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Rasputin_Vol said:
How would the election be if the US was running it? Would John Kerry need to have boots on the ground 90 days prior to get the ballot stuffing infrastucture established?
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Yes, we all are quite acquainted with your hatred for the US.

The US bad, everyone else good. We made one major foreign policy blunder, the result of Neocons (led by President Dick Cheney) and liberal humanists alike in Iraq, and you'll never let Big Bad Wolf Lamb-Devouring US ever live that down.

What I want to know, however, is why you seem to think Brazil is such hot stuff. Why is a country to will never amount to anything and has a leader with a domestic approval rating that threatens to go to negative such great stuff?

You just like thongs or something?
 
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LouderVol said:
glass houses much?

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As Americans, we approach everything with a moral narrative. This is one of the reasons why we produce smug observers like Pacer and Ras, who, here in the US are actually taken seriously, while, elsewhere, in places like Russia, China, or central Asian small-timers would probably just be shot.

We have the great fortune of space.

In Russia, in particular, despite its size, you don't.

I don't blame Russia for behaving the way it has in Ukraine, although I do wish it would finally admit its behavior officially and stop skulking around like a kid in a ****ty city park. Honestly, I would want the US to behave the same way, albeit openly. Keep the threatening influences at bay by making said threatening country on your borders basically neutral at least. Of course Ukraine doesn't threaten Russia existentially, but Russia has a lot at stake in Ukraine (warm water ports, food, and pipelines not the least of which).

I totally get Russia's reaction and, in many regards, I support it.

I still, however, cannot stomach the seizure of Crimea and what I will officially call the "Weasel War" (you heard it first hear - don't copyright it) sanctioned by Russia in eastern Ukraine. I understand interests, and I think the US needs to cooperate more with Russia on this, but I cannot stomach border change. Russia is currently the only country on Earth changing borders, and it's not just in Ukraine.

Our country needs to get serious about foreign policy again. W. (not necessarily his pappy, who was tutored correctly under Reagan, who was a master of foreign policy, despite the mujihadeen debacle, which was Russia's fault, and not ours, anyhow) led us down a very, very bad path. I don't necessarily blame him. In many ways, he was a victim of America's great fortunes, but he also cost us dearly. Well, President Dick, more exactly.

We need to get back to the days of Reagan foreign policy, who learned a great lesson from Teddy. You carry a big stick, and you swing that stick very mightily, but you don't use that stick in circumstances when it either no longer benefits you or you go limp.

In the Ukraine, we are not limp. We need some pressure. But we are very much restrained. And, to carry the Roosevelt sexual metaphor of foreign policy and natural interests further, we should, at no point, sport a full hard-on erection, no matter how much that girl tempts us. Don't do it. Don't even think you can get by with a condom on. Just maintain flirtation, but don't go all in. You can't compete with Russia's handsomeness and big, fatty, at least not here.

Russia, for the time being, seems satisfied with frozen conflict. Then let them be.

Keep it that way. Don't move any further. Certainly don't arm Ukraine. (What the ****!)

Move economic interests into western Ukraine. Make it a viable country, the west at least.

Grant liberal political rights to the east so that Russia doesn't feel immediately threatened.

Ukraine may never be a "country" ever again and, this is partially explainable due to its geography and history, but some Ukraine will survive in a solid form at the very least - it's too strong to disappear, especially with Western backing. And Europe and Russia will both live with it as long as neither encroaches too far upon the other's interest, which, to both parties' interests, has seem to be the case thus far (Russia's shadiness in the east aside).

Just leave it be. Support economic interests in the west, remain firm against conflict-expansion, and hope that the economic and moral liberalization of the area will eventually trickle through to the east and, most importantly, to western Russia.

In the meantime, just chill the **** out.
 
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Okay, I thought that was being posted in the Ukraine thread, but it will do here as well.

Apologies for any confusion.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
How would the election be if the US was running it? Would John Kerry need to have boots on the ground 90 days prior to get the ballot stuffing infrastucture established?
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Of all things, you use the occasion of a sham North Korean election to criticize America policy.

Good grief.
 
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LouderVol said:
they are going to be "cleaning" their skies again. Beijing spruces up Tiananmen Square for China's war parade | South China Morning Post

also making Tiananmen Square "explosion proof" whatever the frick that means.
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Don't want to prevent a distinguished veteran of the People's Liberation Army from getting to see any of the parade for all the smog.

I'll give them this much, whenever they want to do something over there, say, like make Beijing look like less of a hellhole, by god they get it done and quick. Here, we have blowhards, funded by god knows how many interest groups, debating for years before anything makes it through Congress, assuming it makes it through at all.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Will Japan be sending any dignitaries?
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the article references other nation's militaries being there, but couldn't find out who. If anyone has a claim to helping the Chinese out during WWII it is the US. British definitely did their part too. but in all likely hood it will be Russians in Beijing celebrating with the Chinese.
 
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It was kind of a joke. China is still stoking up nationalism against the Japanese. I think Russia/Germany have done a better job of turning the page than those two.
 
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Velo Vol said:
It was kind of a joke. China is still stoking up nationalism against the Japanese. I think Russia/Germany have done a better job of turning the page than those two.
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The Russki-Deustche (or however you spell Deustche) relationship is made much easier by the fact that Germans went ahead and owned up to what dicks they were during the war. That and the additional fact that Russians know they, Russians, were also kind of dicky too, although it's implicitly understood (they'll never actually admit it publicly), so they kind of understand German dickiness in a way.

Japan, for whatever reasons, just can't quite seem to get over that 800 pound gorilla. When it makes attempts, these typically just come across as half-hearted and mere formalities (not sincere apologies).
 
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volprof said:
The Russki-Deustche (or however you spell Deustche) relationship is made much easier by the fact that Germans went ahead and owned up to what dicks they were during the war.
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Was that admission part of the terms of surrender?
 
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