Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[Orange_Crush]

Wrong on all counts. This is ********. I'm not even left wing. I am a libertarian who "demonizes" both sides for advocating for state-sponsored political violence. I've been killing Biden and Kamala with criticisms all year, and they're not even in power right now.

What should my priority concern be after condemning the political violence?

Well, obviously it should be choosing to blame the right, as your actions and the post that I quoted confirmed.

Again... You've been here attributing x, y and z to the Magas for years. It seems to have been a worthy endeavor in your mind to make the world a better and safer place. I find it interesting that your last post veered away from correct attribution for the better of the world, and to some pragmatic decision based on the evils of the right--again, in the context of someone being murdered in front of their wife and kids because of the murderous hate in the left fringe.

It seems to me that if one is dangerous enough to be stamped out by stating the truth, then the other would be dangerous enough to be stamped out by stating the truth. But obviously your mileage may vary.


Here's an interesting thought. You replied to this post. You obviously have taken me off of ignore. Is it more interesting to consider the post you replied to, or the ones you haven't? Since you're reading my posts, let's try this again.

Can you please give the best evidence provided that the shooter was a groyper? I think that would greatly further this part of the conversation. Otherwise, you are likely participating in a huge gaslighting, and I am sure you wouldn't want to do that.

 

[n_huffhines]

It's really crazy to me how different America is now compared to even 20 years ago. If this had happened 20 years ago, we would all be united together in solidarity against political violence. Today, I see numerous posts by leftists celebrating, condoning, glorifying, and even calling for more violence against Conservatives/Right-wingers.

Everyone should be asking how we got to this point and what must be done to reverse this trend. Unfortunately, and I hope I'm wrong, I think the country is too far gone. No one in leadership wants to make the changes necessary to meaningfully fix the issues this country is facing. Why? They win votes off of this division. So don't expect any meaningful change.

Those people didn't have a voice 20 years ago. The internet has made you aware of them.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Yup and GOP will come out and condemn him not celebrate

That's the difference. The parties are different ideology, obviously but they differ in how they react. George Floyd is a great example. Riots everywhere, over a drug addicted criminal that held a gun to a woman's pregnant body. Riots that were condoned by democratic politicians. Democrats and republicans are not the same.

 

[NCFisher]

The reason your comparison doesn’t work is the right doesn’t openly support murdering their political opponents to the level the left does. The left always feels justified because they’ll falsely proclaim everyone to be a “fascists”, “Nazi”, “racist”, or in your case you attempted to openly proclaim he opposed equal rights for black people.

But I’d have no issue if anyone on the right was for example supporting the murders in Minnesota, removing them from government jobs.

That's an important distinction in a government that alleges to be representative.
Except the cesspool of congress that can exempt themselves from rules.

 

[Matt2496]

Those people didn't have a voice 20 years ago. The internet has made you aware of them.

I definitely agree that social media has played a huge role in this. It's a slippery slope with all sorts of privacy concerns and issues (thought crimes for example) if the government/Meta/X/etc. were to actually regulate it. There is no easy answer to this.

 

[LadyVolette]

I initially assumed the killer would be transexual.
I'm by no means convinced he was a groyper.

If he was a registered Republican I wouldn't be telling you HAHA HES ONE OF YOURS, and it appears thats what a lot of people are doing, left and right.

If Fuentes isn't one of yours what makes you think its ok to say Tyler is one of LGs? Or Luthers? Or Huffs?

You think they like people getting shot? You think they're all furries with pink hair?

I have to admit I laughed at furries with pink hair I am convinced a lot of people just operate on shock value.. I’m the kind of person who doesn’t enjoy attention so it’s very foreign to me personally

 

[apevol]

Yup and GOP will come out and condemn him not celebrate

is the GOP one person? who?

is matthew Shepherd still burning in hell? is that site up?

the dnc definitely needs to purge itself of anyone celebrating this murder and I agree they haven't distanced themselves enough

 

[apevol]

I have to admit I laughed at furries with pink hair

i absolutely believe we need to start having conversations about transexual violence

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I'm just hoping for the outcome that calms the most tensions and some people in here are wanting things to boil over. They want to have more reason to hate. Far right groyper would be a terrible outcome for them. They need it to be somehow related to trans and the left so that trans kids going to school tomorrow can get harassed and bullied even more than normal. They need it to be the left so they can shame 40m voters, as if they had something to do with this.

Not the case for me….I want leadership on the left to take a stand and say the rhetoric has to stop. We are tired of being called deplorable, homophobic, Nazis, Facist and dumb.

Having politician banter is one thing but to take that banter to the public is wrong. It creates division and divisiveness whcih conservatives believe that is the the strategy of the Democrats. Not to debate us on merits in the arena of free speech but to divide us and marginalize us.

Also, the press has to stop being the mouthpiece of the left. Go back to reporting the news and not be beholding to those of power. I fear that will be a tall task as money is driving that machine.

CK was killed because he was having civil discussions that was having a tremendous impact on many lives. Unfortunately he will not be around to continue that but his message lives and will grow exponentially.

 

[appvol]

Amazing that some Americans want the US government take adverse employment action against a fellow American for expressing her opinion about someone who was not even in the government, let alone the military. Not rejoicing in his death (expressly saying she doesn't condone the violence), just saying she's not going to celebrate the guy in death because he's a racist, which is an opinion that is well-supported (or at least not unsupported). But don't dare call a fascist a fascist.

Good I would bet there is a code of conduct they have to go by

 

[LadyVolette]

i absolutely believe we need to start having conversations about transexual violence

Yep, is it the hormones, is it antidepressants, lack of proper mental health, imagined slights, insecurities, what is it? The one thing they have to realize is that it will probably never be totally embraced and they have to understand that when they go down that road and be monitored closely while doing it. People just ignoring them is a good goal to have..Monitoring then during and after extensive counseling and understanding the consequences needs to occur, and pre-counseling for maybe a year? because frankly it’s dangerous for them and others

 

[apevol]

Yep, is it the hormones, is it antidepressants, lack of proper mental health, imagined slights, insecurities, what is it? The one thing they have to realize is that it will probably never be totally embraced and they have to understand that when they go down that road and be monitored closely because frankly it’s dangerous for them and others

ive been in a relationship with a woman with thyroid problems and the hormone swings are almost untenable. Doing that on purpose is madness

The conversation cannot be one sided though. Trans people are certainly at risk of violence themselves and the conversation cant be "trans people are evil" and everyone has to accept it

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Crazy Tampon Timmy Walz stirring up the hate speech & hoping for violence to come after.

 

[InVOLuntary]

is the GOP one person? who?

is matthew Shepherd still burning in hell? is that site up?

the dnc definitely needs to purge itself of anyone celebrating this murder and I agree they haven't distanced themselves enough

Members of congress are good with this. Maybe start there?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Thanks to the loony left lunatics like Tampon Timmy stirring up the hate speech.

 

[apevol]

Members of congress are good with this. Maybe start there?

if there is anyone in the house or senate saying they are ok with assassination, an investigation by the ethics committee must be opened immediately to initiate their expulsion

 

[appvol]

So we've gone from "guns don't kill people, people kill people," to "guns don't kill people, words kill people."

 

[InVOLuntary]

ive been in a relationship with a woman with thyroid problems and the hormone swings are almost untenable. Doing that on purpose is madness

The conversation cannot be one sided though. Trans people are certainly at risk of violence themselves and the conversation cant be "trans people are evil" and everyone has to accept it

I've asked this question and really never received an answer that makes sense. Why when someone experiences gender dysphoria, the first medical action is to affirm it with surgery and chemicals/drugs. Why not try to fix the mind instead of modifying the body? This is especially teue in children. Gender dysphoria is an illness, whether it be a chemical imbalance or something else.

 

[InVOLuntary]

if there is anyone in the house or senate saying they are ok with assassination, an investigation by the ethics committee must be opened immediately to initiate their expulsion

Go search out Omar's interview.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Good. CNN butthurt that cancel culture is eating their biggest fans alive.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/13/business/charlie-kirk-death-fired-comments

So it's wrong now that conservatives have taken a page out of their book.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

I've asked this question and really never received an answer that makes sense. Why when someone experiences gender dysphoria, the first medical action is to affirm it with surgery and chemicals/drugs. Why not tey to fix the mind instead of modifying the body? This is especially teue in children. Gender dysphoria is an illness, whether it be a chemical imbalance or something else.

Exactly what Charley preached.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[apevol]

I've asked this question and really never received an answer that makes sense. Why when someone experiences gender dysphoria, the first medical action is to affirm it with surgery and chemicals/drugs. Why not tey to fix the mind instead of modifying the body? This is especially teue in children. Gender dysphoria is an illness, whether it be a chemical imbalance or something else.

I know people with PhDs in biology who think its completely insane

I admit my own opinions are clouded by experiences interacting with transexuals. None of those experiences were pleasant but I think most everybody here who knows me can tell you I'm a fairly open minded easy to get along with kind of guy

 

[BartW]

i absolutely believe we need to start having conversations about transexual violence

I agree but I think we still need to be careful about jumping to conclusions here.

It was originally reported that the shooter is trans and hard left, but that was retracted. That the roommate was a trans partner has so far only been reported by Fox News/NYP, and the FBI refused to comment on the report.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Here we go. Democrat moron Crockett is calling for a civil war w/Republicans.