Chris Kyle: American hero or

[Carl Pickens]

October, 2001

Not easy to leave Afghanistan or Pakistan, even with $50M.

link?

 

[Carl Pickens]

Good to see that fat POS Michael Moore weighed in on the movie on twitter:

"My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren't heroes. And invaders r worse"
3:40 PM - 18 Jan 2015

What a fat tub of goo.....

 

[n_huffhines]

that's a very loose correlation.....John Wayne and propaganda films.....I see the logic behind it, but it still weak as hell.

I have no idea what you mean by this.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I have no idea what you mean by this.

Saying Wayne's movies were propaganda films....

 

[jp1]

I've done enough looking into him. And I've seen push his job into fame by being on countless talk shows, interviews and writing a book about himself. I've also seen how many of his stories are pure fabrication, much like Eastwood's account of his tours of duty.

So you've formed an opinion based on others accounts of what he did and didn't do, but are not willing to read his own account? Makes perfect sense.

 

[jp1]

Soldiers are not necessarily heroes. The US public needs to distance itself from that myth.

Not agreeing or disagreeing, but what is a hero and could you give an example or two?

 

[n_huffhines]

Saying Wayne's movies were propaganda films....

If his intent was to rally boys to join the military, then by definition it's propaganda. It's not a stretch at all. It is what it is.

propaganda
noun
1. information, ideas, or rumors deliberately spread widely to help or harm a person, group, movement, institution, nation, etc.

 

[theFallGuy]

Not agreeing or disagreeing, but what is a hero and could you give an example or two?

"a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities."

 

[Sandvol]

Yea like actual quotes directly from him. The stuff that's been used in this debate

What actual quotes? The thing with Ventura? He was in San Diego at the time of the alleged incident. Unfortunately, Kyle wasn't able to testify because he was dead. The Superdome? Show me the direct quote? The thing with shooting the two would be robbers? Not been proven it didn't happen.

 

[Sandvol]

Not sure if he's actually trying to be political, or just saw an opportunity for a great joke. Excellent reference, IMO:

"American Sniper kind of reminds me of the movie that's showing in the third act of Inglorious Basterds."

He's a Canadian-nuff said.

 

[Sandvol]

What a fat tub of goo.....

Michael Moore's definition of German Sniper: German soldier who shot his uncle.

 

[jp1]

"a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities."

By that definition.....I would say he had tremendous courage, he definitely had achievements (he won 2 silver medals), and I would assume the SEALs saw noble qualities.

Did he have things to take away from some of those requirements? Possibly, but I see no mention of that in the definition.

 

[therealUT]

link?

Google.com

 

[Carl Pickens]

If his intent was to rally boys to join the military, then by definition it's propaganda. It's not a stretch at all. It is what it is.

I know what propaganda is bro..... With that said.... I don't think I've ever seen a John Wayne war movie. I googled this topic and there's plenty of articles on Wayne's war movies and propaganda..... I checked out a couple, but they appear to be so slanted and written by liberal poons that I quickly lost interest.

 

[hog88]

I know what propaganda is bro..... With that said.... I don't think I've ever seen a John Wayne war movie. I googled this topic and there's plenty of articles on Wayne's war movies and propaganda..... I checked out a couple, but they appear to be so slanted and written by liberal poons that I quickly lost interest.

You've never seen a John Wayne war movie? Missing out my man.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Google.com

Figured as much from you...., go read some Dalai Lama, Confucius or George Carlin

Chump

 

[Carl Pickens]

You've never seen a John Wayne war movie? Missing out my man.

Nope just cowboy movies

 

[Grand Vol]

Nope just cowboy movies

Flying Tigers, Sands of Iwo Jima, The Longest Day (actually it's an ensemble cast) and The Green Berets.

You have your homework, now go forth and Netflix

 

[hog88]

Nope just cowboy movies

That's a whole weekend of viewing pleasure.

 

[therealUT]

Figured as much from you...., go read some Dalai Lama, Confucius or George Carlin

Chump

I figured you could search for the news articles on your own.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Nope just cowboy movies

:good!: "The Horse Soldiers" was on just the other day on TCM where he played a damn Union yankee officer.

 

[n_huffhines]

I kinda hate war movies, but I'll watch the Longest Day again and again. Green Berets is awesome, too. John Wayne was awesome.

 

[YorkVol]

I figured you could search for the news articles on your own.

You still hold out hope that folks will do more than read a headline or thread title and actually research a topic before they comment? Delusional.

:hi:

 

[govols/cc]

Soldiers are not necessarily heroes. The US public needs to distance itself from that myth.

Dang I agree

 

[dduncan4163]

Watched American Sniper this weekened and thought it was a really good film. It is my second favorite Clint Eastwood directed movie. Gran Torino is still my favorite.