why, like all USC QBs of late, did he come in and dominate?
 
#264
#264
kptvol said:
I'm sure coaches and Archie Manning had nothing to do with Peyton's improvement. Did Mark Sanchez really have much more experience than Crompton? Why, like all USC QBs of late, did he come in and dominate?
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Maybe because he was the #1 QB in the same class as Crompton and many believed it was possible Cromp was overrated that year. I remember hearing that Cromp would challenge for the starting job when he got here. I never really figured out why that battled never materialized until tonight.
 
#265
#265
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Maybe because he was the #1 QB in the same class as Crompton and many believed it was possible Cromp was overrated that year. I remember hearing that Cromp would challenge for the starting job when he got here. I never really figured out why that battled never materialized until tonight.
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Matt Leinart wasn't that highly regarded and had very little experience when named the starter. He was a stud right away. It happens. Good coaches are a big part of it.
 
#266
#266
kptvol said:
Matt Leinart wasn't that highly regarded and had very little experience when named the starter. He was a stud right away. It happens. Good coaches are a big part of it.
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Also players are over and underrated with the Rivals system. I'd say hype can be a good and bad thing.
 
#267
#267
I will tell you this now, I had some issues with cut, but i'm really going to miss the way he was able to manhandle UGA's defenses if our offense keeps up like this
 
#268
#268
this is sad of play calling and head coach,we have the 2 top running backs in college,and we run with them on 1st down,and get 6 to 7 yards on carry,then every time on 2nd and 3 or 4,we pass,instead of pounding the rock,and playing defense,we have bad coaching,look what alabama did with ingram and coffee,lol,what are our coaching thinking,does fulmer and clawson,so stuck on peyton manning in hte nfl,that they forget about pounding the rock,cmon fire the coaches,better coaches out there



stats,crompton a rookie,starting in the rose bowl atmosphere,and threw 42 times



running backs,5th year senior,and hardesty,got the ball 25 times all game between both together,avg.7.1 a carry between them,but still threw the ball on 2nd and 3 2nd and 5 2nd 2nd and1,i mean we have a big back and fast bcak against the pac 10 defense,fire the coach or we will never get any were.
 
#270
#270
TheVol said:
No you are clueless. Our second team is more talented than UCLA. The coaching blew this game. We were not prepared and were out schemed all game.
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Your sarcasm detection must be blurred by the alcohol.
 
#271
#271
I saw on several instances that Crompton did NOT make his reads. All Clawson can do is call a play that will give his QB an available and open receiver, and Crompton must make the read and make the pass. Crompton was NOT settled, and what I hold Clawson accountable for was allowing a new QB in a new system in his first game as the newly ordained starter to make 42 passes.


There is NO excuse for that. Crompton was clearly not making the correct reads in the 1st Qtr and the Commentators saw it. We tried to adapt with the passing game by having deep routes to give us an open field when coupled with their blitz packages. Crompton STILL decided to throw deep again and again. Either bench him or regulate him to handing off to any of our 4 capable backs.
 
#272
#272
DC Vol said:
I saw on several instances that Crompton did NOT make his reads. All Clawson can do is call a play that will give his QB an available and open receiver, and Crompton must make the read and make the pass. Crompton was NOT settled, and what I hold Clawson accountable for was allowing a new QB in a new system in his first game as the newly ordained starter to make 42 passes.


There is NO excuse for that. Crompton was clearly not making the correct reads in the 1st Qtr and the Commentators saw it. We tried to adapt with the passing game by having deep routes to give us an open field when coupled with their blitz packages. Crompton STILL decided to throw deep again and again. Either bench him or regulate him to handing off to any of our 4 capable backs.
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he did look at his receivers too long, i think he'll improve. i also think it was good that clawson is trying to throw the ball downfield instead of 30 screen passes. they should have run more to the outside, especially when they were blitzing up the middle.
 
#273
#273
I agree, throwing the ball that many times when your QB isn't playing well or making good reads, is just asking to get beat. We had other weapons on offense. Clawson should have gotten in his ear and told him to dump the ball off to the RB, FB, or TE and stop throwing downfield if he can't make a play.
 
#274
#274
oklavol said:
I agree, throwing the ball that many times when your QB isn't playing well or making good reads, is just asking to get beat. We had other weapons on offense. Clawson should have gotten in his ear and told him to dump the ball off to the RB, FB, or TE and stop throwing downfield if he can't make a play.
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The worst thing about all of this is Clawson had been making comments on how Crompton was reluctant to settle down and make the smart throw... not the highlight reel throw.

It seemed, to me at least, that Crompton was not taking advantage of what I felt was a well called game by Clawson. I also don't know why Fulmer or someone wasn't trying to talk to Crompton like Neu was talking to Craft to get him to settle down.


Oh yeah, even with 4 INTs, statistically and otherwise Craft has a better game (95 vs. 78 rating). Terrible that Crompton got outplayed by a guy who threw 4 INTs.
 
#275
#275
DC Vol said:
The worst thing about all of this is Clawson had been making comments on how Crompton was reluctant to settle down and make the smart throw... not the highlight reel throw.

It seemed, to me at least, that Crompton was not taking advantage of what I felt was a well called game by Clawson. I also don't know why Fulmer or someone wasn't trying to talk to Crompton like Neu was talking to Craft to get him to settle down.


Oh yeah, even with 4 INTs, statistically and otherwise Craft has a better game (95 vs. 78 rating). Terrible that Crompton got outplayed by a guy who threw 4 INTs.
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Agree 100%. The difference was that Craft was at least throwing balls where they could be caught (even if it were by the wrong team :)) where as Crompton kept tossing them in the dirt or 6 feet over the receivers heads.
 
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