Chattanooga Shootings...

I don't why I keep getting deleted but I'm making solid points. The liberals of this thread have come in here and took attention away from the reality of the issue to tell us we need to be more accepting of Islam. That is exactly what they do. The guy posted it was in the name of Islam so the connection is there
 
I don't why I keep getting deleted but I'm making solid points. The liberals of this thread have come in here and took attention away from the reality of the issue to tell us we need to be more accepting of Islam. That is exactly what they do. The guy posted it was in the name of Islam so the connection is there

Brother, you have us mistaken.

We all hate Islam.
 
You misinterpret. And just cuss, for godssakes. Looks 12 year old ish when you don't.

Islam is to blame. Like most religious texts (and I won't mention another one in particular since it makes everyone so angry) it leaves interpretation up to the reader. It's not Protestant in that regard (because official bodies dictate what is right) but it's just as flawed as any religion. The dictates, however you read them, of some merchant living in 700 AD determines how you should live today in 2015, with technologies and political realities even the most insightful Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him and Merciful be his name, couldn't have imagined. I find this highly flawed, but, for whatever reasons (often lacking any reason), others find this sufficient.

I provided a day or two ago a geographical explanation (and if you're not aware, geography is the root of history, cultures, economies, and peoples, etc.) as to why Christianity ultimately was able to pursue a much more peaceful path than Islam. At the time I may have said it had nothing to do with ideology (I can't remember), but, if so, I was wrong. It does have a lot to do with ideology (and geography). The emphasis on the individual in Christianity, in particular Protestantism (which is probably fueled by Western Europe's relative geographical security, in particular Great Britain, when ZZZ Germans weren't acting up) fuels emphasis on valuing the individual (and it's no coincidence, as such, that capitalism, which is generally a good thing, springs from this root).

At this point, which is early modern to modern Europe (1600s - present), the Crusades were over, Europe was relatively preserved from outside invasion after ethnic groups finally formed coherent and powerful enough blocs (although obviously not preventing internal wars) and liberalism (which Christianity, at least Protestant versions, believe it or not, actually influences). A free-times, feel-good Jesus, who just wants everyone to love one another (as opposed to medieval Jesus, who wants to conquer the world - think geography and border security) was allowed to finally flourish.

Not so in the Greater Middle East. And it never will be. Geography has not blessed that part of the world. Open plains and it being the crossroads of three continents leave it constantly vulnerable. As a result, Muslims will have a much, much more difficult time coming into their liberal period (e.g., you disagree with me, therefore I should respect that and not throw battery acid on you) than Christianity ever had or will.

The one hope for the Islamic world is communications and technology, and how they bend time and space, sometimes making geographical realities weaker.

Even so, I'm not so sure it's ever going to work. And Richard Dick Cheney's Great Invasion of the Middle East to enrich himself, his Halliburton partners, and their Iranian partners won't help matters either.

So you want to take the blame off him and put it on "the system". Why don't you just take a missionary trip over there to help these poor Muslims and hopefully you will find it to be wonderful and never want to return to America.
 
It's time to remove the cancer of Islam from American soil. Deport every one of those devils. Islam is here to dominate, not to assimilate. Who is gonna take over our country first ? The Muslims or the Mexicans? Ridiculous. :idea:
 
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I don't why I keep getting deleted but I'm making solid points. The liberals of this thread have come in here and took attention away from the reality of the issue to tell us we need to be more accepting of Islam. That is exactly what they do. The guy posted it was in the name of Islam so the connection is there

No party has the market cornered on patriotism and it's time to stop this red vs. blue BS. :yes:
 
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Out of curiosity, what practical difference do you think it makes for Obama to call it "Jihadist terrorism" or something similar? The man is authorizing bombing and drone strikes like on a daily basis.

If he plays into their hands and pits one religion against another, can't you see that it does nothing to help the situation, and only makes it worse? Its what they want, can't you get that? Do you think that if he utters the magic words, they'll suddenly come to their senses and stop?
Lg, are all Americans, christians? No!
We are Americans under attack. That is the President's job to ensure they, ISIS and any one else that attacks us, understand. Attack one = 300m+.
 
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So, even if ISIS wants to believe that this is a holy war motivated by their religion, they aren't allowed to believe that as long as Obama doesn't actually say the word "Islamic"?

So it's like we're playing one giant game of Simon Says, and ISIS desperately wants to raise their hands, but can't because Obama is never going to say "Simon Says."
 
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So, even if ISIS wants to believe that this is a holy war motivated by their religion, they aren't allowed to believe that as long as Obama doesn't actually say the word "Islamic"?

So it's like we're playing one giant game of Simon Says, and ISIS desperately wants to raise their hands, but can't because Obama is never going to say "Simon Says."

That seems to be what we are being told
 
So you want to take the blame off him and put it on "the system". Why don't you just take a missionary trip over there to help these poor Muslims and hopefully you will find it to be wonderful and never want to return to America.

You okay, bud?

You apparently couldn't answer the questions either.

I know. Anger and frustration are natural reactions. I experience them a lot too.
 
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So, even if ISIS wants to believe that this is a holy war motivated by their religion, they aren't allowed to believe that as long as Obama doesn't actually say the word "Islamic"?

So it's like we're playing one giant game of Simon Says, and ISIS desperately wants to raise their hands, but can't because Obama is never going to say "Simon Says."

Yep. And in one breath we are told it doesn't matter what you label it and in the other we are told if he labels it one particular thing then all hell breaks loose.

:crazy:
 
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I didn't even pay attention to your questions. Here is what I know. Isis wants to wage jihad against America.

That's the straightforward, Donald Trump political answer.

Yes, I agree.

And I was trying to give you a geographical/historical understanding as to why bombing/fighting them will never work.

It's complicated, I admit.

Carry on though. Just please promise not to start bombing Iran too. We've already got enough idiotic Muslims to worry about.
 
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That's the straightforward, Donald Trump political answer.

Yes, I agree.

And I was trying to give you a geographical/historical understanding as to why bombing/fighting them will never work.

It's complicated, I admit.

Carry on though. Just please promise not to start bombing Iran too. We've already got enough idiotic Muslims to worry about.

Israel got that covered..😆
 
Isis dip****. if they have the ability to encourage Muslims to perform these acts on our home soil, that is an act of war. But in your America we all tuck our wiener between our legs and put on the lipstick and hold no one accountable right?

And get courage trophies, don't forget courage trophies.
 
Israel got that covered..😆

Honestly, that's fine with me. Although they've gone through proper channels (while North Korea didn't, and no one even made a peep, despite NK threatening to wipe out SK, Japan, and us) I admit that Iran is no one's ideal of a responsible nuclear weapons state.

But if Israel feels threatened then let Israel take care of it. That's their own business.

As for us, we need to retreat for a little bit, work on our debt/economy, streamline our military, figure out what's most vital to us, and re-learn geopolitics. Then we can sally back forth into the world.

Fine with me. I just want it done rationally and not purely motivated by emotion.
 
SIAP but I don't understand the thought process of saying a serviceman or servicewoman cannot have an issued handgun on their person at all times. I would think this could have helped in many situations of attacks on our military. These men and women are some of the most capable people in the world to handle these situations.
 
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Honestly, that's fine with me. Although they've gone through proper channels (while North Korea didn't, and no one even made a peep, despite NK threatening to wipe out SK, Japan, and us) I admit that Iran is no one's ideal of a responsible nuclear weapons state.

But if Israel feels threatened then let Israel take care of it. That's their own business.

As for us, we need to retreat for a little bit, work on our debt/economy, streamline our military, figure out what's most vital to us, and re-learn geopolitics. Then we can sally back forth into the world.

Fine with me. I just want it done rationally and not purely motivated by emotion.

If you'd post more like this, instead of attacking Christians in every post people would be more reasonable in responding to you. JMO
 
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If you'd post more like this, instead of attacking Christians in every post people would be more reasonable in responding to you. JMO

I don't attack Christians. Asking for sane, rational responses to simple questions, when the inability to answer them leads to mass human misery, is not an attack.

It's a plea for common sense.

I looked like a sheer dick yesterday, but I like to think the world is somehow a slightly better place today, even at my expense.

It's what heroes do.
 
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