Charlie Kirk Shot and killed

[MAD]

What is happening in GAZA is also at the beheast of their own actions that incited the retaliation. It's simple. Stop trying to wipe Jews off the face of the earth and they will not retaliate.

Lots of otherwise reasonable liberals now think of Zionism as basically akin to Nazism. It shows the propaganda is working on them.

The highly funded student “Free Palestine” movement is what’s contributing to the violence and hate we are seeing in America.

It’s about silencing, and using buzzwords whose meaning isn't well understood by those using them.

 

[luthervol]

**** you...me and a lot of others are about ready to start shooting back...

Come out and play

Steve Bannon is giggling. Most thought him a fool for viewing the American public as so incredibly gullible.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Kinda like your party that's been using Nazi tactics for the past 8 years?

Modern left liberals have far more in common with Nazi ideology than Trump ever thought of having.

Yep...who is assaulting and killing who? The left is pure evil and I am absolutely sick of talking to them...sooo let's get on with it and roll the iron dice and see who comes out on top.

Cowards just like to run their ***** mouths.

 

[appvol]

Not helpful.

Yes it is. I texted my son yesterday who is 21 when it happened and told him you realize how evil democrats are now. He I know and they have been for awhile

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I thought EL got ban-hammered. No, just disappeared for a while after the election.

Frankly, if one steps back from the stupid takes she posts and thinks about it, I think it is just trolling. Trying to get engagement. I confess when I have, I come away from it thinking why in the hell did I give her what she wants? If trolling really is her game, I pity her for whatever she lacks in her life to need this.

The only person I have ever put on ignore. I have never once regretted that decision, or clicked on the little prompt to see what she posted. She brings absolutely nothing to this site but trolling and fake memes she made at home that arent even clever...because the Left cannot meme.

 

[Tman44]

Yes, the left (at least some of them demonstrably so) do want us dead.
I read “act accordingly” as “be careful”. If someone is out to get you, acting accordingly means making it difficult for them to do so.

It does not amaze me that with all of the evidence of the left celebrating Kirk's death, the leftists on this forum refuse to accept reality. This is the problem with engaging the left in discourse, they are not honest people and will lie all day long in order to advance their agenda. The left loses on ideas, so they resort to violence. Then we have the number one play in the left's playbook... projection. Leftists claim that their political opponents are guilty of the very things that they do. It is fun to poke at them, but if you are only fooling yourself if you believe they will ever engage in logical or reasonable conversation.

 

[LouderVol]

And @LouderVol
What is your sociopath testing, and do non-violents have a 2A right?

Are we asserting murderers are pretty uniformly violent sociopaths? If not, what is the pre-crime testing to keep guns from those who'll misuse them?

no idea, I was pointing out the flaws in his point.

I am generally against anything that makes second class citizens out of anyone, or restricts the rights of all.

most of the time those pushing these "extra" measures have no clue about what they are talking about, and these are some simple questions they need to answer.

 

[volinbham]

Would you be receptive to an opinion that those making those claims are very fringe and those are not being adopted as factual by our society?

I would if it weren't for actual adoption of policies by orgs, academic institutions, and perpetuation by media that those fringe ideas are legit.

Maybe the adoption was out of fear of offending the fringe or maybe it was concurrence with the ideas but for some reason these fringe ideas gained real power over the last 5+ years. It does appear that the majority is finally pushing back.

 

[ETV]

Yeah, so you jump all over people that don't bother you but you feel sorry for? It's hard to believe, but if that's true, there's something wrong with you.

Jump all over you? If you don’t like the water, get out of the pool.

 

[RockyTop411]

Yes, my thoughts too. If you want to get your message out there, but still get away, you'd leave the gun on the roof. Taking it with just makes the shooter easier to identify.

Why did you disappear on election night as the results started coming in?

 

[n_huffhines]

Dear God you are dumber than chit.

Miss me with the semantics of "jump all over."

Whatever you call this, this doesn't appear like you feel sorry for me. It appears you are bothered by me.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Kinda like your party that's been using Nazi tactics for the past 8 years?

Modern left liberals have far more in common with Nazi ideology than Trump ever thought of having.

And FWIW; it is not the Republican Party swarming college campuses accosting Jewish students and calling for the end of the Jewish state. The keffiyeh of 2025 is the brown shirt of 1938.

 

[lawgator1]

Yes it is. I texted my son yesterday who is 21 when it happened and told him you realize how evil democrats are now. He I know and they have been for awhile

I left the party last year but dont consider myself evil and the Dems I know are not evil.

 

[McDad]

Kirk advocated for violence against innocent Palestinians...

I don't know the man. I don't follow his events or his socials. But based on what his supporters and his opponents have shared here, I do not believe this is accurate. I think it is opinion based in fact. I suspect he actually advocated for protecting innocent Israelis. The mechanism or protection may be similar or the same as the mechanism of violence, but the perspective of the man should be considered.

Examples to illustrate:
a vote for trump does not mean advocating for his presidency. For some, it was a vote against Harris.
a firearm can be seen as a of protection and a tool of defense depending on the intention of the person involved.

 

[CubsFanTN]

No one has to be brainwashed. Each is free to do as they choose. It’s just a reminder that you can’t say that and then claim to have any interest in Jesus tree teachings. People are free to say they don’t care about Jesus

As a Christ follower what should my level of concern be for foreign affairs where no outcome is indicative of a universally positive outcome? Should I simply feel empathy for innocent lives lost (which I do) or should I take a definitive position on who is right and wrong? Should I keep it to myself or share my thoughts with others.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I left the party last year but dont consider myself evil and the Dems I know are not evil.

Really...I bet you don't

 

[BeardedVol]

Like Charlie, I'm trying to engage you with a conversation. I asked a simple question and you ignored it, preferring to take this conversation in your own direction. It shows you're not interested in listening thus you're not worth my time

We've established that we disagree that violence/hate is more prominent on the left than the right. Fine. I tried to advance the discussion beyond that and you'll have none of it. I'm not surprised. Carry on

Emulating Kirk's "gotcha" debate style is not very affective when not used against unprepared college students, but feel free to substantiate your statement "far more on the left", since your entire argument is predicated on that belief, you can't just walk away from it.

 

[GameTime]

I never met Charlie Kirk, but I still knew him....He was a good man that only gave conversation to people....He listened to the other side at his meetings and didn't harm anyone....Now some evil SOB put a bullet in him.

Like so many of you guys, I'm so damn sick of the left..

 

[LSU-SIU]

I left the party last year but dont consider myself evil and the Dems I know are not evil.

No, last year you came out here and pretended you hadn't been voting for these people in "many cycles", now you are framing a new lie based on the old lie.

 

[Grand Vol]

I'm nearly 100% sure CK was wearing a vest. Headshot would be needed.

And, no, it's not a hard shot.

I could almost guarantee he wasn't wearing a level 4 rated vest. It would have been pretty obvious. At best, it's a IIIA vest which isn't going to stop rifle rounds.

You're right it's not a hard shot for folks that shoot and know ballistics and marksman, but too many factors here that add up to "didn't know that" before pulling the trigger. You take the winds, elevation, drop and add in the inherent non sub MOA accuracy of hunting rifles (they said imported so, likely a Tika or Howa) and you can see why a shot is off target.

Poor shot for someone who knows, lucky shot for someone with basic knowledge of shooting.

 

[YankeeVol]

Miss me with the semantics of "jump all over."

Whatever you call this, this doesn't appear like you feel sorry for me. It appears you are bothered by me.

I'm the one bothered? Here you go little buddy.

 

[GVF]

In a broad brush sense we don’t agree on the bolded. I do agree with Jesus as an example. I offered up Tucker Carlson as an example. We have the receipts that even he didn’t believe what he was saying on Trump and the election. Howard Stern is another polarizing example that doesn’t speak “the truth”. He’s just going for shock value. He is after all the shock jock.

Maybe polarizing can be better termed as someone who is not a sheep in the flock. Whether for good or for bad.

Example. I'd say King was polarizing. For good reasons. Would not say Sharpton or Jackson were/are. They are sheep that won't get outside the flock.

 

[YankeeVol]

I could almost guarantee he wasn't wearing a level 4 rated vest. It would have been pretty obvious. At best, it's a IIIA vest which isn't going to stop rifle rounds.

You're right it's not a hard shot for folks that shoot and know ballistics and marksman, but too many factors here that add up to "didn't know that" before pulling the trigger. You take the winds, elevation, drop and add in the inherent non sub MOA accuracy of hunting rifles (they said imported so, likely a Tika or Howa) and you can see why a shot is off target.

Poor shot for someone who knows, lucky shot for someone with basic knowledge of shooting.

I think it was a Mauser (per a leaked email supposedly).

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

I'd argue Rice's era was the closing of an era when Democrats and Republicans could still agree on core issues of the country and the value of being American. This is no longer that era.

Even then her blackness was often called into question by the left.

He asked about the last 25 years, but I see you couldn't help yourself with that last comment

 

[marcusluvsvols]

That eulogy from Vance is incredible, powerful, and honestly difficult to read. What a sad, sad time.

Yessir. Poignant and beautiful . I sent it to my son and daughter this morning.