Clawson to UTC?

#201
#201
therickbol said:
So your support for Clawson has led you to call him a blatant liar? He has never dodged the question about whether he calls plays. He has never answered in a way that left his remark open-endeded. He has said unequivocally that he calls 100% of the plays on game day. He is just a liar huh?


And, by the way, we have no evidence that Superman doesnt exist so surely he does right? That logic is very flawed. We only have evidence that shows us one thing, that Clawson calls plays.
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Fulmer himself said that he was changing at least 30% of the plays. :hi:
 
#203
#203
vol_in_ar said:
should have changed more, and maybe he wouldn't be out of a J.O.B.
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See 5-6 in 05 to see how that worked out as well. Phil doesn't have a scapegoat this year since he burned that card with Randy Sanders. Our offense was not that much better, but we did have some better talent on the offensive side of the ball.
 
#204
#204
Phil's record as the offensive coordintor:

'89-11-1
'90-9-2-2
'91-9-3

Wish Clawson could have had as much success his first year
 
#208
#208
westknox said:
Check out the century you are referring to. The nineties are forever past, just like Fulmer is.
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the point wasn't that it was the nineties,
it's was to compare the records of Fulmer as on OC too Clawson pathetic efforts this year
 
#209
#209
vol_in_ar said:
the point wasn't that it was the nineties,
it's was to compare the records of Fulmer as on OC too Clawson pathetic efforts this year
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You should be comparing Fulmer to Fulmer....

Fulmer 90's vs. Fulmer since

Otherwise your comparison is pointless....
 
#210
#210
It really highlights that IF Fulmer was really controlling the offense
We would probably be better
 
#211
#211
vol_in_ar said:
It really highlights that IF Fulmer was really controlling the offense
We would probably be better
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No it doesn't. It proves that Fulmer hasn't improved and the talent pool isn't as deep for us since other teams are better than us and have won more recently than we have. Fulmer was controlling the offense ever since Cut left the first time and has been controlling at least 30% (That's conservative) of it this year with a piss poor QB situation that we didn't have to put up with last season with Ainge. You hate Clawson, we get it, but it's not that man's fault we are where we are right now. Our team could have been much better if we would have had QB play that would resemble something that was at least portionally SEC caliber play. If Crompton does what he was supposed to do then we win at least 7-8 games this season. QB is the MAIN reason (O-Line in a CLOSE second) why we have been miserable this season.
 
#213
#213
kptvol said:
Clawson is the QB coach.
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Crompton was under Cut for 2-3 years, what's your excuse for that?? Crompton had basically NO experience coming into his Junior (RS) year and Cut was the OC and QB coach with Ainge as the starter. Crompton started against Arkanasas in 06 and played dreadfully and Cut was his QB coach. Fulmer has been the head coach since Cromp got here and Cromp was Sander's golden boy before he got canned in 05. Once again, what is Clawson supposed to do with one year and 3 QB's with little to no experience?? Clawson came in here with basically NOTHING to work with.
 
#214
#214
g8terh8ter_eric said:
Crompton was under Cut for 2-3 years, what's your excuse for that?? Crompton had basically NO experience coming into his Junior (RS) year and Cut was the OC and QB coach with Ainge as the starter. Crompton started against Arkanasas in 06 and played dreadfully and Cut was his QB coach. Fulmer has been the head coach since Cromp got here and Cromp was Sander's golden boy before he got canned in 05. Once again, what is Clawson supposed to do with one year and 3 QB's with little to no experience?? Clawson came in here with basically NOTHING to work with.
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I'm no expert on coaching quarterbacks, but that situation isn't all that uncommon. Very rarely does a team have QB play this bad from the top 2 guys. As for Sanders, none of Crompton's failures can be pinned on him. Jon's throwing shoulder was injured for the entire 2005 season. Sanders had minimal influence. Anyway, your post stated that it's not Clawson's fault the offense sucks because there's no way an OC could do much with such poor QB play. The fact that Clawson is also the QB coach means he needs to accept plenty of responsibility for the offense's shortcomings.
 
#215
#215
kptvol said:
I'm no expert on coaching quarterbacks, but that situation isn't all that uncommon. Very rarely does a team have QB play this bad from the top 2 guys. As for Sanders, none of Crompton's failures can be pinned on him. Jon's throwing shoulder was injured for the entire 2005 season. Sanders had minimal influence. Anyway, your post stated that it's not Clawson's fault the offense sucks because there's no way an OC could do much with such poor QB play. The fact that Clawson is also the QB coach means he needs to accept plenty of responsibility for the offense's shortcomings.
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So Cut or Fulmer are void of any responsibility involving Cromp's progressions since he has been here at UT?? Sanders is also not completely innocent here. He hand picked him before 05 to come in and be the next Casey Clausen and MANY people thought that Cromp was overrated (seems to be rhetorical with some of our recruits) coming out of HS. Crompton was plenty athletic enough in HS to overplay some of his deficencies (sp??) like making wrong reads and not throwing with accuracy, but the SEC magnifies all those problems if they are not corrected and it's pretty obvious that Cromp is over his head like some of you claim that Clawson is.
 
#216
#216
g8terh8ter_eric said:
So Cut or Fulmer are void of any responsibility involving Cromp's progressions since he has been here at UT?? Sanders is also not completely innocent here. He hand picked him before 05 to come in and be the next Casey Clausen and MANY people thought that Cromp was overrated (seems to be rhetorical with some of our recruits) coming out of HS. Crompton was plenty athletic enough in HS to overplay of some of his deficencies (sp??) like making wrong reads and not throwing with accuracy, but the SEC magnifies all those problems if they are not corrected and it's pretty obvious that Cromp is over his head like some of you claim that Clawson is.
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Sanders doesn't really need to be criticized for bringing in a guy that Spurrier offered to design his entire offense around. I never said Fulmer and Cutcliffe are blameless. However, I do believe Cutcliffe was prepared to explore other options for the 2008 starting QB.

The guys putting the entire season on Clawson's shoulder are wrong. Ditto for those blaming Crompton. Anyone saying those two don't deserve their fair share of blame is also wrong.
 
#217
#217
kptvol said:
Sanders doesn't really need to be criticized for bringing in a guy that Spurrier offered to design his entire offense around. I never said Fulmer and Cutcliffe are blameless. However, I do believe Cutcliffe was prepared to explore other options for the 2008 starting QB.

The guys putting the entire season on Clawson's shoulder are wrong. Ditto for those blaming Crompton. Anyone saying those two don't deserve their fair share of blame is also wrong.
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The Smelley/Garcia project have worked out well haven't they?? I think that a lot of older coaches don't evaluate talent the same as they did when they were younger. It is proven that the older you get the more conservative you become.
 
#219
#219
g8terh8ter_eric said:
The Smelley/Garcia project have worked out well haven't they?? I think that a lot of older coaches don't evaluate talent the same as they did when they were younger. It is proven that the older you get the more conservative you become.
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That isn't proven. Even if it were, what does being conservative have to do with evaluating talent? If anything, experience would only make you better in that department.
 
#223
#223
kptvol said:
That isn't proven. Even if it were, what does being conservative have to do with evaluating talent? If anything, experience would only make you better in that department.
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I would say it would make you less likely to bring in the raw talent that needs a little coaching here and there to become really great players.
 
#224
#224
g8terh8ter_eric said:
I was referring to the statement about Spurrier designing his offense around Crompton. Yes, they did destroy us.
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I believe Southern Cal offered him. Norm Chow knows a few things about quarterbacks. You can blame Sanders for recruiting Jon Crompton, but there were plenty of coaches that felt he'd be a good college QB.
 
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