Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[McDad]

Not of my own. But two women I
.. know .. each have a son, 28 yo give or take, and they are aimless.

I have 3. None are dealing with those characteristics. The young people in our church who are just starting out and the young people at work with in a professional capacity are not burdened by those things either. I may just hang around a different type of individual but it may also be true that it's not as pervasive as you think it might be

 

[LouderVol]

Covid is/was part of it. Much bigger problem is kids only socialize on line now. Their "friends" play video games with them.

blame the parents.

child is bored? shove a screen in their face.
need 15 minutes of quiet? shove a screen in their face.
have actual quality conversations or family time? shove a screen in their face.

 

[LSU-SIU]

That may be one of the stupidest post I have ever read.

It wouldn't sound stupid if you were sane Mr. Chicken.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

A big part of the problem is all the fake paths that have been created. Get a degree in some made up topic like diversity studies and then expect to be able to support yourself?

That's a fringe group

 

[CobbVol]

Charlie Kirk - A Christian, Republican activist, and Trump supporter. That is why the leftist and their sponsored media have been in full out assault to bring him down. He is like a 3-legged impala on the African plains for theses TDS lunatics.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

“People have obviously pointed to the irony that … the point that I was trying to make is how peaceful the left was right before he [Kirk] got shot,” an emotional Kozak said in the clip played on CNN. “And that, that only makes sense if we stay peaceful. And as much as I disagree with Charlie Kirk — I‘m on the record for how much I disagree with Charlie Kirk — but like, man, dude, he is still a human being. Have we forgotten that? Are we crazy?”

Student Who Debated Charlie Kirk Moments Before Assassination Speaks Out

The Utah Valley University (UVU) student who was debating Turning Point USA (TPUSA) founder Charlie Kirk when Kirk was assassinated spoke out Thursday on CNN.

dailycaller.com

 

[CubsFanTN]

Yea….

OK. 100% of the population thinks those men deserve life in prison, death, or a punishment equivocal to their actions. 50% of the population thinks Tyler Robinson is a hero, or at the very least justified in his actions. There's the divide.

 

[GVF]

White, black, GOP, Dem .... its more a generational issue to me than anything else. Young people now face such uncertain futures. The paths we all had just aren't as realistic as they were just 20 years ago. I feel for the 18 to 30 year olds now. No solid, known, way to have a life and succeed.

That's just play by play.

My kid and his girlfiend both work and put themselves thru college. Mine works, does his studies and pays $800 a month on what his subsidized don't cover. Didn't ask for help to go, and won't accept it. She's same way. One is 22, one is 19. One a Bio Chem Major. One a Pre-Vet Major. Go to church together on their own accord. I have every confidence 2 determined kids with work ethics, aspirations, and apparently a very deep connection, will be more than capapble of making parents prouder than they already are. Rarely go out to eat and waste money even if they had it to burn. They cook at home together either at our house or hers. And he leaves me an accasional fresh sourdough loaf, so who am I to be partisan.

side bar: Maybe your two friends should hook their 28yo kids up with my 22yo and his 19yo gf and see what makes them tick and how they got there. Cause with their generation I ain't got a clue how I got that dang fortunate with him or the only girl to ever break his neck turning around to look at her.

 

[McDad]

I comprehend the words of this tweet. But I don't understand what the Tweeter is getting it. Can you translate?

 

[StarRaider]

That's debatable... even Google AI is split on whether she was good or bad.

montel williams and willie brown musta thought kommie-la was good

 

[StarRaider]

I comprehend the words of this tweet. But I don't understand what the Tweeter is getting it. Can you translate?

RoofKorean7? the scope placement on a kicking 30-06 rifle would have knocked the snot out of the pos assassin when the rifle was fired

if MajToure999: He does not find it plausible that the pos assassin was able to do all of that.

 

[itsme]

My buddy teaches at Utah Tech where Tyler Robinson did concurrent enrollment in HS. He got the scoop from an email the president sent to everybody. After HS, the kid went to one semester at Utah State (both of these are relatively conservative schools) and dropped out, then went to trade school.

I would say there is a very low chance the "radicalized by liberal university experience" theory is correct.

So he received education from Utah Tech from 2019-2021 2 1/2 years, correct? Acting like he didn't have enough time to be radicalized from this institution is 100% false.

 

[KB5252]

Yea….

Seems like you've gone a significant distance back in time and completely ignored some pretty high profile examples......... Wonder why?

 

[McDad]

That's just play by play.

My kid and his girlfiend both work and put themselves thru college. Mine works, does his studies and pays $800 a month on what his subsidized don't cover. Didn't ask for help to go, and won't accept it. She's same way. One is 22, one is 19. One a Bio Chem Major. One a Pre-Vet Major. Go to church together on their own accord. I have every confidence 2 determined kids with work ethics, aspirations, and apparently a very deep connection, will be more than capapble of making parents prouder than they already are. Rarely go out to eat and waste money even if they had it to burn. They cook at home together either at our house or hers. And he leaves me an accasional fresh sourdough loaf, so who am I to be partisan.

side bar: Maybe your two friends should hook their 28yo kids up with my 22yo and his 19yo gf and see what makes them tick and how they got there. Cause with their generation I ain't got a clue how I got that dang fortunate with him or the only girl to ever break his neck turning around to look at her.

That's interesting, all three of mine prefer eating at home as well.

 

[Matt2496]

I listened to a podcast about this, it went over a bunch of differences. I don't remember the exact numbers so I will try to avoid them.

Controlling for inflation and wage growth:
the cost of buying a house has gone up 2x, even with a lower interest rate, the amount of interest paid has gone up 4x or 5x. They also brought up that many of our parents still had a generational home some of them could live in and take over, now days that percentage is much much lower.

and even beyond the cost, getting approved for a loan has gotten ridiculous, where you end up with situations where even if you could afford the loan, you can't get it. The banks don't care that you have paid $2,000 dollars a month for 5 years of rent; they think we can't handle $1,500 loan payments. its counterintuitive.

there are far more added costs this generation pays that the previous never had to pay for, health insurance being a big one, but even phone/internet is a completely new phenomena the previous generation didn't have to account for until they were older and established.

I can't remember the percentage but the amount of "unspent" money that hits our bank accounts are a lot smaller now.

and a lot of the soft skills haven't been passed on that could help. growing your own food, its easier to pay less on food if you grow it yourself, our generation was never taught that. same thing with making or repairing clothes, or other small household items. with chips in everything there isn't any real way to "fix" most problems. this is a lot of the reason the "trad" life style is becoming a thing, even on SM. its an almost completely lost skill set, because it pretty much skipped a generation or two, and its not something any of us grew up with.

even in the job market the expectations have risen considerably. on the job training is not a thing any more. There isn't a mindset of you can come in and prove yourself. you can't get any professional job without a degree, and even being a manager at a store requires a level of education that most of our parents never had.

This is 100% true. I would also add that getting a "real" job these days is an extreme uphill battle. You are fighting AI algorithms that will just throw out your resume. About the only way to get a job nowadays it know someone who works at the company you are applying at. Not a problem for those already established. Unfortunately, most starting out don't get that luxury.

Nepotism is still a very real thing. Let's say the boss's niece applies to the same job as you. You have 10 years of experience; she has zero. Well tough luck I suppose.

So younger people have to fight AI, in addition to everything else, just to get a decent job. The engineering job market is especially saturated. Too few jobs, Too many college grads. This is another reason why the trades are so much more attractive these days. There's always high demand for plumbers, electricians, welders, etc.

 

[Grand Vol]

The Epstein thing. The recent interview with Rogan did not instill confidence.

Him live tweeting bad info about the assassination on Tuesday was extremely stupid.

I don't have a strong opinion of him, but I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he's on top of anything.

I haven't watched that episode of Rogan yet, but seems like I should.

I did say the Tweets were not smart. Again, the info he released was correct, but I agree more info was needed before sending out that info.

My opinion is he's a lot like many in Trump's Cabinet. Outsiders with the chance to look at things way differently than anyone has before and make changes as needed. Washington insiders didn't help him pick his cabinet, he did that.

Regardless, I don't think Patel is going to do any worse job that Wray or Comey or Mueller. Hell, might even do better and bring the FBI and other federal LEO Agencies back into a non-political position. Which is where they need to be.

 

[Majors]

If I had just lost a close friend to an assassination and was in mourning, I can guarantee you I wouldn't be doing the two fisted circle jerk dance at a baseball game.

You guys don't realize how far you've let this man warp your norms.

He’s not your landlord…he’s POTUS. You seem to forget 9/11 is a pretty big deal, especially for those in NYC.

 

[McDad]

RoofKorean7? the scope placement on a kicking 30-06 rifle would have knocked the snot out of the pos assassin when the rifle was fired

Ok. Ty

 

[KB5252]

This event underscores the importance of "touching grass" so to speak. It appears that COVID is at least one of the catalysts for a lot of the issues we are seeing today. Why? People, especially the younger generations, simply aren't associating with each other like they used to. People are spending too much time online in their own "safe spaces", inundated with only 1 political viewpoint. Therefore, many have lost the ability to see more than someone's political view or to even find common ground. The assassin is 22 years old, therefore he would have been 17-18 years old when COVID struck and lockdown isolation occurred. In my opinion, these are some of the most important years of someone's life.

Human interaction, socialization, friendship, etc are some of the most basic human needs. Yet often times these needs are not being met currently, causing people to resort to online discussions and interaction as a substitute. Social Media is simply not a substitute for real, face-to-face human interaction.

That said, social media in moderation and in conjunction with real friendship is fine. Taken to the extreme though, it can lead to radicalization.

There are other factors too obviously, but just thought I would mention one that hasn't really been talked about much.

I will add to this the lack of emotional maturity, particularly in younger people often allow them to spiral and go down the rabbit hole of misinformation and accounts that specifically seek to stroke confirmation bias. This leads going people to believe they've come into some great awakening.

 

[82_VOL_83]

“People have obviously pointed to the irony that … the point that I was trying to make is how peaceful the left was right before he [Kirk] got shot,” an emotional Kozak said in the clip played on CNN. “And that, that only makes sense if we stay peaceful. And as much as I disagree with Charlie Kirk — I‘m on the record for how much I disagree with Charlie Kirk — but like, man, dude, he is still a human being. Have we forgotten that? Are we crazy?”

Student Who Debated Charlie Kirk Moments Before Assassination Speaks Out

The Utah Valley University (UVU) student who was debating Turning Point USA (TPUSA) founder Charlie Kirk when Kirk was assassinated spoke out Thursday on CNN.

dailycaller.com

They should grill the hell out of that guy as an accomplice.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Charlie Kirk was deeply racist.

 

[05_never_again]

I have 3. None are dealing with those characteristics. The young people in our church who are just starting out and the young people at work with in a professional capacity are not burdened by those things either. I may just hang around a different type of individual but it may also be true that it's not as pervasive as you think it might be

Purely anecdotal, but I've found that a person's relationship with their parents have a pretty big impact on their kids' politics. It isn't true in 100% of cases, or even 75% of cases, but I think you are more likely to have political beliefs opposite those of your parents if you have a bad or complicated relationship with them. Bonus points if your parents were very political people and were overbearing in making those beliefs known. The old classic cliche of the child rebelling against the parent.

If a kid has a poor relationship with their parents, they are probably more likely to seek out experiences (where that's college, moving to a new city, etc.) where they will be exposed to things that the parents disapprove of.

 

[Vol8188]

That's not my point. Yes, they had a suspect in custody, but was he the guy? In such a highly sensitive situation with a tragic assassination, there isn't a need to stir the public without certainty. His identity was leaked too.

So yes, we can absolutely disagree, but hey I guess it was important that a nurse in East Texas knew they had a suspect

So a suspect was in custody. He stated they had a suspect in custody and that really incompetent?

Suspects aren’t always guilty. If he said “we got him!” I would agree that’s incompetence

 

[Grand Vol]

Purely anecdotal, but I've found that a person's relationship with their parents have a pretty big impact on their kids' politics. It isn't true in 100% of cases, or even 75% of cases, but I think you are more likely to have political beliefs opposite those of your parents if you have a bad or complicated relationship with them. Bonus points if your parents were very political people and were overbearing in making those beliefs known. The old classic cliche of the child rebelling against the parent.

If a kid has a poor relationship with their parents, they are probably more likely to seek out experiences (where that's college, moving to a new city, etc.) where they will be exposed to things that the parents disapprove of.

I'm not sure you should be asking @McDad about parental advice. I mean, he did abandon his daughter at a rest stop on vacation...

 

[CagleMtnVol]

So are the trans people of America gonna get their apology or nah?

For having mental health issues?