Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

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evillawyer said:
You really don't need to look beyond Nancy Mace for that answer. She was in full "burn em at the stake" mode until she found out he was a nice white boy from a Republican family in rural Utah. Then it was all "I loves me some Jesus and the grace he provides, and I hope this young lad can find it too."
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It really makes you happy that the family was conservative living in rural America and their son was liberal killing a conservative Christian man in front of his family.You can feel your happiness in your post
 
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CubsFanTN said:
All legislation appeals to a moral code, no?
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Possibly, but that doesn't ensure that the legislation is good/fair/Constitutional, as we've seen laws written by "moral" men in our own history, which are completely antithetical to the 'morality' of the religious beliefs they subscribed to.
 
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apevol said:
Not Ali!
Sonny was his mentor for his short time and never fought a sanctioned bout with him
Holmes was the first wave of business smart duckers and never fought Foreman either iirc
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Almost matched up in the late 90’s.

Holmes should have never stepped in the ring with Mike though. He paid dearly for that one.
 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
But not founded to force the values. There's a difference. We were founded on the principle of religious freedom, not on the principle of religious rule
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People who believe that they are called by god to make the United States a 'Christian nation', will never accept that 'freedom from religion' was enshrined in the Constitution, just as much as 'freedom of religion'.
 
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appvol said:
It really makes you happy that the family was conservative living in rural America and their son was liberal killing a conservative Christian man in front of his family.You can feel your happiness in your post
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Am I happy that the killer wasn't a pink-haired transexual from Portland born to a single black/immigrant lesbian mother covered in face tattoos? Yes. Because there would be blood in the streets if that were the case. His background has taken the temperature down decidedly. Even the Utah governor said he had hoped the shooter was an immigrant but that, unfortunately, he was one of their own (meaning a native Utahn). Unbelievable, but clipped below. His background has humanized him to the people who were calling for civil war a day before. I don't see those calls nearly as much now that we know who the shooter is. And that's good for the country. Do you disagree?

 
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BernardKingGOAT said:
But not founded to force the values. There's a difference. We were founded on the principle of religious freedom, not on the principle of religious rule
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"Religious rule"? That is hilarious and sad at the same time. You find that in Islamic countries, but not here.
 
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evillawyer said:
Am I happy that the killer wasn't a pink-haired transexual from Portland born to a single black/immigrant lesbian mother covered in face tattoos? Yes. Because there would be blood in the streets if that were the case. His background has taken the temperature down decidedly. Even the Utah governor said he had hoped the shooter was an immigrant but that, unfortunately, he was one of their own (meaning a native Utahn). Unbelievable, but clipped below. His background has humanized him to the people who were calling for civil war a day before. I don't see those calls nearly as much now that we know who the shooter is. And that's good for the country. Do you disagree?

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Hoping it wasn’t someone from Utah because he wanted to believe people in Utah are better than that. How dare the governor in Utah want to believe in the people he represents!
 
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evillawyer said:
Am I happy that the killer wasn't a pink-haired transexual from Portland born to a single black/immigrant lesbian mother covered in face tattoos? Yes. Because there would be blood in the streets if that were the case. His background has taken the temperature down decidedly. Even the Utah governor said he had hoped the shooter was an immigrant but that, unfortunately, he was one of their own (meaning a native Utahn). Unbelievable, but clipped below. His background has humanized him to the people who were calling for civil war a day before. I don't see those calls nearly as much now that we know who the shooter is. And that's good for the country. Do you disagree?

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I've missed the "blood in the streets" following the 1/2 dozen or so murderous transgender assaults. Can you link those for me?

I don't want to have to just conjure them in my head; that'd be crazy, huh?
 
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McDad said:
Who is the economic elite in this example? Trump?

How are the savings distributed to the ultra wealthy?
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The less taxes they have to pay into the system is how it’s siphoned back up to the ultra wealthy.

Yes the president is apart of that class alongside other wealthy elites.

Dems do it too just not as blatantly.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Possibly, but that doesn't ensure that the legislation good/fair/Constitutional, as we've seen laws written by "moral" men in our own history, which are completely antithetical to the 'morality' of the religious beliefs they subscribed to.
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All men are deeply flawed, Christians get the distinction of being inherently hypocritical because we can never live up to Christ's standards. The most famous book in human history is, in part, a story of the shortcomings of God's chosen people. Do some politicians feign a faith in God to appeal to their constituents? I don't know their hearts but it doesn't seem implausible. But I see no issue with pushing legislation that is based in the correct interpretation of Jesus' teachings and I don't think any Christian should desire to be "left alone" with their faith.
 
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NCFisher said:
I've missed the "blood in the streets" following the 1/2 dozen or so murderous transgender assaults. Can you link those for me?

I don't want to have to just conjure them in my head; that'd be crazy, huh?
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Yes or no, did you notice a drop in vitriol after the shooter's identity and family history were revealed? Just look at Nancy Mace's before and after tweets. We can have a conversation about what factors caused that drop (usually time will also calm people down), but I think any explanation that doesn't include his background and family history as part of the reason is not a good explanation.
 
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Ashevolle said:
Doesn't prove God. Nor does evolution necessarily negate the existence of God. The DNA links between all living things and the incremental evolution that can be observed through experimentation are pretty convincing to me and and a majority of people that evolution is the most sound theory available

So even though there remain unknowns in the world, that doesn't convince me there must be a God. And therefore I dont grant the Bible the distinction of being a work of nonfiction. So what the Bible says is an abomination to God has zero sway over me
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The odds of one minor protein being made randomly is impossible that is why there has to be a designer. Someone has to be a complete arrogant and ignorant fool to think that the complexities of our body was randomly done. So yes your arrogance and ignorance says God has no sway over you, you better hope you're right
 
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CubsFanTN said:
All men are deeply flawed, Christians get the distinction of being inherently hypocritical because we can never live up to Christ's standards. The most famous book in human history is, in part, a story of the shortcomings of God's chosen people. Do some politicians feign a faith in God to appeal to their constituents? I don't know their hearts but it doesn't seem implausible. But I see no issue with pushing legislation that is based in the correct interpretation of Jesus' teachings and I don't think any Christian should desire to be "left alone" with their faith.
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Yes. If you choose to try to legislate your religious beliefs on the nation, you are going to be held to a higher standard.

Pushing your religious beliefs through legislation, while you may feel is an obligation to your religion, is antithetical to the core concepts that the United States was founded on.

To be honest, I don't look it any differently than the muslims that want sharia law.
 
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