Chaney - uses his playmakers ?

[Vol_fan_in_Tampa]

Yea bc against bad teams Bray was throwing bombs...
Check the stats against the good teams we played that year... we couldn’t really run tge ball...

Chaney is average at best. Who couldn’t coach those players? Against UF Bray looked bad... oline sucked, and couldn’t run the ball..

It’s bc Chaney is too predictable and the D knows what’s comimg... imo

Man I get that you're mad about Chaney but at least three other people have already pointed out critcal flaws in your argument.

Chaney used Bray and play calls to flat out roast David Amerson at NC State. He was a Heisman candidate and the top corner in the nation before we played them in the chick fil a game. Amerson got owned by Chaney. Don't forget he makes the play calls. He torched him inside and out.

Even this year, Chaney is making good calls on plays. Some are predictable but its tough to make calls for different plays when your QB is not executing the ones you are calling currently. At times JG has held the ball way too long, other times he panics and throws off his back foot causing the ball to sail. OR he has played like David Carr for the raiders who seemingly will only throw to a flat out open WR. JG also doesnt seem to take any shots over the middle. so flats and go routes are your options. I would love to see more screens as I think we could get some mileage from them, but you have to stretch the field a little more and that requires more than a couple productive pass routes.

When youre regularly sitting at 3rd and long its tough to make creative play calls.

My point is a lot of the calls are pretty sound but come down to execution.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Chaney is the least of our problems

 

[DaddyChad]

When you have JG distributing the ball to your playmakers, you don’t have any playmakers. Say what you want but Chaney has been an excellent OC at just about every stop before. He has traded up mostly in salary and program for the most part. Our offense sucks but I think there’s more to it than Chaney.

 

[volsrock09]

When OC Chaney was here at TN before with Coach Dooley, they were able to recruit Cordarelle Patterson, a multi-talented WR and return specialist, from a Juco.

As we recall, Patterson stayed for a year then went pro. He’s now tied the record of most TDs from kick returns in the NFL ever.

That season for TN, Patterson only had 4 punt returns, 12 kick returns, and 800 yards of receiving. So Guru Chaney got very little production from a future NFL hall of famer.

I don’t think Chaney was a very good OC then, and he’s even worse now bc the game is evolving and he’s not.

That year Patterson only caught 3 passes a game.
That’s pitiful! I don’t card if Patterson knew zero plays or couldn’t run a route! Surely he could run a quick slant or a go route.

Patterson is an absolute freak of nature.... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy as tall and big as him
with that kind of blazing speed and crazy cutting ability....

Dooley and Chaney committed absolutely criminal offensive and special teams game plans to not involve him more.....

Chaney needs to hit the road imo..

First off, IF he went to the Hall of Fame, it would be as a returner and not a WR.

2012, Offense was definitely not the problem. In fact, UT scored over the average of every Defenses PPG they gave up that they played except Vandy (they were giving up 18.7 p/g and UT scored 18) and Vandy was the 5th best Defense in the SEC that year. Its not like UT didnt play scrubs on D every game, they played 5 of the top 6 defenses in the SEC (6 of the top 8 if you want to go further).

As far as CP goes, they got the ball in his hands in almost every way possible. 46 Rec for 778 Yds and 5 TDs, 25 Rushes for 308 yds and 3Tds. He also had a throw for 28 yds. For a total of 72 plays and 1,114 yds just on offense. For the stats that Chaney wasn't a part of (Charlie Coiner was ST coach). CP had 24 KRs (not 12 and I assume you looked at games played rather than returns) for 671 yds and 1 TD, while 4 PRs for 101 yds and 1 TD. So CP just by himself accounted for 100 plays, 1,886 yds and 10 TDs. You can say a lot about the 2012 team, but getting CP involved was not the issue.

I did see where you said they could not run the ball against UF, but UF had the 4th or 5th best run D in the country. Add that in with a defense that couldn't stop my 4 YO daughter from running around them and you get the reason why they had to pass as much as they did. They had to just to keep up. If UTs O faltered more than 2 or 3 drives, that game was almost a guaranteed loss.

 

[sjt18]

When OC Chaney was here at TN before with Coach Dooley, they were able to recruit Cordarelle Patterson, a multi-talented WR and return specialist, from a Juco.

As we recall, Patterson stayed for a year then went pro. He’s now tied the record of most TDs from kick returns in the NFL ever.

That season for TN, Patterson only had 4 punt returns, 12 kick returns, and 800 yards of receiving. So Guru Chaney got very little production from a future NFL hall of famer.

I don’t think Chaney was a very good OC then, and he’s even worse now bc the game is evolving and he’s not.

That year Patterson only caught 3 passes a game.
That’s pitiful! I don’t card if Patterson knew zero plays or couldn’t run a route! Surely he could run a quick slant or a go route.

Patterson is an absolute freak of nature.... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy as tall and big as him
with that kind of blazing speed and crazy cutting ability....

Dooley and Chaney committed absolutely criminal offensive and special teams game plans to not involve him more.....

Chaney needs to hit the road imo..

Blaming Chaney for what's happening with this O is like blaming a train conductor for the Holocaust. Patterson had 778 yards on the same team as Hunter with over 1000 and Rivera with over 500. That's a pretty good use of "playmakers". That O produced over 36 ppg and 475 ypg. You probably have to go back to the early 2000's or 1990's to find that kind of production.

But... Dooley let Chaney play his QB. A gun slinger who threw the ball to EVERYONE. He let him create an offensive strategy that started with the OL becoming good at Pass Protection first.... one thing at a time starting with the high reward potential. You are seeing nothing more or less than Pruitt's football philosophy and HIS choice of players starting at QB.

Dooley's big mistake was hiring Sunseri and trying to convert to the 3-4 without the personnel you need to run that scheme. Even a mediocre DC that wasn't trying to convert the D scheme would have held opponents to an average in the mid-20's. UT likely would have won 8 or 9 games and saved Dooley for at least another year. For good or ill, that's not how it worked out. He did something stupid and paid the price.

 

[brubaker]

I think Chaney is handcuffed by his QB and head coach... As far as CP.. My gosh 800 yrs receiving was a great year. I was in Atlanta when he almost single-handedly tore up NC St.. I miss that year with Bray, CP, JH... This year I would scream at Chaney for his play calling, but now I think he is restricted so much...

 

[livefaith]

Correct. Patterson may have been most successful in the pros, but he wasn't close to the best offensive player on those UT teams back then. I also get the impression he isn't so smart.

He and Bray were the best we had during his lone season. Hunter and Rivera were good to. We had a sick pass game. Can't imagine what it would have been if DaRick hadnt been let go.

 

[rikberry31]

When OC Chaney was here at TN before with Coach Dooley, they were able to recruit Cordarelle Patterson, a multi-talented WR and return specialist, from a Juco.

As we recall, Patterson stayed for a year then went pro. He’s now tied the record of most TDs from kick returns in the NFL ever.

That season for TN, Patterson only had 4 punt returns, 12 kick returns, and 800 yards of receiving. So Guru Chaney got very little production from a future NFL hall of famer.

I don’t think Chaney was a very good OC then, and he’s even worse now bc the game is evolving and he’s not.

That year Patterson only caught 3 passes a game.
That’s pitiful! I don’t card if Patterson knew zero plays or couldn’t run a route! Surely he could run a quick slant or a go route.

Patterson is an absolute freak of nature.... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy as tall and big as him
with that kind of blazing speed and crazy cutting ability....

Dooley and Chaney committed absolutely criminal offensive and special teams game plans to not involve him more.....

Chaney needs to hit the road imo..

Patterson while a freak athlete really had no concept of the offense and he ran terrible routes. Even in the NFL he is not really use as a reciever.

 

[Jax_Vol]

Patterson is a nice guy, but on fourth team in last five years. Not really a receiver.

Great kick returner.

Not HOF

 

[northknoxvol]

Cornbread is so focused on Defense that he hasnt recruited any playmakers on offense..........seriously name 1 playmaker that is Pruitts guy!

 

[JoAllan]

Tennessee has gotten 4 touchdowns over the past 14 quarters.........they ain’t getting the ball to anyone.

 

[MurphyVol]

When OC Chaney was here at TN before with Coach Dooley, they were able to recruit Cordarelle Patterson, a multi-talented WR and return specialist, from a Juco.

As we recall, Patterson stayed for a year then went pro. He’s now tied the record of most TDs from kick returns in the NFL ever.

That season for TN, Patterson only had 4 punt returns, 12 kick returns, and 800 yards of receiving. So Guru Chaney got very little production from a future NFL hall of famer.

I don’t think Chaney was a very good OC then, and he’s even worse now bc the game is evolving and he’s not.

That year Patterson only caught 3 passes a game.
That’s pitiful! I don’t card if Patterson knew zero plays or couldn’t run a route! Surely he could run a quick slant or a go route.

Patterson is an absolute freak of nature.... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy as tall and big as him
with that kind of blazing speed and crazy cutting ability....

Dooley and Chaney committed absolutely criminal offensive and special teams game plans to not involve him more.....

Chaney needs to hit the road imo..

The last 3 seasons he's averaged about 4 touches per game. That's rushing and receiving combined. After 8 years in the NFL he still hasn't figured out how to play WR and he's really just a career special teamer that only gets a few end arounds and simple pass plays here and there.

To have gotten patterson 700 rec yards in a year when Hunter had 1,000, and Zach Rogers and Rivera each had 500 was pretty good distribution.

Patterson also had 300 rushing yards in a year when Neal/Lane combined for 1400 yards @ 5 ypc, again was also pretty good distribution.

So, for a guy that was raw talent, a poor route runner at receiver and not really built for a full time running back I think it was pretty solid work for the Vols to get 1,086 combined yards out of CP when there wasn't really a lot of balls to go around.

You'll rarely (actually probably never) hear me say anything good about Dooley's time, but I think he and Chaney pretty much maximized CP on offense that season.

Now if he was underutilized in special teams that's not really Chaney's fault.

I do show him having 24 kick returns which was by far the most in the team (second most was 8). He only had 4 punt returns, and I can't say for sure but it seems like there was a ball security issue, could be wrong though.

So, if you throw in special teams we got 1,858 combined yards out if him and we had him take snaps at multiple WR spots, RB, QB/wildcat and he played some at both return spots.

 

[Steve_Smith89]

When OC Chaney was here at TN before with Coach Dooley, they were able to recruit Cordarelle Patterson, a multi-talented WR and return specialist, from a Juco.

As we recall, Patterson stayed for a year then went pro. He’s now tied the record of most TDs from kick returns in the NFL ever.

That season for TN, Patterson only had 4 punt returns, 12 kick returns, and 800 yards of receiving. So Guru Chaney got very little production from a future NFL hall of famer.

I don’t think Chaney was a very good OC then, and he’s even worse now bc the game is evolving and he’s not.

That year Patterson only caught 3 passes a game.
That’s pitiful! I don’t card if Patterson knew zero plays or couldn’t run a route! Surely he could run a quick slant or a go route.

Patterson is an absolute freak of nature.... I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy as tall and big as him
with that kind of blazing speed and crazy cutting ability....

Dooley and Chaney committed absolutely criminal offensive and special teams game plans to not involve him more.....

Chaney needs to hit the road imo..

Patterson is never making the NFL hall of fame, what you smokin on?

But yes I agree about Chaney. Gives me Butch vibes... similar to how he wasted Alvin Kamara’s entire college career by benching him for a WR

 

[UTK]

Chaney went as far as getting Patterson snaps at running back. He did a great job of getting him touches guy.

This. Don't look at how many "catches" he had. The dude isn't a good WR. Period. Not even in the NFL. He's just explosive with the ball in his hands. CP got tons of touches while playing here. The lack of kickoffs and punt returns are due to the lack of coverage.

 

[thehill98]

The last 3 seasons he's averaged about 4 touches per game. That's rushing and receiving combined. After 8 years in the NFL he still hasn't figured out how to play WR and he's really just a career special teamer that only gets a few end arounds and simple pass plays here and there.

To have gotten patterson 700 rec yards in a year when Hunter had 1,000, and Zach Rogers and Rivera each had 500 was pretty good distribution.

Patterson also had 300 rushing yards in a year when Neal/Lane combined for 1400 yards @ 5 ypc, again was also pretty good distribution.

So, for a guy that was raw talent, a poor route runner at receiver and not really built for a full time running back I think it was pretty solid work for the Vols to get 1,086 combined yards out of CP when there wasn't really a lot of balls to go around.

You'll rarely (actually probably never) hear me say anything good about Dooley's time, but I think he and Chaney pretty much maximized CP on offense that season.

Now if he was underutilized in special teams that's not really Chaney's fault.

I do show him having 24 kick returns which was by far the most in the team (second most was 8). He only had 4 punt returns, and I can't say for sure but it seems like there was a ball security issue, could be wrong though.

So, if you throw in special teams we got 1,858 combined yards out if him and we had him take snaps at multiple WR spots, RB, QB/wildcat and he played some at both return spots.

Other teams didn’t have to punt very much that year.